Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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“I understand the scripture references you've shared. And agree that those who have notbeen intentionally blinded must believe in Jesus and obey the gospel commands”

Right.

This is what blinds isreal

“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

( and when any individual israelite repents and turns to Jesus and the gospel the veil is removed )

Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:13-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The entire first church were isralites individually called to believe the gospel . They began preaching to a people who had been blind but some then repented like these three thousand
“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:22, 32-33, 36-41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus death was the culmination of Israel’s blindness they had to reject him in order for him to be crucified and then the gospel sent to all nations them Included. As you see there three thousand isralites priorly who had rejected Jesus repented and accepted Jesus Christ and the gospel and were readily accepted into the church. Along with as the booo continues any gentiles who repented from thier own wrong belief systems and accepted the gospel.
theres bo difference Jews today aren forced to not believe they trust in Moses law and can’t see ost it because they won’t accept Jesus as the messiah promised in the scriptures
theres no salvation for any Jew or gentile without Christ those Jews who rejected him will not be saved they will not inherit anything based on the Old Testament but the curses in it . They won’t inherit the kingdom of God promised in the New Testament either they’ll be like ishmael outcasts intentionally cut out of the inheritance.


Israel’s blindness happened so that the ot could be fulfilled regarding Israel’s rejection of him and then the gospel could be sent to all people as was foretold after his death and resurrection

Throughout the book of acts Jews are repenting and coming to belief of Jesus as well as gentiles. Thier blindness is part of the plan throughout the ot prophets …. But again as long as they individually reject Jesus they have no blessing from God or salvation to come


“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

sad long as an individual Jew rejects Jesus thier lost as well as gentile same result and if they repent and accept Jesus they are the same and will inherit the same inheritance that has been promised to all of Abraham’s children

Being a gentile or Jew according to the flesh doesn’t mean anything …..faith in Christ is all that matters to God concerning our identity
I do understand and agree with many points you are sharing from scripture. However, I also believe scripture that reveals some Jews will remain blinded until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. And as prophesied in Zechariah, Jews will come to repentance.

"And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." Zec. 12:10
 
I do understand and agree with many points you are sharing from scripture. However, I also believe scripture that reveals some Jews will remain blinded until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. And as prophesied in Zechariah, Jews will come to repentance.

"And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." Zec. 12:10
“I do understand and agree with many points you are sharing from scripture. However, I also believe scripture that reveals some Jews will remain blinded until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. And as prophesied in Zechariah, Jews will come to repentance.“


yes many already have repented brother and converted to Christianity and many will yet just as many gentiles will repent and believe also. All I’m saying is as long as Jews remain Jews and looo to Moses law they will remain blinded by it not understanding or recognizing that the gospel is the new covenant promised to the house of Israel

The covenant that promised to pour out Gods spirit full of grace and truth and supplications and righteousness forgivness restoration and hope

The one he promised to put his paws in the people and write them on thier hesrts that’s why hesring and believing the gospel from the heart is required .


Thise prophecies in the ot are foretelling Jesus and the New Testament
“I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications”

That’s what the gospel is about brother

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭

remember how the gospel begins quoting this prophecy ?

Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD's hand double for all her sins. The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: and the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: the grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass. The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:1-8‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Peter is referring to the ot prophets the New Testament has prophecy that’s about the second coming of the messiah the ot was about his first coming


But brother I don’t disagree that after isreel revelled and became blind God bound then over to it n order to work his own land fornthe salvstion of all people . I also don’t disagree that many Jews will repent and convert many did in the Bible but also sonce then and also in the future I’m sure many individual isralites will convert and believe the gospel .


“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

See here about the grafting in it relies on whether they will remain on unbelief or not


“Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: for if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭11:20-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see this isn’t saying this will happen on a mass scale as a sign of the end or anything it’s just saying that israel was cut off because they didn’t believe , but if they don’t abide in unbelief and they repent and believe they can be grafted back in . Gods able to do that . When he says all isreal shall be saved remember he’s already established that isn’t about Israel of the flesh and blood but the children of the promise made to Abraham through Christ Jesus
 
You don't understand the doctrine of the tribulation saints either? Please hit the books. This effort at constantly correcting you is getting embarrassing for me.

