Radical Muslims Murder 32 Nigerian Christians, Torch Church in Brutal Attack

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tourist

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Aren't the majority of adherents to Islam Muslims?

Actually ALL of the adherents to Islam are Muslims. Islam is the religion, Muslim is the person who follows Islam.
 
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Actually ALL of the adherents to Islam are Muslims. Islam is the religion, Muslim is the person who follows Islam.

Right, that's why I'm not sure what brother tourist meant.
 

tourist

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Aren't the majority of adherents to Islam Muslims?
I really don't know, maybe this is true. Probably many read the Koran faithfully but don't believe that the book is teaching them to hate and kill those that are not of their persuasion.
 
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I really don't know, maybe this is true. Probably many read the Koran faithfully but don't believe that the book is teaching them to hate and kill those that are not of their persuasion.

Well that is the issue many don't understand with Islam. If you follow the Koran,you are a "radical" Muslim. Now I realize there are secular Muslims. But to those that follow the Koran anyone who doesn't follow Islam is an infidel and that includes other Muslims. Islam is political more than it is religious.
 

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Well that is the issue many don't understand with Islam. If you follow the Koran,you are a "radical" Muslim. Now I realize there are secular Muslims. But to those that follow the Koran anyone who doesn't follow Islam is an infidel and that includes other Muslims. Islam is political more than it is religious.
I agree with you about Islam being more political than religious. I will also say that I had a good Muslim friend years ago who read the Koran but acted more Christian than a lot of Christians that I knew at the time. To me Muslims are like those that are Jewish who follow their own religious practices even though that it may be contrary to scripture. As like the Muslims there are some zealots in the Jewish faith too. I suppose this is also true for a few Christians as well as they strictly focus on the letter of the law but have no understanding of the spirit of the law.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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well it's actually worse than that

posted this on another thread yesterday

Nigerian Christians Under Siege: Attacks Claim 120 Lives Since February
and China has not changed its approach to Christians...kill em. kill em dead. in fact, it has picked up on its efforts to do so

according to 'Christianity Today' the following 50...yes 50..are the most dangerous countries in which to practice Christianity








so the nonsense being touted by muslims in the house illustrates very well opposition to both Jews and Christians
and allowing it to continue and using the attack in New Zealand as futher ridiculous anti Trump rhetoric illustrates the agenda of the left and the agenda of muslims

the world domination tour is well under way anyhow
 
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I really don't know, maybe this is true. Probably many read the Koran faithfully but don't believe that the book is teaching them to hate and kill those that are not of their persuasion.

have you read any portion of the koran?

do you understand why muslims are dispersing through the world?

all muslims are adherents of Islam

Islam is actually a political system and not just a 'religion'...for example 'sharia law'

there is plenty of propaganda out there about how Islam is a 'religion' of peace

if anyone follows the koran, they will not interpret it as peaceful
 

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Well that is the issue many don't understand with Islam. If you follow the Koran,you are a "radical" Muslim. Now I realize there are secular Muslims. But to those that follow the Koran anyone who doesn't follow Islam is an infidel and that includes other Muslims. Islam is political more than it is religious.
Finally. Someone gets it. Islam is radical, by our modern American view. The liberal media wants you to think otherwise. Dont be made a fool.
There are many documented cases where Muslims have killed life long Christian friends when they have finally taken control of a country, by either order of a Iman or their own volition, and understanding of the Koran. Lebanon being the most recent example.
Islam is NOT a religion of peace. It is a religion of kill and subdue.
Quite frankly, its true founder is not Mohammad, but satan.
The bible even says the anti Christ will come from the middle east. Good bet that is not going to be a Jew, or Christian, or Hindu, or Buddist.
 

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have you read any portion of the koran?

do you understand why muslims are dispersing through the world?

all muslims are adherents of Islam

Islam is actually a political system and not just a 'religion'...for example 'sharia law'

there is plenty of propaganda out there about how Islam is a 'religion' of peace

if anyone follows the koran, they will not interpret it as peaceful
I have enough problems just interpreting the bible let alone the koran. I have never read the koran and have no desire or inclination to do so. I know little or nothing about Muslims.
 

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The US should be trying to help these brothers and sisters by promoting their immigration to safety in the US. One would have thought with a Mike Pence a Christian this would be of utmost concern.
 

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Islam is a propoganda machine.
It works by setting up a symbol, demanding allegiance to it, and killing those who disagree.
Once you acknowledge the sign, they regard rejection later as a death penalty betrayal.

Once you say murder is legitamised to support a belief, and this becomes social law, it is hard
to turn back.

