Modern Relationships and Lindsey Clancy Case. 3 Children Strangled. Overwhelming Support From Females and Male Backlash.

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The post by @_emergent_counters a claim that male interest in the Lindsay Clancy case is a "gotcha" moment against women, arguing that some female defenders revealed flawed views by equating common postpartum depression (PPD) with rare postpartum psychosis.
Defense experts claimed psychosis and command hallucinations, but prosecution medical witnesses testified Clancy showed no signs of psychosis—only depression—and was not diagnosed with it, underscoring the conditions' key differences in severity and rarity.



You proved that point by conflating PPD and Postpartum Psychosis. They're not the same thing, no matter how much your TikTok friends said they are.

The latter is very rare, she was not diagnosed with it, and the experts testified that she didn't have it.



 
@Bible_Locket @JohnDB I would like to see your responses to Lindsay Clancy's lawyer defending her ex-husband Patrick Clancy.
Her lawyer Reddington....
Special piece of work....a huge over inflated ego who loves seeing his name in the news.

The substance of his comments? I dont buy it for a minute. Mostly because he is a lawyer with a legal imperative to defend his clients. So press statements can be outrageous lies....zero recriminations.
What he says under oath in court? Whole different thing. But he wont be in that position will he?

So....let's see what happens in court....

The prosecution gets a second crack at this....new jury. (The Last jury was pretty much nuts....all of them)
 
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There are no snide comments in what I said. No you do not know if the husband is guilty or not, but you sure can get out the crystal ball and pretend you do...now that is possibly a snide comment. I am more than a little fed up with people who LOOK for a way to one up others on this forum. Your comment about me being snide is exactly the kind of thing I mean.

You KNOW do you that the husband is not being completely transparent? And you KNOW the investigation was incomplete? Well seriously Mr Holmes do tell us more.

Three children are more than dead...they were brutally murdered...face down....with purpose and intent. And you DO NOT KNOW but you sure have alot to say about the husband...but you DO NOT KNOW. That is called conspiracy and for some reason you had to get on here and tell us all about your personal thoughts. I have stuck to the facts and most of my posts have been about the rotten attitude of the op who has no respect for women whatsoever. I would actually look up and read your sources because that is who I am...I don't go shooting in all directions and proclaiming things I do not know. I would read the 'evidence' and make up my own mind.

Pray tell....where is the info on the investigation being botched. Again, you say alot but have not offered any links or info regarding where you get all of what you think.
You are going on ignore....
When you don't even know the difference between rude vx polite....I have no use for you.
 
What I find especially troubling is how so many people claim to have knowledge of is if a person is insane or not....especially when they do not have a license to test or declare it....(psychotic depression is not normal depression....its not just feeling sad).
Especially when someone has been regularly abusing psychotropic medications on a regular basis that have been improperly prescribed by a MALPRACTICING psychiatrist.

When the mental health hospital refuses to take you in because "the patient was overmedicated".....that is a red flag right there.

But these are often the same sort who claim knowledge of research scientists medical field expertise and psychically seem to know the intimate details of a person's medical history too.....

There is a LOT wrong with the Prosecution and investigation.
They still cannot get it right because there has been a mistrial declared....the prosecution's hands are tied for new evidence....but the defense's are not. (Again...the prosecuting attorney's lawyer friends are probably giving them a ton of grief for going forward with this incomplete case)

What is Reddington going to dig up in the meantime?
Dunno....he is also representing the husband....which ties his hands in some ways. During the trial he drew the prosecution a map....Never mind what he says to the press....he still drew a freaking map.
 
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One other question....

Are college sorority hand signals also considered "gang signs"?
Asking for a friend....well....niece.
 
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What I find especially troubling is how so many people claim to have knowledge of is if a person is insane or not....especially when they do not have a license to test or declare it....(psychotic depression is not normal depression....its not just feeling sad).
Especially when someone has been regularly abusing psychotropic medications on a regular basis that have been improperly prescribed by a MALPRACTICING psychiatrist.

When the mental health hospital refuses to take you in because "the patient was overmedicated".....that is a red flag right there.

But these are often the same sort who claim knowledge of research scientists medical field expertise and psychically seem to know the intimate details of a person's medical history too.....