[1Co 15:23-24 NKJV]
23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those [who are] Christ's at His coming.

24 Then [comes] the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

The "Harvest" Metaphor
To Paul’s Jewish audience, the "First Resurrection" wasn't a single event but a season.

The Firstfruits: A single sheaf (Christ).
The General Harvest: The main crop (The Church).

The Gleanings: The leftover crops gathered at the very end of the season (The Tribulation Saints).

By including the Revelation 20 saints in this "order," the New Testament completes the picture: no one who belongs to Christ is left behind in the grave before the Millennial Kingdom begins.
Sorry for embarrassing you.
 
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It is indeed important to take a break.
When people deny a g****de that wears on one's soul.

Genocide.....well please explain to me why thousands of Palestinians were at the egypt gate complaining about the slow medical relief that Israel was and did provide.
Or infact let's do a history dive and look at other countries that fed there supposing enimies or tried to each day.
How about those young children taken to Israel hospitals to treat there cancer and other Diseases .
Genocide....I think not.
 
Here's an example of Scofield's poisonous teachings. This is part of the footnote at the bottom of Acts 2 in which Peter said the Joel 2 prophecy about the last days was being fulfilled before their eyes. By that he meant the last days of natural Israel, whether he knew so or not. But Scofield has it exactly backwards by stating the last days of the church began with the Christ's 1st appearance (wut?) and the last days of Israel will be at his 2nd coming. It's just bizarre error that will really screw up a new believers' mind and subvert their faith, as it did to mine.

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I never looked into Scofield's teaching till recently,after hearing cv5 say that John the Baptist failed his ministry/mission.Doe's Scofield have any such mention?
 
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Genocide.....well please explain to me why thousands of Palestinians were at the egypt gate complaining about the slow medical relief that Israel was and did provide.
Or infact let's do a history dive and look at other countries that fed there supposing enimies or tried to each day.
How about those young children taken to Israel hospitals to treat there cancer and other Diseases .
Genocide....I think not.

You do realize that unlike your friends, the ICC and UN security council have to prove their claims publicly in court?
I think even if one rose from the dead and told you that there has been a genocide in Gaza you would call them a terrorist.
Is it against your religion to not believe the Israelis?
 
I never looked into Scofield's teaching till recently,after hearing cv5 say that John the Baptist failed his ministry/mission.Doe's Scofield have any such mention?

I don't know, but editions are available online if you want to pursue that. He may get that idea from Robert Thieme who he follows who was a product of the Dallas Theological Seminary, which has been a primary source of dispensational teaching.
 
Genocide.....well please explain to me why thousands of Palestinians were at the egypt gate complaining about the slow medical relief that Israel was and did provide.
Or infact let's do a history dive and look at other countries that fed there supposing enimies or tried to each day.
How about those young children taken to Israel hospitals to treat there cancer and other Diseases .
Genocide....I think not.
What is it a genocide of one's own people called? Hate is self-concerned as much as it is also self-destructive. Are there any accounts of Israeli's being cared for in their enemies' camps?
 
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Genocide.....well please explain to me why thousands of Palestinians were at the egypt gate complaining about the slow medical relief that Israel was and did provide.
Or infact let's do a history dive and look at other countries that fed there supposing enimies or tried to each day.
How about those young children taken to Israel hospitals to treat there cancer and other Diseases .
Genocide....I think not.

Start at the beginning with the stolen land.
 
I don't know, but editions are available online if you want to pursue that. He may get that idea from Robert Thieme who he follows who was a product of the Dallas Theological Seminary, which has been a primary source of dispensational teaching.

Hmm .. did not know this.
 
