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Just my opinion here so judge me because this post is 💯% my views and opinion.
I know what God has done for me and what He has saved me from and the miracles He has done for me.
None of these things could I do for myself because I am not able to do any of them.
But at the same time they happened and that is an absolute fact.
Therefore, I believe as one who is saved and had these experiences that I need to share them with others in hopes it can happen for them.
That to me is doing works because of my Faith in God.
I know what God has done for me and what He has saved me from and the miracles He has done for me.
None of these things could I do for myself because I am not able to do any of them.
But at the same time they happened and that is an absolute fact.
Therefore, I believe as one who is saved and had these experiences that I need to share them with others in hopes it can happen for them.
That to me is doing works because of my Faith in God.
Yes, 1John 2:19 speaks of anti- or pseudo- Christs, and Heb. 6:4-6 refers to apostates,
which are possibilities d & e:
d. a pseudo-Christian (MT 7:21, 1JN 2:19), who may affirm morality while rejecting its divine rationale.
e. an apostate (1JN 2:19, HB 6:4-6), who once believed but became blasphemous or foolish and ship-wrecked their faith (1TM 1:19-20).
but you ignored the other three possibilities:
a. a normally loving person observed during a rare moment when he/she acted uncharacteristically (PHP 3:12-16),
b. an immature Believer, who is making progress–you should have known him/her a year ago! (1CR 3:1-3, EPH 4:11-15)
c. a truthseeker who has not yet learned the correct interpretation of God’s Word (1CR 6:9-11, EPH 5:8-9), or
And what you shared is no more "the word" than my opinion,
but although we disagree now, we will agree in heaven.
(Better late than never :^)
which are possibilities d & e:
d. a pseudo-Christian (MT 7:21, 1JN 2:19), who may affirm morality while rejecting its divine rationale.
e. an apostate (1JN 2:19, HB 6:4-6), who once believed but became blasphemous or foolish and ship-wrecked their faith (1TM 1:19-20).
but you ignored the other three possibilities:
a. a normally loving person observed during a rare moment when he/she acted uncharacteristically (PHP 3:12-16),
b. an immature Believer, who is making progress–you should have known him/her a year ago! (1CR 3:1-3, EPH 4:11-15)
c. a truthseeker who has not yet learned the correct interpretation of God’s Word (1CR 6:9-11, EPH 5:8-9), or
And what you shared is no more "the word" than my opinion,
but although we disagree now, we will agree in heaven.
(Better late than never :^)
are you trying to make it appear as if a person can lose salvation?
is salvation a gift or something we must merit?
the three possibilities you gave have no bearing on the passages you gave.
1 john 2, this person was never saved
heb 6. If a person falls away they can't be resaved.. But a person can not fall away, so the argument is mute (it was directed to lovers of the law)
is salvation a gift or something we must merit?
the three possibilities you gave have no bearing on the passages you gave.
1 john 2, this person was never saved
heb 6. If a person falls away they can't be resaved.. But a person can not fall away, so the argument is mute (it was directed to lovers of the law)
Hint: James is addressing "saving" as relates to the soul and how this provides a visible testimony to the observers of the faith, but if you are not living out your faith, then yes it is dead, not being put to use.
"The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously? (James 4:5)
which contains a strong rebuke to believers who are not applying the word.
It would seem that they have no works, but the Spirit indwells them.
There is nothing more I can on this topic.
It is not about losing salvation nor is it about having only mental assent.
"The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously? (James 4:5)
which contains a strong rebuke to believers who are not applying the word.
It would seem that they have no works, but the Spirit indwells them.
There is nothing more I can on this topic.
It is not about losing salvation nor is it about having only mental assent.
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No, He said, what does it prophit a person if they say they have faith but has no works. can that faith save them
james is attacking a licentious non faith or mere belief gospel of people who can say they are saved, but never have to do one work. its ok. It does not matter, i am still saved.
He said they did zero works..
The spirit can not dwell in a person who is not saved..
Your right its not about losing salvation.
its about testing our faith to know if we are saved or not. do we just have lip service.
these were hearers only not doers.. They had zero zip nada works.
they were not saved. If they were saved, they would have some works..
james is attacking a licentious non faith or mere belief gospel of people who can say they are saved, but never have to do one work. its ok. It does not matter, i am still saved.
He said they did zero works..
The spirit can not dwell in a person who is not saved..
Your right its not about losing salvation.
its about testing our faith to know if we are saved or not. do we just have lip service.
these were hearers only not doers.. They had zero zip nada works.
they were not saved. If they were saved, they would have some works..