Repentance and Keeping Commandments is only the beginning of salvation.
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When you acknowledge someone is not justified by faith alone, while sinning against Christ, you wouldn't be blathering about anything. You'd just agree whole justification without whole sanctification, is false gospel.
Continually misrepresenting something one agrees with as blather, is nonsensical.
When did Rev 14, or the book of Revelation, or any NT Scripture of Christ, command Jesus' saints to keep a sabbath day?
Oh, I see now. You're a Judaizing sabbath-commander, as in Acts 15:1.
Which is why you chase other people around for prey:
Mat 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
You still haven't answered for your pseudo-sabbath congregation:
Does your congregation preach against anyone holding any gvt/commercial/corporate/contract careers, that requires working on your sabbath day? Does your congregation keep no company with anyone, that continues to hold any gvt/commercial/corporate/contract careers, and continues to work on your sabbath day?
Or, does your congregation justify working on your sabbath day, by a Corban gift of their sabbath payday to your pseudo-sabbath congregation?
I've never met a Sabbath-commander, that mocks walking as Jesus walked, and reject keeping His commandments blameless.
Oh yes, of course: Someone that preaches commandments, but not commandment keeping:
Mat 23:2
The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
If I'm going to be proselytized to Sabbath keeping as by law of Moses, then it must at least begin with a congregation of sabbath keepers, and not sabbath commanders only.
Until now, I never knew that the faith-alone justifiers have some league with sabbath commanders: One commands faith and the other commands a sabbath, but neither keep the faith of Jesus and His commandments.
Luk 23:12
And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.
Mat 16:4
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto
2Ki 17:13
Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.
God seeks commandment keepers, not religious hypocrites.
Mat 24:48
But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming, And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken, The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Rev. 14: 12 "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Of the 10 Commandments of God the 4th states;
Jesus says, "If you love me, keep my commandments." John 15:15 & 21 He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
1. Jesus Affirmed the Law's Continuity
2. Love for Jesus Expressed Through Obedience
3. The Nature of God's Commandments
4. Sin Defined as Transgression of the Law
5. Jesus Kept His Father's Commandments
6. The Two Great Commandments Encompass the Ten
7. The Ten Commandments Themselves
- Summary ....
- The Ten Commandments are "the measure of the righteousness of God"
- Jesus "kept his Father's commandments"—the same ten commandments from Sinai
- The moral law remains unchanged in its content
- Christ demonstrated through His earthly life how to live out the Ten Commandments through love
- The moral law of the Ten Commandments remains binding on Christians
- Jesus affirmed and fulfilled the law rather than abolishing it
- The two great commandments (love for God and neighbor) encapsulate the spirit of the Decalogue
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You continue to confuse justification and sanctification and should not be trying to teach anyone as that is the case.
Jesus did not die so we could repent of our sins. If that is what you believe, you should join the SDA crowd.
Our sins are forgiven when we accept Jesus as our Savior. At that point we are justified. Santification is the process that occurs throughtout our lifetime as we grow in Christ. Huge difference.
Something wrong with you. This was addressed to Israel PRIOR to Jesus dying on our behalf. The new heart and spirit (actually our spirits are alive in Christ) is not indicative of anything we do or do not do.
I reject what you say. It is not the truth and before you go all Old Testament prophet on me, you have no ability to judge me. You cannot even keep scripture in its context nor do you understand that Gentiles never were given the law. Sadly, seems to be a growing theme in this forum.
NO HE DOES NOT!!! GOD SEEKS THOSE WHO LOVE HIM AND DESIRE TO LIVE FOR HIM. THE LORD JESUS CHRIST DIED BECAUSE WE
CANNOT CANNOT CANNOT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
We are not ancient Israel. But you go ahead and play law keeping. If you are playing law keeping, you are no longer considered by God to be without sin and therefore are guilty.
People have told you this over and over and over and you just reject it, no matter how much scripture is given to support those facts so it seems to be beyond your underestanding. Maybe you should repent of false doctrine and pray you understand true doctrine.
Your accusations are false. Your judgement is wrong and you do not, apparently, understand why Jesus died on our behalf.
25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit {5661} eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
my question to my Master, my Lord Jesus Christ -- how am I to love you? what must I do to show Love for you?
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
THE Son of God tells me if I truly LOVE Him I will show, demonstrate, prove that love by obeying His commandments and then I can enter into Life eternal with Him.
I think it best to believe the Son of God that made everything that has been made -- including man -- and not men of which there is not one good.
I have turned over my life as a living sacrifice to My Master --- to live by every WORD out of the mouth of my Master Jesus Christ, who gave His life that I may live.
