Oh no, not another Sabbath Blessing thread!
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Based on your understanding on all the sabbaths , which one of the sabbaths Jesus fulfilled and which He did Not
Thank you
God said the new day starts in the evening.
[SUP]Genesis1:5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
[SUP]genesis1: 8 [/SUP]And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
[SUP]Genesis1:13 [/SUP]And the evening and the morning were the third day. and so on
Leviticus 23:31"You shall do no work at all. It is to be a perpetual statute throughout your generations in all your dwelling places. 32"It is to be a sabbath of complete rest to you, and you shall humble your souls; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening you shall keep your sabbath."
this is about The Day of Atonement not the weekly Sabbath, but even here you can see that the Day starts in the evening. The weekly Sabbath is from the evening of Friday to the evening of Saturday
is it Saturday all around the world?
well supposing all of our profiles or correct the three of us who were at that time speaking were all in the same hemisphere so it at the time was Saturday. in post 27 i refer to the fact that the sabbath imo is the 7th day,i.e. "Sunday the day the others say is the sabbath" and ",,,,"i do not contend as to which is the 7th day",,but then the responses were to convince me that the 7th(which i already believed) was the sabbath and seeing they thought this i thought why post any further and so then ceased.
it's difficult to be on the internet and protect any of our personal info. me and you both have been members for a long while. my flag at first was the Netherlands but is now the u.s.,,,your is the u.s. but long ago was a tiny island not far north of dom.rep.(i was on a sailboat not far from it at the time headed for Suriname),so it caught my eye.,,,now i don't disagree that any of us protect our per.effects,i think it wise. i in the beginning searched for a screen name and found there were 5 world wide using "iamsoandso" one a woman another a man from Spain one from occupy w.s (i then became one of these,but have never met any of the others),
over time i as you also have noticed as one person was banned another new member appeared,but after a while of reading the same issues being discussed match the one banned(but without the offensive things),,,so i suppose they saw the error and so it doesn't offed me. over time i noticed one member that has the exact same screen name with one number difference. and another that was an older man and now is a young man with another screen name.
now me and you along with many others have been here and posting for years so we know we are none i mentioned. my point though is we will never pinpoint the timezone by hemisphere and be able to conclude where it is Saturday or Sunday with anyone's screen name. and its probably all for the better that is to protect our selves on the www. ,,,lol once one of us was from "north Korea",,,every time i looked at that flag i wanted bad to p.m. and ask them ?'s about n. Korea(because of the things we see on the news),,,but now their from another nation,i agree protect our p. effects,,,,
Why would the 1st century believers/Gentiles be told about hearing Moses in every city being read in the synagogues every sabbath? Doesn't look like 1st century believers are replacement theology, nor are they being told that the scriptures are old and done away with. They are being told 5 things, the last is Go to the place where Moses is being read every Sabbath. This is where I am at today, meeting every Sabbath in the home with many other believers and we read the Torah portions starting at 2 pm. The fellowship and sharing, as the Holy Spirit moves us, is awesome. I feel my spirit being filled with joy and gladness and look forward to next Sabbath.
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Reading from the context of Acts 15. The reason they have these commands were so that they may not offend the Jewish believers that followed the law. This was to remove the offense among them out of love, for religious, moral, and physical purity. These are not applied to everyone. Back then, before a they were saved they were pagans. Morally we should be upright though!
So this wasn't legalistic, this was love so that they won't offend. Paul told us, live by love and live by the Holy Spirit (Gal 5:13-16).
My friend is a seventh day adventist, he follows the Torah. If I am around him, I should not try to offend him. If I visit his church, I should respect his practice. Not under the law of Moses, but under the law of Christ I would respect him.
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Is the book of genesis part of the torah or is it part of the law of Moses ?
so you attend synagogue
WLTX, the gentiles were not being instructed to go to the synagogues to hear Moses read.
James was sending a letter to instruct the gentiles what they should pay heed to in order not offend the jews; to be pleasing to God concerning those things; and in order that they would not be swayed by judaizers insisting they live under the Law of Moses.
he is saying the jews know about those things already where ever Moses is read.
the Temple and sacrifices and Old Covenant traditions and ceremonies were still underway during this transitional time.
a few years from that writing it would all be gone.
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The gentiles went to the synagogues on the sabbath because that is where the scrolls were, and that is when the Jews got together to read the scrolls. It wasn't like today where every mother's son has his own bible, and the body of Christ has grown in stature and strength over the past 19 centuries to fully understand that salvation (Christ) came out of the Judeans, but isn't from Judeans themselves.`
Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day
This is a well know way of teaching people, you don't overwhelm them with everything all at once. You give them some instruction to help them. Then as they go every Sabbath and learn they will grow in the Lord and know how to walk in his ways.
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day
This is a well know way of teaching people, you don't overwhelm them with everything all at once. You give them some instruction to help them. Then as they go every Sabbath and learn they will grow in the Lord and know how to walk in his ways.
Could you explain this verse ?
Is this futuer or past
Isaiah 66
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
This verse is also figurative
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
The righteousness demanded by all 10 commandments has been imputed to me through my faith in Christ.
How sad these worship on Sunday only people are!! And such strange teachings they give, saying it is from scripture! Scripture says they are allowed to use this day, they say you must. God the Father says to use Saturday and Christ said He changes nothing the Father said but they insist the Father spoke through Moses and Moses was a liar, or some strange odd being not to be listened to. Christ and scripture says that through Him we are to grow, to obey beyond "just do it" to obey with spirit and truth and remember it is all based on love. They say just don't ever obey. The emperor Constantine, not scripture, said anything Jewish was to be taken out of the church, scripture never says that. These people follow Constantine.
They have no idea at all of how we are to grow in Christ. Scripture tells us plainly how Christ helped us take our worship to a new level. They do not want growth, they want to wipe out much of scripture and start a new "religion" based on what they say, not what God says.
And one of the chief tools they use is the Sabbath! Even if they wipe out every word of the Creator and listen to Christ as a new God who is separate from His Father, it does not tell them to use Sunday only as a guide for them to any of the ways of Christ.
They have no idea at all of how we are to grow in Christ. Scripture tells us plainly how Christ helped us take our worship to a new level. They do not want growth, they want to wipe out much of scripture and start a new "religion" based on what they say, not what God says.
And one of the chief tools they use is the Sabbath! Even if they wipe out every word of the Creator and listen to Christ as a new God who is separate from His Father, it does not tell them to use Sunday only as a guide for them to any of the ways of Christ.
I WONDER WHY THIS VERSE IS IN THE OLD TESTEMENT IN A TIME OF LAW
[h=3]Habakkuk 2[/h]King James Version (KJV)
2 I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved.
2 And the Lord answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.
4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.