There is a LOT wrong with the Prosecution and investigation.
They still cannot get it right because there has been a mistrial declared....the prosecution's hands are tied for new evidence....but the defense's are not. (Again...the prosecuting attorney's lawyer friends are probably giving them a ton of grief for going forward with this incomplete case)

What is Reddington going to dig up in the meantime?
Dunno....he is also representing the husband....which ties his hands in some ways. During the trial he drew the prosecution a map....Never mind what he says to the press....he still drew a freaking map.
That is why I feel it is absolutely outrageous that this trial would ask these jurors to do that. It isn't their job. As you point out it is ridiculous to assume 12 people from the community on jury duty could do this. This has to be determined by a prior diagnosis and clear cut warning by medical professionals. I have no problem with determining that some people are incapable of understanding what they are doing. Generally this is seen clearly while they are still a minor. But in this case the woman did see psychiatric professionals, they claim she was not "insane" (legally incapable of knowing what is right and wrong). So telling jurors to disregard that testimony and determine on their own that she was "innocent by reason of insanity" is, in my opinion, an outrageous request.
 
One other question....

Are college sorority hand signals also considered "gang signs"?
Asking for a friend....well....niece.
Direct Comparison of Functions
FeatureCollege SororitiesStreet Gangs
Primary PurposeTo celebrate sisterhood, show school/organizational pride, and honor collegiate traditions.To claim territory, signal active criminal alignment, and challenge rivals.
Context of UseUsed openly at campus events, in graduation photos, and during structured step shows or performances.Used covertly or confrontationally on the street, in videos, or in graffiti to mark presence.
The "Letters"Gestures typically mimic Greek letters (e.g., Delta, Alpha) or official organizational symbols (e.g., ivy leaves, crescents).Gestures typically represent specific street numbers, initials of the gang, or specific regional blocks.
Consequences of MisuseFlashing a sign as a non-member is considered disrespectful or a breach of etiquette within Greek life."Throwing up" a rival sign or falsely claiming a gang can lead to immediate physical violence or lethal retaliation.
 
Amazing the lack of discussion on a Christian site of the demonic aspect going on here.

Lindsay said she heard a “male” voice tell her she had no choice but to kill her kids.
Obviously SHE was the one who chose to listen to it.
There’s no record of any of the demoniacs that Jesus cast out of people ever killing anyone. Since we know Satan wants to kill steal and destroy, these possessed people had to have some level of control not to kill people.

We know that drugs are an entry to demonic activity.
If there’s ONE thing that can be taken away from this evil act, it’s stay AWAY from PHARMAKEIA!!
 
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Her lawyer Reddington....
Special piece of work....a huge over inflated ego who loves seeing his name in the news.

Thanks for the response! I don't disagree with that.

The substance of his comments? I dont buy it for a minute. Mostly because he is a lawyer with a legal imperative to defend his clients. So press statements can be outrageous lies....zero recriminations.

Do you believe Reddington was flat-out lying when he was [presumably] speaking for Lindsay Clancy and defending/exonerating Patrick Clancy? If so, what would be the point of doing that?

The prosecution gets a second crack at this....new jury. (The Last jury was pretty much nuts....all of them)

I don't disagree with this either. The prosecution, unfortunately, does not appear to be competent.
 
Thanks for the response! I don't disagree with that.



Do you believe Reddington was flat-out lying when he was [presumably] speaking for Lindsay Clancy and defending/exonerating her Patrick Clancy? If so, what would be the point of doing that?



I don't disagree with this either. The prosecution, unfortunately, does not appear to be competent.

Reddington has been hired by both Lindsey AND her ex husband.....BOTH are his clients. So he has to represent both in the media and in court.
Her ex-husband has the distinction of not being charged with a crime. So only in the court of public opinion is he required to defend him. There are zero rules about lying to the press....or the press lying to the public.

The case of suing the psychiatrist for malpractice has not gone forward yet....it will soon enough and the hospital at which he pop practices at has fired him....and his insurance policy is going go get hit so hard....its issuer is going go stop issuing insurance to psychiatrists. (Or at least create new guidelines to limit exposure)

The prosecution did such a poor job they never once considered the poor job the detectives did in investigating anything....
Reddington, the stuffed shirt he is, never looks a gift horse in the mouth. He is going to run with this and claim how great he is the whole time....never mind the fact that an average attorney would likely win this case too.
However....the jury wildcard got pulled.
And unforeseen circumstances have happened.....ending in mistrial.

Rules for mistrial are that the prosecution is stuck with ALL the exact same evidence they had before the trial....whether they used it or not the first time as discovery held for the first trial.