SALVATION COME BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE
Jn 3:
14 Just as Moses lifted up the [bronze] serpent in the desert [on a pole], so must the Son of Man be lifted up [on the cross],
15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life [after physical death, and will actually live forever].
16 “For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge and condemn the world [that is, to initiate the final judgment of the world], but that the world might be saved through Him.
18 Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged [for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation];
(NOTE: The result is stated four times: Whoever believes > has eternal life > shall not perish & is not condemned. The condition is BELIEF. The outcome is ETERNAL LIFE & the ground is Christ being lifted up (up on the cross & from the grave). Nothing here is states: probation, performance, obedience or endurance requirements. It is simply hear > BELIEVE > receive eternal life.)
THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST - 1 CORINTHIANS 15
1 Cor 15:
1 Now brothers and sisters, let me remind you [once again] of the good news [of salvation] which I preached to you, which you welcomed and accepted and on which you stand [by faith].
2 By this faith you are saved [reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose], if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain [just superficially and without complete commitment].
3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],
4 and that He was buried, and that He was [bodily] raised on the third day according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold]
(NOTE: The gospel/good news is Jesus died for your sins (paid sins wage/Rom 6:23), was buried (proof he died) & roses on the 3 day (Fathers receipt My Sons sin payment received & accepted & stamped PAID In FULL)
Titus 2:11 For the [remarkable, undeserved] grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
(NOTE: FIRST IMPORTANCE: Christ died for our sins, was buried & rose again for our justification (Rom 4:25). The gospel of Jesus Christ is: HE died > was buried & rose again. His resurrection is the Father's receipt stamped, sins required wage PAID IN FULL.)
Titus 2:11 For the [remarkable, undeserved] grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
(NOTE: Grace is not a system. Grace is Christ Himself. Salvation is brought by Him, not earned by us.)
JUSTIFIED BY FAITH
Rom 5:
1 Therefore, since we have been justified [that is, acquitted of sin, declared blameless before God] by faith, [let us grasp the fact that] we have peace with God [and the joy of reconciliation with Him] through our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed).
2 Through Him we also have access by faith into this [remarkable state of] grace in which we [firmly and safely and securely] stand. Let us rejoice in our hope and the confident assurance of [experiencing and enjoying] the glory of [our great] God [the manifestation of His excellence and power].
(NOTE: Faith is the conduit, grace is the ground, Christ is the access point. We stand in grace - NOT wobble in works.)
Rom 3:
22 This righteousness of God comes through faith in Jesus Christ for all those [Jew or Gentile] who believe [and trust in Him and acknowledge Him as God’s Son]. There is no distinction,
23 since all have sinned and continually fall short of the glory of God,
24 and are being justified [declared free of the guilt of sin, made acceptable to God, and granted eternal life] as a gift by His [precious, undeserved] grace, through the redemption [the payment for our sin] which is [provided] in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God displayed publicly [before the eyes of the world] as a [life-giving] sacrifice of atonement and reconciliation (propitiation) by His blood [to be received] through faith
Gal 2:16 yet we know that a man is not justified [and placed in right standing with God] by works of the Law, but [only] through faith in [God’s beloved Son,] Christ Jesus. And even we [as Jews] have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law.
Acts 2:21 ‘AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD [invoking, adoring, and worshiping the Lord Jesus] SHALL BE SAVED (rescued spiritually).’
Rom 10:
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” [d] that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim:
9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
Rom 10:13 For “WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD [in prayer] WILL BE SAVED.”
(NOTE: Calling = invoking, appealing to, trusting in the Lord Jesus. No works. No probation. No endurance. Calling > Saved.)
Summery
Believe > eternal life (Jn 3), Jesus death & resurrection (1 Cor 15:1-4), Grace appearing (Titus 2), Justified by faith (Rom 3 & 5, Gal 2). All proclaim the same gospel: salvation is received by believing in Christ's sin‑atoning death & resurrection, not by our performance, our obedience, probation, or endurance. Faith accesses grace. Christ saves. Eternal life is the result.
ASKING FOR ETERNAL LIFE
Acts 4:10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew [about] God’s gift [of eternal life], and who it is who says, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him [instead], and He would have given you living water (eternal life).
(NOTE The Samaritan woman was living in sin. Jesus did not say: Fix your life 1st. He said: Identify who I am > Ask > Receive eternal life.
Lk 11:13 “If you, then, being evil [that is, sinful by nature], know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”
(NOTE: Jesus ties the giving of the Holy Spirit to asking, not to obedience, endurance, performance, ritual or law keeping. Ask > Receive the Holy Spirit.)
THE 1ST GENTILES ENTER NEW COVENANT
Acts 10:
44 “All the prophets testify about Him, that through His name everyone who believes in Him [whoever trusts in and relies on Him, accepting Him as Savior and Messiah] receives forgiveness of sins.”
