Replacement theology? Yes or No.

[Churchgoer]

Mohamed used a mixture of Judaism and Christianity to form a religion. No one was much interested. So he turned to extreme violence to impose his religion on North Africa. He kept changing the Quran to justify his wickedness. One example: early in the Quran, Jews and Christians were called "people of the book". Since they had their own relationship with God, Mohamed said that they should consult their own teachings.

By the end of the Quran, Mo was demanding death for anyone who refused to accept his dead religion. This makes it very useful for modern Muslims. They can claim that Islam is the religion of peace and point to early writings. Others reject this and use later writings to justify murdering anyone who rejects Islam.

It is not Jews who are in the streets demanding the imposition of Jewish law and customs on the nations. It was not Jews who raped thousand of young girls in the UK, while the police turned a blind eye. Jewish law does not permit rape of non Jews. The Quran condones rape as a weapon.

People like you are part of the reason why the West is being invaded by the followers of a mass murdering paedophile. Jews have been persecuted in Europe for centuries. The whole point of creating a homeland for Jews was to get them somewhere safe to live. They've had to fight for that since 1948. And that is entirely due to the "religion of peace".

God has allowed Islam to invade the West. Since the West has turned against Israel, Europe and other nations are discovering what Israelis have known for nearly 80 years. Muslims do not come to take part. They come to take over. And in the UK, that is pretty much done. America is headed that way. Few countries in Europe have stood up to Islam. Poland is one exception.

Sure, the Irgun used violence to gain what the UN promised them. That's because the British were beginning to reneg. I don't condone violence, but in the context of history, I understand it. You need to accept that God has not finished with Israel. Quit believing the lies that Satan spouts. There are 15 million Jews world wide. You seem to think that they control the 8 billion non Jews in the world. It's not true.​

Go look up every politician in the west, see who is behind them.
Islam is anti Christ no doubt, so is Israel state and George soros.
I reject both golden calf and moonie.

Both of them reject Jesus, remember?, equally bad.

The spiritual reason Muslim flooded west is because west turn away from Jesus, grow cold.
The practical reason is Israel bombed all middle east, and encouraging refugees to flood west.

Go look up epstein and his woman, and the woman s father. Then look into Hollywood, then talk about pedophilia.

 

[HeIsHere]

everyone can curse.

Bur not everyone can handle the truth.

Grow up!!!

I laughed because shows he has no rebuttal, but ad hom and exactly he cannot handle the truth!!!

 

[Churchgoer]

I laughed because shows he has no rebuttal, but ad hom and exactly he cannot handle the truth!!!

You can lead a horse to water, and that's it.

Difficult to teach some new tricks.

 

[HeIsHere]

everyone can curse.

Bur not everyone can handle the truth.

Grow up!!!

It also show how much some people are in their bubble, I am beginning to think they really do not know what is going on.
But that is no excuse.

You have not mentioned this but there is a sect in rabbinic j. that believes gentiles are animals, we are born without the special light only they possess. They are world wide and DT visited his grave, have you heard of this movement?

 

[Churchgoer]

It also show how much some people are in their bubble, I am beginning to think they really do not know what is going on.
But that is no excuse.

You have not mentioned this but there is a sect in rabbinic j. that believes gentiles are animals, we are born without the special light only they possess. They are world wide and DT visited his grave, have you heard of this movement?

Not exactly.
But I know the talmudist, how they describing gentiles, and orthodox jews, what they hiding in their underground tunnels ....

However the Hollywood satanic worship, west politician financial support, duel citizenship, who is controlling all the medias, money... all open knowledge. But many are turning blind eyes toward them.

Yes, the entire western world is controlled by a small group deep state. The pretend conservatives and liberals are same group. One does the war, the other opens border, perfect coordination. Guess who benefits from this?

 

[WayneNSO]

I personally have an issue with an eschatology which is trying force world events, children deserve better from the generation before them, and it is not conspiracy, that is the essence of dispensationalism to usher in a new world order.

Anyone who has done the research on the global elite and the surrounding blackmail knows exactly where this is all heading.
I pray it fails.

I agree with what you said. Zionist Christians want a third world war because they think it will hasten the return of Christ. The global elites want the same to build their NWO on the ashes of the old.

It will fail.

I know you do not believe the same as me on Daniel 2 where it says about the feet of iron and clay and they will not cleave together, but I see this as saying they will try to bring the nations together but they will fail.

Hitler tried to do it, Napoleon tried, and still today they try to bring in the NWO, but there is always eventually a spanner in the works.

Plus I believe the Bible teaches that the Governments of man will all fall in the future.

I also see the three frogs in Revelation 19 that bring the whole world to war as the three major religions, Zionist Jews, apostate Christianity and Islam.