The Defense is not held to anything of the sort. He can bring in anything, anytime he finds it relevant.
I'm sure that the ex-husband is not happy about being the focus of the reasonable doubt....and will have something to say about that....and possibly a juicy lawsuit if the person saying anything untoward has any assets or insurance policies.

(The ex-husband's pregnant girlfriend should take note of all of this just the same and take precautions)


The bar of difficulty is so hard the second time around for prosecuting attorneys in a mistrial....they usually give up before they start.

So....has the retrial been filed? Start date issued?

We will see what we see.....
 
Ok why prejudicial? Why the cheap shot? Are you another one of those who cannot make rational arguments without resorting to smears?

Yes it does.

Opinion. Negative at that, and along the lines of a personal attack, not logic.

Not really. It is about the one-time male command voice that turned Lindsay into a robot to murder her children, one by one, via an alleged male command voice in her head. This specific part was cooked up after the killings. How long did it take Lindsay to strangle all three of her children?
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Regarding the phone call to Lindsay Clancy from her husband while she was killing her children. When exactly did that phone call happen? Before, during, or after Lindsay had finished strangling her kids to death?

The relevant call is the 14-second conversation at approximately 5:34 p.m. on January 24, 2023. Patrick Clancy was at a CVS picking up medication. He first tried Lindsay at 5:33 p.m.; she did not answer and called him back a minute later. They briefly discussed a generic substitute for the stool softener. He later testified she sounded quiet and “busy,” (Busy strangling her children to death?) and he assumed she was bathing the children.

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Patrick had left the house around 5:15 p.m. He returned shortly after 6:00 p.m. (he called her unanswered cell at 6:09 p.m.). The children were already dead in the basement when he found them. Prosecutors have stated that Lindsay used the errand to create a window of time and that the 5:34 p.m. call occurred while she was in the process of strangling them. There is no public, minute-by-minute reconstruction of the exact order or duration of each strangling because no one else was present.

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The later 911 call (around 6:11 p.m.) happened after she had already finished, jumped from the second-story window, and was found injured in the yard. That recording captures Patrick discovering the children, not the earlier pharmacy call.

Either way, quiet and busy is not psychotic.



I don't know what you're referring to here.

Control enough. Demonstrated by the lucid phone call with her husband during the time she was allegedly under the total control of the magical male command voice. Why didn't the male command voice direct her to make a chicken pot pie for hubby?

Not in this case. There was too much factual evidence to the contrary relative to the claim. Also, no prior history of a male command voice. Not prior or not after. Only during. The nuance must be lost of you between ordinary mental illness and the extraordinary claim of a male command voice by a paid psychologist, hired by defence and paid thru some kind of account. How much do you think he got paid to concoct that bunk about a male voice that turns a female into a killer robot? Abracadebra now you are to kill your children including your eight month old....Yeah sure.

You know what is hilarious how you just speculate over and over again.
 
Her lawyer Reddington....
Special piece of work....a huge over inflated ego who loves seeing his name in the news.

The substance of his comments? I dont buy it for a minute. Mostly because he is a lawyer with a legal imperative to defend his clients. So press statements can be outrageous lies....zero recriminations.
What he says under oath in court? Whole different thing. But he wont be in that position will he?

So....let's see what happens in court....

The prosecution gets a second crack at this....new jury. (The Last jury was pretty much nuts....all of them)

His ego is neither here nor there, irrelevant as someone ever so wrongly once declared!
 
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Gotta love it when people can declare the prosecution as "incompetent" .... yes how long have they been practicing law?
 
I get it, you are from Canada, the struggle isn't real to you, but women's suffrage is quite real to many American women. How many years have they had to fight to overcome the nasty stigmatism of women being "hormonal"? We have made tremendous inroads with women running for President, do you have any idea how harmful this could be to that? If men cannot fairly assess a woman's guilt because of "hormones" then how can they fairly assess whether or not to vote for a woman as president? No one is going to let a few women on this jury ruin all that work that has been done over the last 70 years. Especially not right before World War 3 starts. We need every able bodied woman to be in this army. This is their chance to once and for all get rid of the stigma of being "the weaker sex".

How many years have women had to suffer under the patriarchy not allowing them to fight in the army?

As per usual retreat to snark after you make a statement which was quite humorless and in very bad taste.
 