45 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all those who were listening to the message [confirming God’s acceptance of Gentiles].
46 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles.
(NOTE: Jesus alone baptizes with the Spirit (Matt 3:11, Lk 3:16) These Gentiles received the FOREVER indwelling Holy Spirit (Jn 14:16). No circumcision. No water baptism. No obedience requirements. No endurance requirements. No performance requirements. Hear > Believe > Receive)
COMFIRMING VERSES
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, when you heard the word of truth, the good news of your salvation, and [as a result] believed in Him, were stamped with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit [the One promised by Christ] as owned and protected [by God].
Eph 2:
8 For it is by grace [God’s remarkable compassion and favor drawing you to Christ] that you have been saved [actually delivered from judgment and given eternal life] through faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [not through your own effort], but it is the [undeserved, gracious] gift of God;
9 not as a result of [your] works [nor your attempts to keep the Law], so that no one will [be able to] boast or take credit in any way [for his salvation].
SUMMERY #2
Scripture consistently teaches that salvation & the Holy Spirit are received by: calling (Acts 2:21 & Rom 10:13), asking (Jn 4:10 & Lk 11:13), believing (1 Cor 15:1-4 & Jn 3:14-18) & NOT by: performing, enduring, obeying, working or maintaining.
THE POST‑ACTS‑10 CHALLENGE: THE BODY‑OF‑CHRIST SALVATION PATTERN
Once Acts 10 establishes the Gentile pattern, the New Testament never again ties justification or Holy Spirit baptism to anything but faith. If anyone claims otherwise, let them produce a single post‑Acts‑10 verse where salvation is conditioned on something other than believing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jn 3:
14 Just as Moses lifted up the [bronze] serpent in the desert [on a pole], so must the Son of Man be lifted up [on the cross],
15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life [after physical death, and will actually live forever].
16 “For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge and condemn the world [that is, to initiate the final judgment of the world], but that the world might be saved through Him.
18 Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged [for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation];
(NOTE: The result is stated four times: Whoever believes > has eternal life > shall not perish & is not condemned. The condition is BELIEF. The outcome is ETERNAL LIFE & the ground is Christ being lifted up (up on the cross & from the grave). Nothing here is states: probation, performance, obedience or endurance requirements. It is simply hear > BELIEVE > receive eternal life.)
THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST - 1 CORINTHIANS 15
1 Cor 15:
1 Now brothers and sisters, let me remind you [once again] of the good news [of salvation] which I preached to you, which you welcomed and accepted and on which you stand [by faith].
2 By this faith you are saved [reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose], if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain [just superficially and without complete commitment].
3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],
4 and that He was buried, and that He was [bodily] raised on the third day according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold]
(NOTE: The gospel/good news is Jesus died for your sins (paid sins wage/Rom 6:23), was buried (proof he died) & roses on the 3 day (Fathers receipt My Sons sin payment received & accepted & stamped PAID In FULL)
Titus 2:11 For the [remarkable, undeserved] grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
(NOTE: FIRST IMPORTANCE: Christ died for our sins, was buried & rose again for our justification (Rom 4:25). The gospel of Jesus Christ is: HE died > was buried & rose again. His resurrection is the Father's receipt stamped, sins required wage PAID IN FULL.)
Titus 2:11 For the [remarkable, undeserved] grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
(NOTE: Grace is not a system. Grace is Christ Himself. Salvation is brought by Him, not earned by us.)
JUSTIFIED BY FAITH
Rom 5:
1 Therefore, since we have been justified [that is, acquitted of sin, declared blameless before God] by faith, [let us grasp the fact that] we have peace with God [and the joy of reconciliation with Him] through our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed).
2 Through Him we also have access by faith into this [remarkable state of] grace in which we [firmly and safely and securely] stand. Let us rejoice in our hope and the confident assurance of [experiencing and enjoying] the glory of [our great] God [the manifestation of His excellence and power].
(NOTE: Faith is the conduit, grace is the ground, Christ is the access point. We stand in grace - NOT wobble in works.)
Rom 3:
22 This righteousness of God comes through faith in Jesus Christ for all those [Jew or Gentile] who believe [and trust in Him and acknowledge Him as God’s Son]. There is no distinction,
23 since all have sinned and continually fall short of the glory of God,
24 and are being justified [declared free of the guilt of sin, made acceptable to God, and granted eternal life] as a gift by His [precious, undeserved] grace, through the redemption [the payment for our sin] which is [provided] in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God displayed publicly [before the eyes of the world] as a [life-giving] sacrifice of atonement and reconciliation (propitiation) by His blood [to be received] through faith
Gal 2:16 yet we know that a man is not justified [and placed in right standing with God] by works of the Law, but [only] through faith in [God’s beloved Son,] Christ Jesus. And even we [as Jews] have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law.
