So Paul was not free from the condemnation of sin?
Do you believe that this vile body of flesh can will not to sin?
Only a very unwise servant would look the Master in the face and say I have no sin.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Empty platitudes devoid of substance. The reply I was expecting. People like you cannot engage directly, all you respond is with canned answers wrought from a very few oft repeated scriptures which are taken completely out of context.
Your first contention...
So Paul was not free from the condemnation of sin?
There is no condemnation for those whom are IN Jesus Christ whom walk after the Spirit.
One cannot be in Jesus Christ and not be walking after the Spirit. Paul wrote...
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Paul undertands that FAITH is connected to FAITHFULNESS or WALKING AFTER THE SPIRIT.
The Spirit of life in Jesus Christ is what literally sets us free from the law of sin and death because when we are walking according to the Spirit it is impossible to be sinning unto death. Yet that is a concept you cannot possibly accept nor even discuss. The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us whom WALK after the Spirit. If there is no "walking after the Spirit" then there is no "fulfillment of righteousness" in us.
What you do is appeal to the "wretched man" passage and pervert it into the description of the genuine Christian whom has been born again. In other words you treat the new birth as something that still leaves you wretched, filthy and still enslaved to sin, this you reject any notion that "all things" have been made new. It is a real shame.
Do you believe that this vile body of flesh can will not to sin?
You speak of the flesh body as if it has a mind of its own. The flesh body is subject to YOUR MIND and you are a slave to whom YOU obey.
Blaming sin on the meat of the body and concluding with a "I cannot help it" is to play the victim card and reject all personal responsibility. Jesus commanded people to be DOERS of the word, yet your claim, in effect, is "I cannot because I am in a flesh body."
The flesh in and of itself does not will anything. It is YOU who will to do or will to not do. A will set upon serving sin reveals a corrupt and evil heart. A will set upon serving God reveals a pure and good heart. The change of will from a service to evil to the service of righteousness is wrought through godly sorrow working a repentance unto salvation, and that salvation is not a salvation which leaves one wretched, filthy, enslaved to evil.
Stop blaming the meat on your bones for your rebellion to God. Take personal responsibility for it in repentance and forsake that rebellion and yield to God wholeheartedly. It is through DOING that that God will shed His love abroad in your heart by the power of His grace and you will be totally transformed. You will henceforth contend for VICTORY OVER SIN in Christ as opposed to ONGOING SERVICE OF SIN in Christ.
Remember the children of God are MANIFEST in that they do not commit sin. The children of God are MANIFEST in that they DO righteousness. That is what the Bible plainly says and little one liners, quips, and proof texts taken out of context do not change that.
Basically you cling to out of context proof texts and ignore the rest of the Bible. That methodology will ensure your destruction.
Only a very unwise servant would look the Master in the face and say I have no sin.
Again, another short quip where you appeal to a verse which you have perverted its context.
1Joh 1:8-9 is referring to initial repentance where we come clean with God. It is not a proof text for the ongoing service of evil in the Christian life.
If we say we have no sin means "no sin to our account" or in other words if we claim to be "not guilty of sinning." We have all sinned and rebelled against God.
If we WALK in the light as he is in the light then the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. IF WE WALK. WALK = WHAT WE DO. WALK = OUR CONDUCT. WALK = ACTION.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Think about the absurdity of how you twist that passage. You contend that you are always sinning and thus never free from sin, thus how have you been cleansed from all unrighteousness? How have you been cleansed from all sin? You claim that you are still filthy and still full of sin, which is the very opposite of being clean.
It is absurd.
This disconnect of FAITH from FAITH MANDATES DEEDS is so stupid and foolish. Faith is an ACTIVE PRINCIPLE whereby we are wholeheartedly yielded to God. If our hearts are not yielded to God then we do not have real faith. That is why James taught that faith without deeds is dead, James understood that FAITH and DOING are connected.
It is the word which cleanses us and in order to be clean we have to DO it. This the children of God are manifest in that they DO righteousness. It is so simple.
