Replacement theology? Yes or No.
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Her vision was pretrib.
He POSITION was she believed the church needed to go through the trib for cleansing.( even though shown the truth)
Like you guys.
Heaven has shown you different, but you stick with error due to mental unpacking of the bible.
Great analogy.
Here is an except from Margaret's vision if anyone's interested:
"...now look out for the sign of the Son of man.
Here I was made to stop and cry out, 0 it is not known what the sign of the Son of man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it; but suddenly what it was burst upon me with a glorious light I saw it was just the Lord himself descending from Heaven with a shout, just the glorified man. even Jesus; but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father's glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people.
... be filled with the Spirit."
(Margaret MacDonald’s handwritten account of her 1830 revelation, as included in Robert Nortons Memoirs of James & George MacDonald of Port-Glasgow (1840). pp. 171-176.)
"...now look out for the sign of the Son of man.
Here I was made to stop and cry out, 0 it is not known what the sign of the Son of man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it; but suddenly what it was burst upon me with a glorious light I saw it was just the Lord himself descending from Heaven with a shout, just the glorified man. even Jesus; but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father's glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people.
... be filled with the Spirit."
(Margaret MacDonald’s handwritten account of her 1830 revelation, as included in Robert Nortons Memoirs of James & George MacDonald of Port-Glasgow (1840). pp. 171-176.)
No. The faithful Church is raptured pre-trib. Every last one.
Everyone should have understood this by now.
The bogus frauds go thru the trib. Likely many on this thread fall into that sad category.
The 12-Step Hebrew Wedding Pattern
1) The Bride Is Chosen by the Father
In ancient Israel, the father of the groom chose the bride.
Spiritual meaning
God the Father chose the Church for His Son before the world began.
“You did not choose Me, but I chose you…” — John 15:16
“He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world…” — Ephesians 1:4
2) The Bride Price Is Paid
The groom paid a mohar (bride price) to redeem the bride.
Spiritual meaning
Jesus paid the price with His blood.
“You were bought with a price.” — 1 Corinthians 6:20
3) The Marriage Covenant (Betrothal) Is Made
The couple drank from a cup of wine sealing the covenant (kiddushin).
They were legally married — though not yet living together.
Spiritual meaning
The New Covenant was sealed at the Last Supper.
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20
The Church today is betrothed — not yet living with Christ physically.
4) The Bride Is Set Apart
The bride was now consecrated to her groom alone.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is sanctified — set apart for Christ.
“I betrothed you to one husband… Christ.” — 2 Corinthians 11:2
5) The Groom Leaves to Prepare a Place
The groom returned to his father’s house to build a bridal chamber.
He could not return until his father approved the place.
Spiritual meaning
Jesus ascended to Heaven to prepare our dwelling.
“I go to prepare a place for you.” — John 14:2
6) The Bride Waits — Not Knowing the Day or Hour
Only the father decided when the groom could go get his bride.
The bride lived in expectation — always ready.
Spiritual meaning
No one knows when Christ will return.
“No one knows the day or hour…” — Matthew 24:36
7) The Groom Comes With a Shout and a Trumpet
When the father approved, the groom went to fetch the bride.
He came at night with:
• a shout
• a trumpet blast
• a procession
Spiritual meaning
This is the rapture signal.
“The Lord Himself will descend with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God…” — 1 Thessalonians 4:16
8) The Bride Is Taken Away (This Is the Rapture)
The bride was lifted up and carried away to the groom’s house.
She did not walk — she was taken.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is caught up.
“We who are alive… shall be caught up together… to meet the Lord in the air.” — 1 Thessalonians 4:17
This is the rapture — before judgment.
9) The Bride Enters the Bridal Chamber
The couple entered the chuppah (bridal chamber) for about 7 days.
The door was shut.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is in Heaven while Earth goes through the 7-year Tribulation.
“Come… enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you.” — Isaiah 26:20
10) The Marriage Is Consummated
The bride and groom became one.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is permanently united with Christ.
“They are no longer two but one.” — Matthew 19:6
11) The Bride Is Revealed
After the chamber period, the bride appeared publicly.
Spiritual meaning
The Church returns with Christ in glory.
“When Christ appears, you also will appear with Him in glory.” — Colossians 3:4
12) The Marriage Supper
A huge public feast followed.
Spiritual meaning
This is the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
“Blessed are those invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” — Revelation 19:9
Why This Is So PowerfulThis wedding model:
- Explains why the Church is removed before judgment
- Matches rapture language exactly
- Explains “no one knows the day or hour”
- Explains the 7-year separation
- Explains why the Church returns with Christ
It is not a metaphor invented later — it is built into Jewish marriage itself, which God designed to be a prophetic blueprint.
How about the divorce part? And husband should not marry her back part?No. The faithful Church is raptured pre-trib. Every last one.
Everyone should have understood this by now.
The bogus frauds go thru the trib. Likely many on this thread fall into that sad category.