What is it a genocide of one's own people called? Hate is self-concerned as much as it is also self-destructive. Are there any accounts of Israeli's being cared for in their enemies' camps?


It's terribly simple if I'm going to unalive you do I call you and say, "hey, at 12 high noon tomorrow, I'm going to unalive you so you might want to leave town"? Israel has more than one way to let people know they are coming and where they are going to be. No other country in the world does that, nor is any other country held to that standard, and here they are still bashing them. They badly want the propaganda from the terrorists and their UN backers to be true. It simply isn't. No one now is even talking about Palestinians. They changed their flags and signs to Iran already. We call these people virtue signalers. Half of them couldn't find Israel or Iran on a map. Their opinions and support change with the wind.
 
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It's terribly simple if I'm going to unalive you do I call you and say, "hey, at 12 high noon tomorrow, I'm going to unalive you so you might want to leave town"? Israel has more than one way to let people know they are coming and where they are going to be. No other country in the world does that, nor is any other country held to that standard, and here they are still bashing them.
Hmm, it makes me think that they must've have adopted that protocol from a caring God or something. :unsure:

They badly want the propaganda from the terrorists and their UN backers to be true. It simply isn't. No one now is even talking about Palestinians. They changed their flags and signs to Iran already. We call these people virtue signalers. Half of them couldn't find Israel or Iran on a map. Their opinions and support change with the wind.
Zechariah and Elizabeth's incorporated names mean, "God has remembered God's promise," which will not change.
 
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You do realize that unlike your friends, the ICC and UN security council have to prove their claims publicly in court?
I think even if one rose from the dead and told you that there has been a genocide in Gaza you would call them a terrorist.
Is it against your religion to not believe the Israelis?
Have you ever heard of Fake News/Propaganda? Funny how some can deny the genocide of over 6 million people (aimed at Jews mainly) yet quick to call genocide on Israel who's goal is to defend itself from those set on wiping Israel off the map.
 
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Hmm, it makes me think that they must've have adopted that protocol from a caring God or something. :unsure:


Zechariah and Elizabeth's incorporated names mean, "God has remembered God's promise," which will not change.


That's an excellent point!
 
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Have you ever heard of Fake News/Propaganda? Funny how some can deny the genocide of over 6 million people (aimed at Jews mainly) yet quick to call genocide on Israel who's goal is to defend itself from those set on wiping Israel off the map.

I have already posted the court findings of the Security Council and the ICC on this forum, and will not post them again for the willfully blind.
I have a theory that modern Israel enthusiasts are indeed willfully blind when it comes to the subject, and I am seeing confirmation of this here.
So often I read IDF talking points here with the expectation that they must be believed without proof.
By referring to the Holocaust you seem to suggest that it is immoral to demand evidence for Israeli claims.
This is the type of darkness that you hide under.
The objective is cloaked in religion but it is a political one, so truth and ethics are not a priority.
God's mercy comes with repentance, but the one denying a genocide this time is not me.
 
Actually, the truth will set you free, I praise God each day HE set me free from the Darby/Scofield dispensational lies.
And bonus the Bible makes so much more sense.
Saying Darby "invented" dispensationalism is like saying Isaac Newton "invented" gravity; gravity was always operating, but Newton was the one who formulated the mathematical framework to describe it. For the dispensationalist, Darby simply systematized what Jesus, Paul, and the prophets had already laid out in the text of Holy Scripture.
 
Saying Darby "invented" dispensationalism is like saying Isaac Newton "invented" gravity; gravity was always operating, but Newton was the one who formulated the mathematical framework to describe it. For the dispensationalist, Darby simply systematized what Jesus, Paul, and the prophets had already laid out in the text of Holy Scripture.
Great analogy.

His word is LIVING and ever expanding......To say the early teachers had it all figured out??

We will still find new truths in His word. It will never end........We have just seen/known the tip of the iceberg of His word since creation.

New revelations are always coming.
 
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