Sharing Netflix -password with family

[Lynx]

Not working when you’re supposed to be working during work hours is also theft and I bet everybody on this forum does it


Like being on Christian chat during work hours is theft, stealing time from your employer so stop!

As we conclude study of 8th commandment at church.

Although this is a very different topic, you are correct. (Fortunately there is lunch break and a 5-minute smoke break, but I don't smoke, so I read a forum instead.)

As seoulsearch said, look at it from the other side. If I was paying somebody to do a job, would I want him standing around on my time, playing on his phone? That is money vanishing into the void from the employer's side.

Ethics is pretty clear on this one, to the point that I don't bike to work yet because I am not strong enough to bike to work and then clock in and do my job well. It wouldn't be fair to my employer to clock in and do a half job because I'm tired. I will keep biking around the neighborhood for now, until I am strong enough to bike to work and still do my job well when I get there.

 

[Moses_Young]

My pastor said this was stealing… and a sin… Netflix says if not same you sold than illegal. Thoughts? I never thought of it…

My view is that if you paid for it, it's yours. You can do with it as you please. When they world says "women's rights", they really mean "murder". When the world says "stealing", they really mean "sharing". What the world says is usually the opposite of what God says.

This said, you probably agreed to some sort of contract when you signed up with "Netflix". Although in the real world there's no such entity as Netflix, it's probably best not to go to the extreme of profiting from what it sold you. It might take you to court and cause all manner of troubles, and it will be hard to convince a worldly judge that any contract you signed with "Netflix" is null and void, as Netflix is an imaginary entity with no rights or feelings of its own.

But I certainly would share with family without feeling guilt. It's good to share. If the contract with Netflix makes you feel guilty, you can always consider **EDITED**. No contracts to sign or agree to there. And the imaginary entity known as Netflix gets even less money.

 

[Moses_Young]

You copied a CD. That's stealing because you have the CD in full but you didn't pay for it.

Stealing is taking something that doesn't belong to you. Duplicating what someone has created might fall into some sort of breach of an "intellectual property" law, for those who believe in that sort of thing, but I never agreed to any intellectual property law, and its certainly not stealing, as whoever owns the CD still has the CD. Probably a better description of this practice would be sharing. How like the world to call evil something that is good.

Not working when you’re supposed to be working during work hours is also theft and I bet everybody on this forum does it

Again, I disagree with this. It might fall into the category of fraud (you agreed to work a certain amount of time, and you're not), but there's also give and take. Does your employer call you after work hours and not pay you for it? Do you sometimes work during your breaks or after your allotted hours for free? If the employer does this, it likewise can be categorised as some sort of underpayment or exploitation or potentially contractual breach, but its not stealing. In most cases I've seen, employers allow not working during work hours, and employees similarly repay this by working breaks, working overtime, coming in unscheduled hours etc. for less or even no remuneration. Give and take.

Like being on Christian chat during work hours is theft, stealing time from your employer so stop!

Lol. I'd argue it might be fraud (in extreme cases), but not theft. Taxation - that is theft. Although the taxman might similarly argue - the money isn't real money anyway - it's just ones and zeros on a computer screen, and they can print as much money as they want whenever they want it. So fraud, or potentially forgery (if money is printed) - but not theft.

 

[MeowFlower]

Stealing is taking something that doesn't belong to you. Duplicating what someone has created might fall into some sort of breach of an "intellectual property" law, for those who believe in that sort of thing, but I never agreed to any intellectual property law, and its certainly not stealing, as whoever owns the CD still has the CD. Probably a better description of this practice would be sharing. How like the world to call evil something that is good.

I'm shocked someone would defend theft.
Which is what is being described in the OP and in the post I had replied to.

https://iplawusa.com/what-is-intell...ty Theft,sharing networks or online platforms.

 

[Oncefallen]

My view is that if you paid for it, it's yours. You can do with it as you please. When they world says "women's rights", they really mean "murder". When the world says "stealing", they really mean "sharing". What the world says is usually the opposite of what God says.

This said, you probably agreed to some sort of contract when you signed up with "Netflix". Although in the real world there's no such entity as Netflix, it's probably best not to go to the extreme of profiting from what it sold you. It might take you to court and cause all manner of troubles, and it will be hard to convince a worldly judge that any contract you signed with "Netflix" is null and void, as Netflix is an imaginary entity with no rights or feelings of its own.

But I certainly would share with family without feeling guilt. It's good to share. If the contract with Netflix makes you feel guilty, you can always consider **EDITED**. No contracts to sign or agree to there. And the imaginary entity known as Netflix gets even less money.

I am appalled that a professing Christian can rationalize theft of services, but to go to the extent of promoting a site that has the sole purpose of violating international copyright laws is a step too far.

 

[gb9]

back in the 90's, a friend of mine ( not a Christian) hooked on to his next door neighbor's cable, spliced in and ran the wire into his house. got free cable t v

about 3 years went by, the neighbor moved. my buddy kind of forgot about what he did. when the company sent a guy out to disconnect the cable, he saw the spliced in wire, saw it going into the house next door, he reported it, and my friend had to pay about $2000.

so, do not steal pay t v. or streams.

 

[Lynx]

$2,000 is light, considering how much money he did not pay over that period of time.


I know Moses is gone now, so I won't argue with the posts that he cannot now defend. But I have strong questions about the logic of considering Netflix as not a "real" company, and I wish he was still here to explain his justification.

If it's the absence of brick and mortar stores in your local town, the same logic could be applied to scamming Amazon... And now I'm curious if he considers that okay too.