M
Mitspa
Guest
this is so stupid..no one believes the koran teaches that Jesus Christ is the Lord God... and the koran is a just a fairytale anyway..wrote by a insane pervert
Similarities in Islam & Christianity
- Thread starter peaceislove
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
- Status
Fact is....the Koran most assuredly proclaims that Jesus Christ is God Almighty....after all, the authors who penned the text where early Arab Christians to begin with...
C
Chuckt
Guest
The reason I stopped debating you is because you can't see the forrest from the trees.
M
Mitspa
Guest
that's dumb too ..no one ..no muslim or Christian believes the nonsense you are trying to sell here on this forum.
M
Mitspa
Guest
Nobady believe that's nonsense ..find a link to one real scholar that is teaching the nonsense you are trying to sell here
C
Chuckt
Guest
M
Mitspa
Guest
I don't appreciate your attitude and rude remarks, Magenta is a well respected and Godly women who is known for her wisdom and her maturity and for good reason. You telling her to grow up contradicts itself because all I have seen is her being mature and responding in that manner and you have been bating at a dead body. She copied and pasted so what? why is that so bad? this has been going on for several pages all this fuss over a simple small matter and for what? What good has come of it? How has it benefited anyone including yourself?
If you want to discuss the bible and such then that's fine but please hold your tongue of rude remarks
C
Chuckt
Guest
M
Mitspa
Guest
Hi everyone
It's good to know we(Muslims & Christians) share a lot..
1. Belief in One God
2. Belief in Jesus as Messiah or Christ
3. Virgin birth of Jesus with no man's intervention.
4. Belief in Prophets of God.
5. Belief in Angels.
6. Belief in Heaven & Hell.
7. Belief in Afterlife.
8. Belief in Judgement day.
9. Belief in Second coming of Jesus.
10. Belief in Jesus killing the anti-Christ.
Cheers
The only difference between Christians and Muslims is that Muslim doesn't believes that Jesus is God, and that we are still under the laws of the old covenant, but actually they only had practiced some of the laws, but all. The Muslim had branched from Ishmaelites. But once they has came together during the famine and then released together during the Exodus, that they had picked up some of the Israelites customs but later on down, some has separated and started their own nations.
This verse shows that God were referring to more than one tribe of people.
Leviticus 20:10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.
In this verse that it says not to chase after the things that belonged to the other neighboring tribes that has joined with them during the exodus; but other tribes members had taken it in the wrong direction and had thought that their neighbors were nothing.
Exodus 20:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
Deuteronomy 24:13 Return their cloak by sunset so that your neighbor may sleep in it. Then they will thank you, and it will be regarded as a righteous act in the sight of the Lord your God.
C
Chuckt
Guest
M
Mitspa
Guest
K
kaylagrl
Guest
[h=2]O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. Surah 4 : 171[/h]
R
roaringkitten
Guest
The Bible proclaims that Jesus Christ is the Almighty God!
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Rev 1:8
The Word of God Jesus(Rev 19:13), came to give life. The Koran destroys life.
That the Koran is an early Christian work is independently supported by the following book:
The Hidden Origins of Islam: New Research into Its Early History
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1591026342/internetinfidels
Book description:
“Based on the premise that reliable history can only be written on the basis of sources that are contemporary with the events described, the contributors to this in-depth investigation present research that reveals the obscure origins of Islam in a completely new light. As the authors meticulously show, the name "Muhammad" first appears on coins in Syria bearing Christian iconography. In this context the name is used as an honorific meaning "revered" or "praiseworthy" and can only refer to Jesus Christ, as Christianity was the predominant religion of the area at this time. This same reference exists in the building inscription of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, built by the caliph `Abd al-Malik.
The implication of these and other findings here presented is that the early Arab rulers adhered to a sect of Christianity. Indeed, evidence from the Koran, finalized at a much later time, shows that its central theological tenets were influenced by a pre-Nicean, Syrian Christianity. Linguistic analysis also indicates that Aramaic, the common language throughout the Near East for many centuries and the language of Syrian Christianity, significantly influenced the Arabic script and vocabulary used in the Koran. Finally, it was not until the end of the eighth and ninth centuries that Islam formed as a separate religion, and the Koran underwent a period of historical development of at least 200 years.”
A more correct rending of this ayah actually plainly states that the Trinity is not “three”, but instead, it is “one”, and then proceeds to list out Father, Son, and Spirit…
يأهل الكتب لا تغلوا في دينكم ولا تقولوا على الله
إلا الحق إنما المسيح عيسى ابن مريم رسول الله
وكلمته ألقيها إلى مريم وروح منه فءامنوا بالله
ورسله ولا تقولوا ثلثة انتهوا خيرا لكم إنما الله
إله وحد سبحنه أن يكون له ولد له ما في
السموت وما في الأرض وكفى بالله وكيلا
إلا الحق إنما المسيح عيسى ابن مريم رسول الله
وكلمته ألقيها إلى مريم وروح منه فءامنوا بالله
ورسله ولا تقولوا ثلثة انتهوا خيرا لكم إنما الله
إله وحد سبحنه أن يكون له ولد له ما في
السموت وما في الأرض وكفى بالله وكيلا
Ya ahla alkitabi la taghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahi illa alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesa ibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi wakalimatuhu alqaha ila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo biAllahi warusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahoo khayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidun subhanahu an yakoonalahu waladun lahu ma fee alssamawati wama fee al-ardi wakafa biAllahi wakeelan
4.171 You The Book's family, certainly do not go beyond the limits in your faith, and they do not say on “allah” except The Truth (is) only the Messiah Jesus, Mary's son, “allah’s” messenger, and his Word, cast forth to her, Mary, and Spirit from him; so believe on account of “allah”, and His messengers, and they do not say: "Three." Refrain (it is) agreeable certainly your only “allah” one god glory be to him, that He has certainly been his Son,truly His what is in the heavens and what is in the earth and He sufficed on account of “allah”, a witness.
Observe that this ayah is directed at ‘The Book’s family’ (ahla alkitabi) – which refers to the followers of the Holy Bible; i.e. Christians.
For the Muslim, it then gives instruction as to what the correct interpretation of the Holy Bible needs to be regarding (among numerous things), the concept of the Trinity.
In this classic Islamic one-hit-wonder we are told not to refer to the one “allah” as “Three”, as even his messengers do not say “Three” - because he is not the result of counted things (thalathatun)….and yet, in the very ayah itself it lists-out directly, Father, Son, & Spirit.
This is a classic Koranic example in which the authors display their understanding of the Biblical concept of the Holy Trinity, and give the example of what it is not by the usage of the word “Three”…and what it is, by the example of “one”.
C
Chuckt
Guest
It fits with the stories that other told about Islam. Muhammad wanted people to follow him but they were following a book. So then Muhammad got his own book and when they didn't follow him, he killed them. Where do you think he got the book from?
Other scholars say that he plagiarized from the Bible.
M
Mitspa
Guest
C
Chuckt
Guest
- Status