Acts 2:21 ‘AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD [invoking, adoring, and worshiping the Lord Jesus] SHALL BE SAVED (rescued spiritually).’
Rom 10:
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” [d] that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim:
9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
Rom 10:13 For “WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD [in prayer] WILL BE SAVED.”
(NOTE: Calling = invoking, appealing to, trusting in the Lord Jesus. No works. No probation. No endurance. Calling > Saved.)
Summery
Believe > eternal life (Jn 3), Jesus death & resurrection (1 Cor 15:1-4), Grace appearing (Titus 2), Justified by faith (Rom 3 & 5, Gal 2). All proclaim the same gospel: salvation is received by believing in Christ's sin‑atoning death & resurrection, not by our performance, our obedience, probation, or endurance. Faith accesses grace. Christ saves. Eternal life is the result.
ASKING FOR ETERNAL LIFE
Acts 4:10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew [about] God’s gift [of eternal life], and who it is who says, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him [instead], and He would have given you living water (eternal life).
(NOTE The Samaritan woman was living in sin. Jesus did not say: Fix your life 1st. He said: Identify who I am > Ask > Receive eternal life.
Lk 11:13 “If you, then, being evil [that is, sinful by nature], know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”
(NOTE: Jesus ties the giving of the Holy Spirit to asking, not to obedience, endurance, performance, ritual or law keeping. Ask > Receive the Holy Spirit.)
THE 1ST GENTILES ENTER NEW COVENANT
Acts 10:
44 “All the prophets testify about Him, that through His name everyone who believes in Him [whoever trusts in and relies on Him, accepting Him as Savior and Messiah] receives forgiveness of sins.”
45 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all those who were listening to the message [confirming God’s acceptance of Gentiles].
46 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles.
(NOTE: Jesus alone baptizes with the Spirit (Matt 3:11, Lk 3:16) These Gentiles received the FOREVER indwelling Holy Spirit (Jn 14:16). No circumcision. No water baptism. No obedience requirements. No endurance requirements. No performance requirements. Hear > Believe > Receive)
COMFIRMING VERSES
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, when you heard the word of truth, the good news of your salvation, and [as a result] believed in Him, were stamped with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit [the One promised by Christ] as owned and protected [by God].
Eph 2:
8 For it is by grace [God’s remarkable compassion and favor drawing you to Christ] that you have been saved [actually delivered from judgment and given eternal life] through faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [not through your own effort], but it is the [undeserved, gracious] gift of God;
9 not as a result of [your] works [nor your attempts to keep the Law], so that no one will [be able to] boast or take credit in any way [for his salvation].
SUMMERY #2
Scripture consistently teaches that salvation & the Holy Spirit are received by: calling (Acts 2:21 & Rom 10:13), asking (Jn 4:10 & Lk 11:13), believing (1 Cor 15:1-4 & Jn 3:14-18) & NOT by: performing, enduring, obeying, working or maintaining.
THE POST‑ACTS‑10 CHALLENGE: THE BODY‑OF‑CHRIST SALVATION PATTERN
Once Acts 10 establishes the Gentile pattern, the New Testament never again ties justification or Holy Spirit baptism to anything but faith. If anyone claims otherwise, let them produce a single post‑Acts‑10 verse where salvation is conditioned on something other than believing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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THE NT TRINITARIAN STRUCTURE MAKES LOSS OF SALVATION IMPOSSIBLE
The New Testament grounds eternal security in the irreversible saving actions of the Triune God: The Son's once‑for‑all justifying-Holy Spirit baptism, the Father's legal declaration of righteousness bases on faith in Christ' sin-atoning death & resurrection & the Holy Spirit's forever indwelling, sealing & guaranteeing ministry. These 3 divine acts secure the believer's eternal life.
Romans 11:29, God's gifts and calling are irrevocable.
(NOTE: What God gives, He does not take back. What God calls, He does not un‑call. What God seals, He does not un‑seal. Loss of salvation would require: reversing the Son's initiating act, overturning the Father's legal declaration, breaking the Holy Spirit's eternal seal. No NT text teaches any of this.
THE PROMISE
Lk 24:49 Jesus said; behold, I send ""the promise"" of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high
(NOTE: Jesus teaches he will send THE PROMISE the Father made to him)
Acts 1:
4 While being together and eating with them, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Of which,” He said, “you have heard Me speak.
(NOTE: Jesus tells them to wait in Jerusalem for what the Father had PROMISED)
5 For John baptized with water, but you will be baptized and empowered and united with the Holy Spirit, not long from now.”