Reddington has been hired by both Lindsey AND her ex husband.....BOTH are his clients. So he has to represent both in the media and in court.
Her ex-husband has the distinction of not being charged with a crime. So only in the court of public opinion is he required to defend him. There are zero rules about lying to the press....or the press lying to the public.

The case of suing the psychiatrist for malpractice has not gone forward yet....it will soon enough and the hospital at which he pop practices at has fired him....and his insurance policy is going go get hit so hard....its issuer is going go stop issuing insurance to psychiatrists. (Or at least create new guidelines to limit exposure)

The prosecution did such a poor job they never once considered the poor job the detectives did in investigating anything....
Reddington, the stuffed shirt he is, never looks a gift horse in the mouth. He is going to run with this and claim how great he is the whole time....never mind the fact that an average attorney would likely win this case too.
However....the jury wildcard got pulled.
And unforeseen circumstances have happened.....ending in mistrial.

Rules for mistrial are that the prosecution is stuck with ALL the exact same evidence they had before the trial....whether they used it or not the first time as discovery held for the first trial.

The Defense is not held to anything of the sort. He can bring in anything, anytime he finds it relevant.
I'm sure that the ex-husband is not happy about being the focus of the reasonable doubt....and will have something to say about that....and possibly a juicy lawsuit if the person saying anything untoward has any assets or insurance policies.

(The ex-husband's pregnant girlfriend should take note of all of this just the same and take precautions)


The bar of difficulty is so hard the second time around for prosecuting attorneys in a mistrial....they usually give up before they start.

So....has the retrial been filed? Start date issued?

We will see what we see.....
He is the ex husbands lawyer because the ex husband lost 3 children. Yes, I suspect this case is designed to set the stage to sue both the people who prescribed the drugs and the people who made the drugs.

The bar is much lower for a civil suit, but still if she had been declared innocent due to temporary insanity it would have cleared the way for a huge settlement with these drug companies and the people who prescribed the drugs. Three children were killed, if it is not Lindsay's fault then it is their fault. So I think you can see the ex husband had a big stake in the trial. That said, even if she is found guilty it doesn't mean the drugs didn't play a part and shouldn't be held liable. It just means it will be a tougher battle and likely a smaller payout.
 
There are no snide comments in what I said. No you do not know if the husband is guilty or not, but you sure can get out the crystal ball and pretend you do...now that is possibly a snide comment. I am more than a little fed up with people who LOOK for a way to one up others on this forum. Your comment about me being snide is exactly the kind of thing I mean.

You KNOW do you that the husband is not being completely transparent? And you KNOW the investigation was incomplete? Well seriously Mr Holmes do tell us more.

Three children are more than dead...they were brutally murdered...face down....with purpose and intent. And you DO NOT KNOW but you sure have alot to say about the husband...but you DO NOT KNOW. That is called conspiracy and for some reason you had to get on here and tell us all about your personal thoughts. I have stuck to the facts and most of my posts have been about the rotten attitude of the op who has no respect for women whatsoever. I would actually look up and read your sources because that is who I am...I don't go shooting in all directions and proclaiming things I do not know. I would read the 'evidence' and make up my own mind.

Pray tell....where is the info on the investigation being botched. Again, you say alot but have not offered any links or info regarding where you get all of what you think.

Agree, the "I know" is way over the top.

Agree, equally tragic to use the death of three children as a way to malign women.
 
Not in this case. There was too much factual evidence to the contrary relative to the claim. Also, no prior history of a male command voice. Not prior or not after. Only during. The nuance must be lost of you between ordinary mental illness and the extraordinary claim of a male command voice by a paid psychologist, hired by defence and paid thru some kind of account. How much do you think he got paid to concoct that bunk about a male voice that turns a female into a killer robot? Abracadebra now you are to kill your children including your eight month old....Yeah sure.
What prior history?

Do you understand that this is not about post postpartum depression or post postpartum psychosis, it is about standard of care.

So stop with the gaslighting and spend time learning about the real problems.
 
Agree, the "I know" is way over the top.

Agree, equally tragic to use the death of three children as a way to malign women.
No one on this thread has used the death of three children to mallign women. What they have used is the comments of women on the jury to malign women.
 
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They are divorced after the murdering?

No, they are renewing their vows. Sorry, (not sorry) yes they are divorced. murdering yur 3 children is not appreciated by most men

I just know I am going to get what for cause I said the above ^^^^^^^

Wait, the husband had an affair and abandoned wife? But he was working at home?

Wait....whatyah mean wait...