The 12-Step Hebrew Wedding Pattern
1) The Bride Is Chosen by the Father
In ancient Israel, the father of the groom chose the bride.
Spiritual meaning
God the Father chose the Church for His Son before the world began.
“You did not choose Me, but I chose you…” — John 15:16
“He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world…” — Ephesians 1:4
2) The Bride Price Is Paid
The groom paid a mohar (bride price) to redeem the bride.
Spiritual meaning
Jesus paid the price with His blood.
“You were bought with a price.” — 1 Corinthians 6:20
3) The Marriage Covenant (Betrothal) Is Made
The couple drank from a cup of wine sealing the covenant (kiddushin).
They were legally married — though not yet living together.
Spiritual meaning
The New Covenant was sealed at the Last Supper.
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20
The Church today is betrothed — not yet living with Christ physically.
4) The Bride Is Set Apart
The bride was now consecrated to her groom alone.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is sanctified — set apart for Christ.
“I betrothed you to one husband… Christ.” — 2 Corinthians 11:2
5) The Groom Leaves to Prepare a Place
The groom returned to his father’s house to build a bridal chamber.
He could not return until his father approved the place.
Spiritual meaning
Jesus ascended to Heaven to prepare our dwelling.
“I go to prepare a place for you.” — John 14:2
6) The Bride Waits — Not Knowing the Day or Hour
Only the father decided when the groom could go get his bride.
The bride lived in expectation — always ready.
Spiritual meaning
No one knows when Christ will return.
“No one knows the day or hour…” — Matthew 24:36
7) The Groom Comes With a Shout and a Trumpet
When the father approved, the groom went to fetch the bride.
He came at night with:
• a shout
• a trumpet blast
• a procession
Spiritual meaning
This is the rapture signal.
“The Lord Himself will descend with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God…” — 1 Thessalonians 4:16
8) The Bride Is Taken Away (This Is the Rapture)
The bride was lifted up and carried away to the groom’s house.
She did not walk — she was taken.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is caught up.
“We who are alive… shall be caught up together… to meet the Lord in the air.” — 1 Thessalonians 4:17
This is the rapture — before judgment.
9) The Bride Enters the Bridal Chamber
The couple entered the chuppah (bridal chamber) for about 7 days.
The door was shut.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is in Heaven while Earth goes through the 7-year Tribulation.
“Come… enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you.” — Isaiah 26:20
10) The Marriage Is Consummated
The bride and groom became one.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is permanently united with Christ.
“They are no longer two but one.” — Matthew 19:6
11) The Bride Is Revealed
After the chamber period, the bride appeared publicly.
Spiritual meaning
The Church returns with Christ in glory.
“When Christ appears, you also will appear with Him in glory.” — Colossians 3:4
12) The Marriage Supper
A huge public feast followed.
Spiritual meaning
This is the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
“Blessed are those invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” — Revelation 19:9
This wedding model:
- Explains why the Church is removed before judgment
- Matches rapture language exactly
- Explains “no one knows the day or hour”
- Explains the 7-year separation
- Explains why the Church returns with Christ
It is not a metaphor invented later — it is built into Jewish marriage itself, which God designed to be a prophetic blueprint.
No. We never see the AC, his pogroms do not affect the Bride, as she is enjoying her 7 year honeymoon at the Fathers house.
Furthermore, the ***former*** WIFE of YHVH, the Jews, are the FIRST to recognize that the Bride has indeed been taken.
Despite the massive campaign of deception to deny it. And the alarm is raised, many Jew come to faith.
It is the JEWS who first recognize the beast for who he really is, as the Scriptures reveal this to the Jews.
People do not understand: the rapture will be far more quiet and subtle than most surmise.
Oh and BTW, the gentile Bride is said to be BETROTHED from the start.
Your theory of the innocent party to a marriage gone wrong DOES NOT APPLY to the gentile Bride Church.
And the fact of the necessity of the death of the Husband DOES APPLY to the Nation Israel.
As has been pointed out already Israel is once again prophetically called BETROTHED.
Oh and BTW, the entire corporate body of the Nation Israel accepted the old covenant long ago.
And the entire Nation Israel will likewise accept the New Covenant in the midst of the trib.
Try harder.
You got half the picture and think you proved some silly point.
She believed the church must go through the trib.
What your teachers omitted:
Margaret quotes;
" Now will THE WICKED be revealed, with all power and signs and lying wonders, so that it it were possible the very elect will be deceived. - [This is the fiery trial which is to try us. - It will be for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus]; but Oh it will be a fiery trial. Every soul will he shaken to the very centre. The enemy will try to shake in every thing we have believed - but the trial of real faith will be found to honour and praise and glory. Nothing but what is of God will stand. The stony-ground hearers will be made manifest - the love of many will wax cold.
I frequently said that night, and often since, now shall the awful sight of a false Christ be seen on this earth, and nothing but the living Christ in us can detect this awful attempt of the enemy to deceive - for it is with all deceivableness of unrighteousness he will work - he will have a counterpart for every part of God's truth, and an imitation for every work of the Spirit.