(NOTE: Jesus foretells of baptism of His salvation sealing (2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, Eph 4:4, 4:30), forever indwelling (Jn 14:16) Holy Spirit to come)
THE PROMISE fulfilled:
Acts 2:
1 When the day of [a]Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place
(NOTE: Temple MT 50 Days after Christ's resurrection)
3 There appeared to them tongues resembling fire, which were being distributed [among them], and they rested on each one of them [as each person received the Holy Spirit]
(NOTE: Each one of them receives the PROMISE (Lk 24:49) God' eternally indwelling salvation-sealing Holy Spirit]
4 And they were all filled [that is, diffused throughout their being] with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues (different languages), as the Spirit was giving them the ability to speak out [clearly and appropriately].
(NOTE: Here the PROMISE is fulfilled. Believers receive Christ's promised baptism with His salvation‑sealing, forever‑indwelling Spirit.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear
(NOTE: 50 days after His glorification/resurrection. Christ sends the PROMISE given to Him by the Father-the forever (Jn 14:16) indwelling Holy Spirit.
2 Tim 1:14 Guard [with greatest care] and keep unchanged, the treasure [that precious truth] which has been entrusted to you [that is, the good news about salvation through personal faith in Christ Jesus], through [the help of] the Holy Spirit who dwells in us.
(NOTE: Present tense - the Holy Spirit dwelling in us is God's deposit.
2 Cor 5:5 Now He who has made us and prepared us for this very purpose is God, who gave us the [Holy] Spirit as a pledge [a guarantee, a down payment on the fulfillment of His promise].
(MY NOTE: God has given PAST TENSE/DONE DEAL)
2 Cor 1:22 it is He who has also put His seal on us [that is, He has appropriated us and certified us as His] and has given us the [Holy] Spirit in our hearts as a pledge [like a security deposit to guarantee the fulfillment of His promise of eternal life].
(NOTE: God's seal, pledge & deposit remain until our final redemption/Glorified Body)
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, when you heard the word of truth, the good news of your salvation, and [as a result] believed in Him, were stamped with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit [the One promised by Christ] as owned and protected [by God].
(NOTE: Sealed at belief PAST TENSE/DONE DEAL)
Eph1:14 The Spirit is the guarantee [the first installment, the pledge, a foretaste] of our inheritance until the redemption of God’s own [purchased] possession [His believers], to the praise of His glory.
(NOTE: The Spirit is God's down payment guaranteeing final redemption/Glorified Body).)
Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God [but seek to please Him], by whom you were sealed and marked [branded as God’s own] for the day of redemption [the final deliverance from the consequences of sin].
(NOTE: Sealed until the day of redemption, not until your next failure. The believers in Cornelius' house (Acts 10) received the PROMISE-the Holy Spirit ""at the moment of faith"" & that is how every member of the Body of Christ receives eternal life today: hear > believe > sealed > guaranteed until the day of redemption.
1 Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
(MY NOTE: Present tense believers HAVE eternal life now!)
SYNOPSIS
Believer, Jesus Christ Himself pours out the Holy Spirit: who cleanses, transforms, regenerates & continually renews you (Titus 3:5–6). Through this Holy Spirit‑wrought work, Christs Spirit baptism justifies you, the Father declares you righteous & you become an heir of eternal life (Titus 3:7). You are already experiencing eternal life now because His Spirit in you is His guarantee. Through His sinless shed blood, Christ purchased the forgiveness of all your sins—past, present & future, according to the riches of His grace (Eph 1:7).
LOSS-OF-SALVATION THEOLOGY COLLAPSES UNDER ITS OWN WEIGHT
To affirm loss of salvation, one must affirm: Christ's once‑for‑all act is reversible - God's legal declaration can be overturned - The Holy Spirit's seal can be broken - The Holy Spirit's FOREVER indwelling is not forever - The guarantee does not guarantee - Eternal life is not eternal. No NT author teaches any of this.
THE GLORY OF CHRIST WHO SECURES HIS OWN
Jesus Christ is: the Creator (Jn 1:3), the Redeemer who gave Himself for our sins (Gal 1:4), the Mediator between God & humanity (Heb 9:15), the One who indwells believers (Rom 8:9-11), the Sustainer who keeps us to the end (1 Cor 1:8), the righteous Judge of all (Jn 5:22), the faithful & gracious Lord who never abandons His own (2 Tim 2:13 & Heb 13:5). He is the Alpha & the Omega (Rev 22:13) & all who trust Him rest in His finished work, His present intercession & His eternal faithfulness. All praise, glory & honor belong to Him. Amen.
