Self Righteous implications reading Romans

[Tex_MidwesternerNW]

So, I'm going to let Paul's words echo here on where I have found myself pondering this epistle

"Romans 3:4" ,(Of course not!) "Even if everyone else is a liar, God is true. As the scriptures say about him, "you will be proved right in what you say, and you will win your case in court"".

And yet he also says that all people are touched with the means by which to commit sin, especially where it is made apparent with bald lies.

Paul is not saying Jesus was tempted, and he specifically shows that the commandments are an invitation not to sin.

But we who do go to court often and need to know what the law says to have a fighting chance. Lawyers box like pugilists, the Court is run by blood money -- nothing at all will end in the demure act of surrender. Or at least we hope it will. Jesus gives us hope when He had said "millstone". Like a bank overdraft fee, the gates of hell chain shut around the mouths of people who know temptation and let it proliferate.

 

[homwardbound]

I tell you the truth, you believe me, you will go through troubles too. Yet do not worry or fear, I Jesus have overcome death for you.
you can learn contentment in all thing. Will you be willing and not quit belief?
your last and final choice is to choose and stand in it, consciously
so, choose and work iniquity or rejoice in iniquity 2 Cor 12:7-10
the one that uses iniquities, is still of the flesh, possibly learning the difference since Daddy, PaPa, Father never gives up on anyone. Wanting us all to get along and not harm anyone anymore. The love is revealed in the risen Son Jesus. To me at least, thank you Father

 

[Tex_MidwesternerNW]

And how our mothers call us their flesh and blood. Jesus was just as wonderful to women who He knew, and yet never looked at one woman with lustful eyes.

 

[homwardbound]

And how our mothers call us their flesh and blood. Jesus was just as wonderful to women who He knew, and yet never looked at one woman with lustful eyes.

hallelujah, our perfect Savior, thank you Father. As we get taught truth fromyou Father, wow, thank you

 

[Dino246]

So, I'm going to let Paul's words echo here on where I have found myself pondering this epistle

"Romans 3:4" ,(Of course not!) "Even if everyone else is a liar, God is true. As the scriptures say about him, "you will be proved right in what you say, and you will win your case in court"".

And yet he also says that all people are touched with the means by which to commit sin, especially where it is made apparent with bald lies.

Paul is not saying Jesus was tempted, and he specifically shows that the commandments are an invitation not to sin.

But we who do go to court often and need to know what the law says to have a fighting chance. Lawyers box like pugilists, the Court is run by blood money -- nothing at all will end in the demure act of surrender. Or at least we hope it will. Jesus gives us hope when He had said "millstone". Like a bank overdraft fee, the gates of hell chain shut around the mouths of people who know temptation and let it proliferate.

Once again, in English? What exactly is your point?

 

[Tex_MidwesternerNW]

Once again, in English? What exactly is your point?

This is the point: if you remove the millstone from the mill as a measure of debt, then it would not be the Lord himself lashing it to the neck of this kind of impudent reasoning by which different people show restraint in addressing the Lord, then only a vandal would be worthy of dispatching both the valuable millstone and the worthless bastard who tries to cheat the Name of God with those patent lies in Rom. 3.

I would still argue that Jesus engaged in vandalism on a grand scale. Cutting down the fig tree because it was not ready to feed him. Healing paralysis on Sabbath. These instances touch a nerve when I say, those are not acceptable things to do, but God's Plan gives Christ perpetual reign over the Law and all that he did is shown Holy by His Angels.

 

[Dino246]

This is the point: if you remove the millstone from the mill as a measure of debt, then it would not be the Lord himself lashing it to the neck of this kind of impudent reasoning by which different people show restraint in addressing the Lord, then only a vandal would be worthy of dispatching both the valuable millstone and the worthless bastard who tries to cheat the Name of God with those patent lies in Rom. 3.

With respect, much of this appears to be grandiloquent blather, mixed metaphors and entirely lacking in connection to your OP. Are you drunk?

I would still argue that Jesus engaged in vandalism on a grand scale. Cutting down the fig tree because it was not ready to feed him. Healing paralysis on Sabbath. These instances touch a nerve when I say, those are not acceptable things to do, but God's Plan gives Christ perpetual reign over the Law and all that he did is shown Holy by His Angels.

Jesus didn't engage in vandalism. To do so is to damage someone else's property without cause. Jesus cursed a tree that He created and therefore owned. He healed a person whom He created and loved. If these cases touch a nerve in you, perhaps you should examine your value system. I wouldn't be surprised if a snowflake liberal thought that Jesus did wrong in these cases, but I would be surprised if a Christian drew that conclusion.

 

[Tex_MidwesternerNW]

You know, and the real punch to the gut is that He would not suffer corruption. I know fully well that I am a mortal and will consign my skeleton and face to the dust before being present for Judgment Day. Jesus is not a mortal human being, and His Flesh and Blood never became corrupt by the Turin Shroud, though it is obvious He died.

And here I'm gonna halt for a moment, because the first Commandment is to have no other gods in the Holy and Real Presence of His Authority which is no less powerful in the tomb where He lay, spiced with lavender and roses so that nothing were out of place when He were to come back like a proverbial theif-in-the-night.

 

[Tex_MidwesternerNW]

With respect, much of this appears to be grandiloquent blather, mixed metaphors and entirely lacking in connection to your OP. Are you drunk?


Jesus didn't engage in vandalism. To do so is to damage someone else's property without cause. Jesus cursed a tree that He created and therefore owned. He healed a person whom He created and loved. If these cases touch a nerve in you, perhaps you should examine your value system. I wouldn't be surprised if a snowflake liberal thought that Jesus did wrong in these cases, but I would be surprised if a Christian drew that conclusion.

So the OP is about stuff in that passage I don't repeat to people. That would be bad. And I did not say "engaged in vandalism" lightly. Do you remember what the reasons for testing Him on Golgotha were? Something about blasphemy and telling people how to obtain Temple offerings?

 

[Dino246]

So the OP is about stuff in that passage I don't repeat to people. That would be bad.

If it's in the passage, there is no harm in repeating it. In other words, please quote directly what you're discussing.

And I did not say "engaged in vandalism" lightly.

Whether you used it lightly or not is irrelevant because Jesus didn't do that.

Do you remember what the reasons for testing Him on Golgotha were? Something about blasphemy and telling people how to obtain Temple offerings?

Please provide the text citations where these things are recorded.