I know you do not agree with my interpretations but we both see where things are headed, and the dangers of dispensationalism thought

 

[Churchgoer]

I believe sovereign God is getting all the enemies under control. The Joe brothers meant evil, but God meant it good.
The jew leaders and crowd meant it evil, but Jesus meant it good.

Just stay on Jesus side, not any other side.

 

[HeIsHere]

I agree with what you said. Zionist Christians want a third world war because they think it will hasten the return of Christ. The global elites want the same to build their NWO on the ashes of the old.

It will fail.

I know you do not believe the same as me on Daniel 2 where it says about the feet of iron and clay and they will not cleave together, but I see this as saying they will try to bring the nations together but they will fail.

Hitler tried to do it, Napoleon tried, and still today they try to bring in the NWO, but there is always eventually a spanner in the works.

Plus I believe the Bible teaches that the Governments of man will all fall in the future.

I also see the three frogs in Revelation 19 that bring the whole world to war as the three major religions, Zionist Jews, apostate Christianity and Islam.

I know you do not agree with my interpretations but we both see where things are headed, and the dangers of dispensationalism thought

I am good with it will fail .

Although I still think we are headed for tumultuous times, I get frustrated because Christians are complicit in it, very frustrated!

 

[WayneNSO]

I am good with it will fail .

Although I still think we are headed for tumultuous times, I get frustrated because Christians are complicit in it, very frustrated!

Oh yes no doubt times are going to be bad. Then all those who believe in a pre-trib rapture will be like chocolate soldiers melting when the heat is on. They will have to change to the post rapture position I guess.

I see a scenario where Israel is destroyed and Christians having to come to terms with the fact that no temple is going to built, and then they have to wake up to reality. Please do not misunderstand me - I do not wish harm to anyone when I say about Israel being destroyed. I just see it as a real possibility, and proper biblical knowledge following.

I will get called anti-semite now.

 

[cv5]

And you can disagree with me without being childish nasty or creating strawmen to argue against, you cant say the same for @cv5

The number of times he has said I believe something I do not believe just shows how ignorant he is. He is the only person on this chat thing that I dislike because of his attitude, but I also feel sorry for him.

You take issue with my winning "attitude"? Sorry, but I simply cannot apologize for this inherently positive attribute.

BTW, the Garner Ted Armstrong acolytes were 100% losers for following that snake oil selling hack.

 

[cv5]

I agree with what you said. Zionist Christians want a third world war because they think it will hasten the return of Christ. The global elites want the same to build their NWO on the ashes of the old.

It will fail.

I know you do not believe the same as me on Daniel 2 where it says about the feet of iron and clay and they will not cleave together, but I see this as saying they will try to bring the nations together but they will fail.

Hitler tried to do it, Napoleon tried, and still today they try to bring in the NWO, but there is always eventually a spanner in the works.

Plus I believe the Bible teaches that the Governments of man will all fall in the future.

I also see the three frogs in Revelation 19 that bring the whole world to war as the three major religions, Zionist Jews, apostate Christianity and Islam.

I know you do not agree with my interpretations but we both see where things are headed, and the dangers of dispensationalism thought

Wow you ARE confused aren't you?
And soooooo obsessed with this PRESENT AGE and it's politics.

As for me, I ignore it completely other than the prophetic milestones and signs of the times.

Did I mention that I know for a fact that I will be raptured before it all comes spiritually unglued? Oh yea, the harpazo is boilerplate biblically certain doctrine. Did you happen to read my many instructive posts on the matter?

 

[cv5]

Oh yes no doubt times are going to be bad. Then all those who believe in a pre-trib rapture will be like chocolate soldiers melting when the heat is on. They will have to change to the post rapture position I guess.

I see a scenario where Israel is destroyed and Christians having to come to terms with the fact that no temple is going to built, and then they have to wake up to reality. Please do not misunderstand me - I do not wish harm to anyone when I say about Israel being destroyed. I just see it as a real possibility, and proper biblical knowledge following.

I will get called anti-semite now.

I see a scenario where the sheep and goat nations will be judged according to their attitude toward Israel during the tribulation.

Did you fail to take note of these critical passages? OK, here they are. And now, you are responsible to deal with them.

[Mat 25:31-46 KJV] – 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[HeIsHere]

Oh yes no doubt times are going to be bad. Then all those who believe in a pre-trib rapture will be like chocolate soldiers melting when the heat is on. They will have to change to the post rapture position I guess.

I see a scenario where Israel is destroyed and Christians having to come to terms with the fact that no temple is going to built, and then they have to wake up to reality. Please do not misunderstand me - I do not wish harm to anyone when I say about Israel being destroyed. I just see it as a real possibility, and proper biblical knowledge following.

I will get called anti-semite now.