FINAL CHALLENGE TO LOSS‑OF‑SALVATION THEOLOGY
If anyone claims salvation can be lost, the burden of proof is simple & unavoidable: Produce a single verse - anywhere in the New Testament - that shows any Person of the Trinity reversing His own saving act.
Specifically: A verse where Christ un‑baptizes a believer from the Holy Spirit (undoing His forever indwelling salvation sealing act)
A verse where the Father reverses His legal declaration of righteousness (overturning His own sovereign declaration)
A verse where the Holy Spirit breaks His own seal, stops abiding forever, or cancels His guarantee (nullifying His eternal ministry)
NOTE: These are the 3 pillars of salvation in the NT - Christ's initiating act, the Father's legal declaration & the Spirit's sealing/indwelling/guaranteeing work. If salvation can be lost, Scripture must show God undoing what God Himself has done. No NT author ever teaches this.
Until such a verse is produced - loss‑of‑salvation theology remains a system built on assumptions, not Scripture.
THE NT TRINITARIAN STRUCTURE MAKES LOSS OF SALVATION IMPOSSIBLE
The New Testament grounds eternal security in the irreversible saving actions of the Triune God: The Son's once‑for‑all justifying-Holy Spirit baptism, the Father's legal declaration of righteousness bases on faith in Christ' sin-atoning death & resurrection & the Holy Spirit's forever indwelling, sealing & guaranteeing ministry. These 3 divine acts secure the believer's eternal life.
Romans 11:29, God's gifts and calling are irrevocable.
(NOTE: What God gives, He does not take back. What God calls, He does not un‑call. What God seals, He does not un‑seal. Loss of salvation would require: reversing the Son's initiating act, overturning the Father's legal declaration, breaking the Holy Spirit's eternal seal. No NT text teaches any of this.
THE PROMISE
Lk 24:49 Jesus said; behold, I send ""the promise"" of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high
(NOTE: Jesus teaches he will send THE PROMISE the Father made to him)
Acts 1:
4 While being together and eating with them, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Of which,” He said, “you have heard Me speak.
(NOTE: Jesus tells them to wait in Jerusalem for what the Father had PROMISED)
5 For John baptized with water, but you will be baptized and empowered and united with the Holy Spirit, not long from now.”
(NOTE: Jesus foretells of baptism of His salvation sealing (2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, Eph 4:4, 4:30), forever indwelling (Jn 14:16) Holy Spirit to come)
THE PROMISE fulfilled:
Acts 2:
1 When the day of [a]Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place
(NOTE: Temple MT 50 Days after Christ's resurrection)
3 There appeared to them tongues resembling fire, which were being distributed [among them], and they rested on each one of them [as each person received the Holy Spirit]
(NOTE: Each one of them receives the PROMISE (Lk 24:49) God' eternally indwelling salvation-sealing Holy Spirit]
4 And they were all filled [that is, diffused throughout their being] with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues (different languages), as the Spirit was giving them the ability to speak out [clearly and appropriately].
(NOTE: Here the PROMISE is fulfilled. Believers receive Christ's promised baptism with His salvation‑sealing, forever‑indwelling Spirit.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear
(NOTE: 50 days after His glorification/resurrection. Christ sends the PROMISE given to Him by the Father-the forever (Jn 14:16) indwelling Holy Spirit.
2 Tim 1:14 Guard [with greatest care] and keep unchanged, the treasure [that precious truth] which has been entrusted to you [that is, the good news about salvation through personal faith in Christ Jesus], through [the help of] the Holy Spirit who dwells in us.
(NOTE: Present tense - the Holy Spirit dwelling in us is God's deposit.
2 Cor 5:5 Now He who has made us and prepared us for this very purpose is God, who gave us the [Holy] Spirit as a pledge [a guarantee, a down payment on the fulfillment of His promise].
(MY NOTE: God has given PAST TENSE/DONE DEAL)
2 Cor 1:22 it is He who has also put His seal on us [that is, He has appropriated us and certified us as His] and has given us the [Holy] Spirit in our hearts as a pledge [like a security deposit to guarantee the fulfillment of His promise of eternal life].
(NOTE: God's seal, pledge & deposit remain until our final redemption/Glorified Body)
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, when you heard the word of truth, the good news of your salvation, and [as a result] believed in Him, were stamped with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit [the One promised by Christ] as owned and protected [by God].
(NOTE: Sealed at belief PAST TENSE/DONE DEAL)
Eph1:14 The Spirit is the guarantee [the first installment, the pledge, a foretaste] of our inheritance until the redemption of God’s own [purchased] possession [His believers], to the praise of His glory.
(NOTE: The Spirit is God's down payment guaranteeing final redemption/Glorified Body).)
Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God [but seek to please Him], by whom you were sealed and marked [branded as God’s own] for the day of redemption [the final deliverance from the consequences of sin].
(NOTE: Sealed until the day of redemption, not until your next failure. The believers in Cornelius' house (Acts 10) received the PROMISE-the Holy Spirit ""at the moment of faith"" & that is how every member of the Body of Christ receives eternal life today: hear > believe > sealed > guaranteed until the day of redemption.
1 Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
(MY NOTE: Present tense believers HAVE eternal life now!)
SYNOPSIS
Believer, Jesus Christ Himself pours out the Holy Spirit: who cleanses, transforms, regenerates & continually renews you (Titus 3:5–6). Through this Holy Spirit‑wrought work, Christs Spirit baptism justifies you, the Father declares you righteous & you become an heir of eternal life (Titus 3:7). You are already experiencing eternal life now because His Spirit in you is His guarantee. Through His sinless shed blood, Christ purchased the forgiveness of all your sins—past, present & future, according to the riches of His grace (Eph 1:7).
LOSS-OF-SALVATION THEOLOGY COLLAPSES UNDER ITS OWN WEIGHT
To affirm loss of salvation, one must affirm: Christ's once‑for‑all act is reversible - God's legal declaration can be overturned - The Holy Spirit's seal can be broken - The Holy Spirit's FOREVER indwelling is not forever - The guarantee does not guarantee - Eternal life is not eternal. No NT author teaches any of this.
THE GLORY OF CHRIST WHO SECURES HIS OWN
Jesus Christ is: the Creator (Jn 1:3), the Redeemer who gave Himself for our sins (Gal 1:4), the Mediator between God & humanity (Heb 9:15), the One who indwells believers (Rom 8:9-11), the Sustainer who keeps us to the end (1 Cor 1:8), the righteous Judge of all (Jn 5:22), the faithful & gracious Lord who never abandons His own (2 Tim 2:13 & Heb 13:5). He is the Alpha & the Omega (Rev 22:13) & all who trust Him rest in His finished work, His present intercession & His eternal faithfulness. All praise, glory & honor belong to Him. Amen.
FINAL CHALLENGE TO LOSS‑OF‑SALVATION THEOLOGY
If anyone claims salvation can be lost, the burden of proof is simple & unavoidable: Produce a single verse - anywhere in the New Testament - that shows any Person of the Trinity reversing His own saving act.
Specifically: A verse where Christ un‑baptizes a believer from the Holy Spirit (undoing His forever indwelling salvation sealing act)
A verse where the Father reverses His legal declaration of righteousness (overturning His own sovereign declaration)
A verse where the Holy Spirit breaks His own seal, stops abiding forever, or cancels His guarantee (nullifying His eternal ministry)
NOTE: These are the 3 pillars of salvation in the NT - Christ's initiating act, the Father's legal declaration & the Spirit's sealing/indwelling/guaranteeing work. If salvation can be lost, Scripture must show God undoing what God Himself has done. No NT author ever teaches this.
Until such a verse is produced - loss‑of‑salvation theology remains a system built on assumptions, not Scripture.
There's alot of "I I I" in your post. Is that because you do not understand that Christ finished the necessity of trying to keep the law and animal sacrifice?
We love God when we accept His gift to us and do not try to take the Savior's place with our own self-righteousness.
He's not said that. Only that he's ceased "bodily sins" whatever that means. Otherwise he's only implied with inuendo that he no longer sins. I'm not finding any credibility here. Just the normal defensiveness from someone who's claim is being challenged. Equivication when asked directly is also a sign that not all is right.
Consider the tone in which someone writes, the underlying message, the feel of the words, consider these things as you also consider the description of the one who is walking in the Spirit, the Holy Spirit bearing He fruit in our lives,
Galatians 5:22-23 LITV
22) But the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,
23) meekness, self-control. Against such things there is not a law.
and ask . . . I this what I'm seeing here?
Much love!
Oh ok. I guess you're right.
However, I'll interpret it to include the eyewash of 'spiritual' genuflection, signs and wonders.
Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Transgressors need to do less virtue signaling, and more repenting.
No one breaking any commandment of God is justified by Christ. At least not by Jesus Christ the righteous. The fact that even this is argued against for faith-alone justification says it all...
Rom 16:18
And by good words of fair signs deceive the hearts of the simple. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more trasngression.
Still don't read any sabbath command in NT doctrine and law of Christ.
Jesus was a faithful Jew keeping His own OT 4th commandment with the nation of Jews.
Both outward circumcision and sabbath commanders are judaizers.
At least the circumcision Judaizers were all circumcised. Modern sabbath Judaizers still don't keep their own sabbath.