But the way to fight this fascist idiology is through truth, justice and standing up for the abused
and the oppressed. Fighting the Koran which is just imprecise and full of slander which is non-specific
so any nutcase can interpret how they like is counter productive. Speaking truth and justice works.

One death is the same as killing a whole group. Two interpretations. One murder should be stopped
because it threatens the whole group, or one murder by a member of another group, means that other group
should die as punishment. This leads to the terrorist idiology, because you are a member of a nation,
and that nation sent soldiers who commited a crime, any murder of a citizen of that nation is legitimate.

Another, murder is forbidden, except for apostacy or corruption. Corruption is anything deemed to be
against Islam. Apostacy is leaving the faith. So it is not justice, but allows families to murder their
members for offence to the family or the faith. And the civil authorities are scared to act against this
in case they equally are accused of acting corruptly. It is like a gangster mafia, which takes over peoples
minds and anyone can be bumped off with little comeback. Not surprisingly the psychopaths and sociopaths
dominate and no one can oppose them or expose them because that itself is bringing corruption to the person
involved. Unfortunately this is what sharia brings plus a lot more extremely bad realities and injustices.

Once the mindset in put in place it hard to neutralise or bring back sense to.
It is why the advances in knowledge and science have had little impact in these societies.
 

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Islam is a propoganda machine.
Look no further than Saudi Arabia for exporting extremist Wahhabism all over the Islamic world.

For more than two centuries, Wahhabism has been Saudi Arabia's dominant faith. It is an austere form of Islam that insists on a literal interpretation of the Koran. Strict Wahhabis believe that all those who don't practice their form of Islam are heathens and enemies. Critics say that Wahhabism's rigidity has led it to misinterpret and distort Islam, pointing to extremists such as Osama bin Laden and the Taliban.

Wahhabism's explosive growth began in the 1970s when Saudi charities started funding Wahhabi schools (madrassas) and mosques from Islamabad to Culver City, California. Here are excerpts from FRONTLINE's interviews with Mai Yamani, an anthropologist who studies Saudi society; Vali Nasr, an authority on Islamic fundamentalism; Maher Hathout, spokesperson for the Islamic Center of Southern California; and Ahmed Ali, a Shi'a Muslim from Saudi Arabia.(Also see the Links and Readings section of this site for more analyses of Wahhabism and Saudi Arabia.)

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I have enough problems just interpreting the bible let alone the koran. I have never read the koran and have no desire or inclination to do so. I know little or nothing about Muslims.
well at least you now know that muslims follow Islam. ALL muslims

I would think the ongoing murder and purposeful genocide of Christians in certain countries would be of concern to all Christians
 

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I really don't know, maybe this is true. Probably many read the Koran faithfully but don't believe that the book is teaching them to hate and kill those that are not of their persuasion.
You should really look into it, because you'd be surprised to find out this is exactly what it teaches, it's just everyone is so PC they wont say a word about it, most Muslims don't even know what it says, and when you know nice Muslims you tend to judge based on how they act. Your ignorance of their book is a HUGE blind spot you have (not to mention the millions and millions of Muslims that have no clue what it says), and really worth a look into. I'm saying this in love, not at all as an attack at all.
 
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during the Obama admin, the following occured in 2016

According to a report by the non-partisan Pew Research Center, however, 99% of the nearly 12,600 Syrians granted refugee status last year were Muslims. Less than 1% were Christian. Syria's population is 87% Muslim and 10% Christian, according to the CIA World Fact Book.

The US should be trying to help these brothers and sisters by promoting their immigration to safety in the US. One would have thought with a Mike Pence a Christian this would be of utmost concern.
don't point fingers

how concerned are you? do you pray for them?

unless you have a direct phone line to Pence I doubt you have a clue what he is doing since your main concern is posting left wing non news sources with a constant negative bias towards anything conservative or Christian.

don't make me laugh
 

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I have enough problems just interpreting the bible let alone the koran. I have never read the koran and have no desire or inclination to do so. I know little or nothing about Muslims.
See this is also a huge area of misunderstanding, Muslims are all different, and can be nice, mean, pretty, or ugly, but the problem is not "Muslims", the problem wholesale is Islam. From top to bottom this is an evil ideology and nothing more that a deception from the truth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I love the Muslim as I'm sure you do, but the religion of Islam is the evil. Just the way you said that seemed to get the two confused.
 

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"Is it not being witnessed within the political 'ranks'...of a sinister movement, and our
laws are now working against this nation. A can of worms has been opened...and no way
to put a lid on it. What now lurks within all social networks...we know not!"
 

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