Yeah they probably will on the name calling, but I know better and I am sure others as well.

There are probably a few different ways this can go and I definitely think your position is very likely.
No temple for sure, and no rapture for sure, no antichrist for sure and since the world is reorganizing no one world government.
Thumper is caught in a trap right now so a lot depends on what he does next, time will tell.

Dispensationalism has an expiry date, a huge fatal flaw, let's hope it goes out with a fizzle.

 

[WayneNSO]

Yeah they probably will on the name calling, but I know better and I am sure others as well.

There are probably a few different ways this can go and I definitely think your position is very likely.
No temple for sure, and no rapture for sure, no antichrist for sure and since the world is reorganizing no one world government.
Thumper is caught in a trap right now so a lot depends on what he does next, time will tell.

Dispensationalism has an expiry date, a huge fatal flaw, let's hope it goes out with a fizzle.

Is Thumper a nick name for trump ? I remember Thumper from Bambi

 

[cv5]

Oh yes no doubt times are going to be bad. Then all those who believe in a pre-trib rapture will be like chocolate soldiers melting when the heat is on. They will have to change to the post rapture position I guess.

I see a scenario where Israel is destroyed and Christians having to come to terms with the fact that no temple is going to built, and then they have to wake up to reality. Please do not misunderstand me - I do not wish harm to anyone when I say about Israel being destroyed. I just see it as a real possibility, and proper biblical knowledge following.

I will get called anti-semite now.

"I see a scenario where Israel is destroyed and Christians having to come to terms with the fact that no temple is going to built, and then they have to wake up to reality."

What is this reality that you espouse? Satan on the throne, Jesus defeated?

I mean that is what you really talking about? Right?

 

[Beekeeper]

Indeed, the fact that Israel is the focus of worldwide "attention" is lost on so many here.
But this remains an ever present daily reality despite the strident denials.....

Do you find it incomprehensible and uncanny that the present day reformation per Ezekiel 37 escapes their scrutiny?
Yea, so do I....

All you need to do to become the center of attention is treat others badly.

Regarding Ezekiel 37, is Jesus your priesthood, temple, and king?
Well Jesus is also the "tabernacle" that was promised to be with the children of Jacob forever in v.27.
The eternal promised land of v.25 is with Jesus too.

All the eternal promises to the children of Israel are just like that.
By the grace of God through Christ the blessings of Old Testament saints are shared with us, so let's not be begrudging about also sharing them with the Old Testament saints.

 

[Beekeeper]

"I see a scenario where Israel is destroyed and Christians having to come to terms with the fact that no temple is going to built, and then they have to wake up to reality."

What is this reality that you espouse? Satan on the throne, Jesus defeated?

I mean that is what you really talking about? Right?

And now you are sounding like Modern Earthly Israel is your God?
Whether is is priesthood, kingship, temple or any eternal promise,
everything that you attribute to modern Israel you take away (in your own understanding) from Christ.

 

[Beekeeper]

I see a scenario where the sheep and goat nations will be judged according to their attitude toward Israel during the tribulation.

Did you fail to take note of these critical passages? OK, here they are. And now, you are responsible to deal with them.

[Mat 25:31-46 KJV] – 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

So Jesus is only coming to judge corporate entities now?
Well that would be an ordinary event for us mere souls.
No everlasting punishment or life eternal.
Canada raptured off this way New Zealand the other.
No more institution of modern Israel 'caus it's up there in glory.
The people just continue to live their empty lives without governments....

In any case modern Israel is not flesh or blood, but a "principality and power",
and for my part I rarely say anything good about it, nor believe that I have to.
I will be fine though, because my government really sucks up to it.

 

[cv5]

Oh yes no doubt times are going to be bad. Then all those who believe in a pre-trib rapture will be like chocolate soldiers melting when the heat is on. They will have to change to the post rapture position I guess.

I see a scenario where Israel is destroyed and Christians having to come to terms with the fact that no temple is going to built, and then they have to wake up to reality. Please do not misunderstand me - I do not wish harm to anyone when I say about Israel being destroyed. I just see it as a real possibility, and proper biblical knowledge following.

I will get called anti-semite now.

Oh and BTW, did I mention the fact that the 12 tribes aka the Jews are the chosen people selected by God for the outreach ministry at the time of the 7 year tribulation AND during the millennium?

Oh yea. The Jews aren't going anywhere soon. Or ever.

Yes, your dreams regarding the demise of the Jews will suffer to be shattered. But hey.....if you survive the tribulation you can thank and congratulate them in person....

 

[Gideon300]

everyone can curse.

Bur not everyone can handle the truth.

Grow up!!!

Truth? When it comes to Israel, you are clueless. And tell me, what is the difference between America's fight for independence and Israel's?