Still waiting for your congregational answer:
Does your congregation preach against anyone holding any gvt/commercial/corporate/contract careers, that requires working on your sabbath day? Does your congregation keep no company with anyone, that continues to hold any gvt/commercial/corporate/contract careers, and continues to work on your sabbath day?
Until then, If I want to hear from sabbath commanders, then it will at least have to be from sabbath keepers, not play-sabbath posers.
Mat 23:2
Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Hypocrites love to hear themselves command a sabbath, but not command to keep it.
Great format, lousy doctrine. And hypocrisy of posing commanders, not congregational doers.
You continue to confuse God's whole justification and your partial sanctification and should not be trying to teach anyone as that is the justification and sanctification of Jesus Christ.
Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Jerem 3:10
And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the LORD.
Hosea{7:8}
Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.
Rev 3:15
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth
True. Not for the righteous, but only for sinners to repent for His righteousness:
Mar 2:17
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Mark{1:15}
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
It is made clear by Scripture, and now also by confession, that the unrepented do not believe the gospel of Jesus Christ the righteous. But instead the gospel of their own righteousness by faith-alone without repentance.
And so, you are absolutely correct, Jesus did not die for you to repent, because you are righteous by your faith alone, and need not repent. He also did not die for devils to repent::
Jas 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Thank you. I will keep your quote to end all debate with them, that are the righteous by faith alone without repentance.
Matth 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned…for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
Heb 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
If that is what you believe, you are part of the unrepentant transgressors crowd.
Rom 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
Despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: …For there is no respect of persons with God.
Rev 2:14
But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
Jesus Christ doesn't need your acceptance. Transgressors need His acceptance by repenting of your transgressions.
And righteous by your own faith-alone, and have no need to repent from sinning against Jesus.
Mar 2:17
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Mark{1:15}
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
At that point without repentance, you are justified by yourselves through your own faith alone.
Whether the righteous by faith alone or by works alone, that repent not, they do not believe the gospel of Jesus Christ the righteous, who only comes for sinners to repent.
Progressive sanctification is the process of transgressors throughout their lifetime of sinning, as they grow less sinful in their own Christian religion, but never cease from sinning.
Huge difference from the whole sanctification and justification in the pure religion of Jesus Christ:
The sinners' moral relevance sanctification of sinning less than before, is not the whole new creation in Christ Jesus the righteous.
2Pe 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Not all unrepented sinners are against them that do repent of sinning and trespassing, but only the self-justifying sinners hate the righteous:
Jhn 15:24
If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
This is now addressed to all men without respect of persons, after Jesus died for sins to be repent of, and is risen again to justify them that repent for His sake:
Acts 17:30
But now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Acts{3:19}
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Sinners that repent not of transgressions cannot believe the gospel of Jesus Christ, nor is Jesus Christ sent to justify them that repent not.
God has not changed His commanded repentance with a whole heart from all transgressions.
Sinners can change God's repentance and sanctification to their own manner, but the half-hearted religion of partial repentance is not the wholly sanctified pure religion of Jesus Christ:
Jas 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God is not sinning; but he that is begotten of God is keeping himself, and that wicked one is not touching him.
Perfect definition of hypocrite religion on the inside, but not on the outside. No heart is pure that is doing evil.
1Sa 24:13
As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:
The heart and spirit of a man is judged by the works we do:
1 Peter {1:15}
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judges according to every man’s work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
Rom 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?...For there is no respect of persons with God.
No soul that sins against God is alive to God:
Ezek 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
God is despised by what you say in the name of His dear Son.
Jde 1:14
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Heb 10:28
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Jhn 12:48
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
1Ti 1:9
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1Jo 5:17
All unrighteousness is sin: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Jas 2:8
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Let's here the concluding theme of righteousness by faith alone without repentance:
1. No need to repent.
2. Christ comes not to them to repent.
3. Half-hearted partial repentance and sanctification.
4. Them that wholly repent and wholly sanctified, have something wrong.
5. Religion is not about what they do.
4. Lawless without law of Christ.
Even as an unrepentant sinner and transgressor, I rejected the hypocrisy of Christian sinners, that said I did not need to repent of my sinning against God and man, but only believe Jesus does not judge me guilty.
Rom 2:23
Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God. For the name of God is blasphemed among the nations through you, as it is written.
Jews having the law alone, and transgressing the law. And now also Christians having faith alone, and transgressing the commandments. They both give cause for the world of sinners to despise the law and faith of Jesus Christ.
1Sa 2:29
Wherefore kick ye at my sacrifice and at mine offering, which I have commanded in my habitation; and honourest thy sons above me, to make yourselves fat with the chiefest of all the offerings of Israel my people?
Wherefore the LORD God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the LORD saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.