The Spirit must and will be poured out on the church, that she may be purified and filled with God - and just in proportion as the Spirit of God works, so will he - when our Lord anoints men with power, so will he. This is particularly the nature of the trial, through which those are to pass who will be counted worthy to stand before the Son of man. There will he outward trial too, but 'tis principally temptation. It is brought on by the outpouring of the Spirit, and will just increase in proportion as the Spirit is poured out.
[The trial of the Church is from Antichrist. It is by being filled with the Spirit that we shall be kept]"
So it is interesting how she mirrored postribbers.
You are shown the words of the Bible from heaven, then mentally invented a postrib rapture.
Oh the irony.
Only half the bride is taken in mat 24 and mat25No. The faithful Church is raptured pre-trib. Every last one.
Everyone should have understood this by now.
The bogus frauds go thru the trib. Likely many on this thread fall into that sad category.
The 12-Step Hebrew Wedding Pattern
1) The Bride Is Chosen by the Father
In ancient Israel, the father of the groom chose the bride.
Spiritual meaning
God the Father chose the Church for His Son before the world began.
“You did not choose Me, but I chose you…” — John 15:16
“He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world…” — Ephesians 1:4
2) The Bride Price Is Paid
The groom paid a mohar (bride price) to redeem the bride.
Spiritual meaning
Jesus paid the price with His blood.
“You were bought with a price.” — 1 Corinthians 6:20
3) The Marriage Covenant (Betrothal) Is Made
The couple drank from a cup of wine sealing the covenant (kiddushin).
They were legally married — though not yet living together.
Spiritual meaning
The New Covenant was sealed at the Last Supper.
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20
The Church today is betrothed — not yet living with Christ physically.
4) The Bride Is Set Apart
The bride was now consecrated to her groom alone.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is sanctified — set apart for Christ.
“I betrothed you to one husband… Christ.” — 2 Corinthians 11:2
5) The Groom Leaves to Prepare a Place
The groom returned to his father’s house to build a bridal chamber.
He could not return until his father approved the place.
Spiritual meaning
Jesus ascended to Heaven to prepare our dwelling.
“I go to prepare a place for you.” — John 14:2
6) The Bride Waits — Not Knowing the Day or Hour
Only the father decided when the groom could go get his bride.
The bride lived in expectation — always ready.
Spiritual meaning
No one knows when Christ will return.
“No one knows the day or hour…” — Matthew 24:36
7) The Groom Comes With a Shout and a Trumpet
When the father approved, the groom went to fetch the bride.
He came at night with:
• a shout
• a trumpet blast
• a procession
Spiritual meaning
This is the rapture signal.
“The Lord Himself will descend with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God…” — 1 Thessalonians 4:16
8) The Bride Is Taken Away (This Is the Rapture)
The bride was lifted up and carried away to the groom’s house.
She did not walk — she was taken.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is caught up.
“We who are alive… shall be caught up together… to meet the Lord in the air.” — 1 Thessalonians 4:17
This is the rapture — before judgment.
9) The Bride Enters the Bridal Chamber
The couple entered the chuppah (bridal chamber) for about 7 days.
The door was shut.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is in Heaven while Earth goes through the 7-year Tribulation.
“Come… enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you.” — Isaiah 26:20
10) The Marriage Is Consummated
The bride and groom became one.
Spiritual meaning
The Church is permanently united with Christ.
“They are no longer two but one.” — Matthew 19:6
11) The Bride Is Revealed
After the chamber period, the bride appeared publicly.
Spiritual meaning
The Church returns with Christ in glory.
“When Christ appears, you also will appear with Him in glory.” — Colossians 3:4
12) The Marriage Supper
A huge public feast followed.
Spiritual meaning
This is the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
“Blessed are those invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” — Revelation 19:9
This wedding model:
- Explains why the Church is removed before judgment
- Matches rapture language exactly
- Explains “no one knows the day or hour”
- Explains the 7-year separation
- Explains why the Church returns with Christ
It is not a metaphor invented later — it is built into Jewish marriage itself, which God designed to be a prophetic blueprint.
Somebody is issuing all of the right answers.
Somebody else is issuing all of the denials and mockery.
I trust that that the board can tell which is which......
2Pe 3:3
Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4
and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue just as they were from the beginning of creation.”
That's why people can't even trust their own visions or near death experiences if they contradict the Bible.
The Bible tells us that when God/Jesus returns it will be like lightening from the east to the west and that EVERY EYE will see Him in Revelation 1:7.
THIS is EXACTLY how Satan will deceive people in the end times.
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Somebody is issuing all of the right answers.
Somebody else is issuing all of the denials and mockery.
I trust that that the board can tell which is which......
2Pe 3:3
Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4
and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue just as they were from the beginning of creation.”
Yeah that pertains to the first century, lol.
Was not trying to prove any point just posted part of her vision as a reference, because it was the first mention of a secret Rapture and the first mention of the requirement of a special infilling of the Holy Spirit.