STDs

[Ashton]

I'm curious what your thoughts would be on whether or not people with STDs should have children. As far as I know they could pass it on and then that child would have to live with that disfiguring complication for the rest of their lives. And they'd probably pass it on to others and so on and so forth. To pose another question, do you think homosexuals should sodomize because it would be wrong of us as Christians to keep them from love? And, yes, I do believe some homosexuals are born homosexual in the same way some people are born hermaphrodites.

I respect you, Dread, for what you did with your friend. I'm just curious how you would answer my above concerns.

 

[Dread_Zeppelin]

I'm curious what your thoughts would be on whether or not people with STDs should have children. As far as I know they could pass it on and then that child would have to live with that disfiguring complication for the rest of their lives. And they'd probably pass it on to others and so on and so forth. To pose another question, do you think homosexuals should sodomize because it would be wrong of us as Christians to keep them from love? And, yes, I do believe some homosexuals are born homosexual in the same way some people are born hermaphrodites.

I respect you, Dread, for what you did with your friend. I'm just curious how you would answer my above concerns.

I have to be honest, I mulled this one over for an hour. Here is what I conclude:

It would have to depend on the STD. From my knowlege, certain STDs aren't transferable even after birth. If that were the case yes I would have children. You can give birth to a healthy child no problem- its the breast milk that can contain the STD so that should be avoided. As for other STDs that could effect the child I say no, I wouldnt' have that child. I would adopt.

I wouldn't give birth to a child risking giving it a STD because of the mental reprocussions of worthlessness, the pain of being different, and the reactions from people in general that is so unfortunate that many STD contracted people share.

This idea is different than dating a person with a STD because I as person have the ability to walk away from that relationship or stay knowing what illness they have. A child has no such choice, in a sense I chose for them to live that life. In a sense I have the ability accecpt my partner, but my child will have to find someone to accept them. In the world we live in I can see how that is hard.

As for homosexuals- only they themselves can do what they will. I never would condemn or judge someone harshly because they're a homosexual but I will inform them what they're doing is sin. I believe that God can change any heart- to say that a homosexual isn't capable of changing their ways in my opinion is an excuse. God can do anything He wants and there are reformed homosexuals. I wouldn't say its easy, but a healthy love was only made for a man and a woman. Maybe they can find a really manly woman but that's their choice to make not mine for them.

 

[seoulsearch]

Very well said, Dread.

I was scheduled to work at an orphanage in Ukraine this past fall (where HIV is a huge problem among the orphans there) but apparently it was not my time yet, as the airline made changes to my flight a mere 8 days before I was supposed to leave that I could not accommodate.

I agree with Dread in that I would want to make an informed decision before ever trying to get pregnant, and if that option were out, would adopt as well, or would spend my life doing something else besides raising children of my own. If I were to, let's say, marry someone with HIV, I would do so under a mutual understanding that we would not have children but could, perhaps, serve among children or people who were also HIV positive.

I also agree with her points on homosexuals, as I had gay friends in college who talked to me about their situations because I tried my best to listen instead of condemn. I know we can't excuse sin or drape a rug over it, but I also want to be real with people because let's face it, we all have sin.

One of my biggest pet peeves are the Christians who go on mad rants about homosexuals as if they have no sin themselves... and then they go home to their internet porn or to have sex with their live-in significant other, as if they are doing nothing wrong.

It's as if some Christians seem to think that homosexual issues exist in order to "distract" God from their own sins--kind of like saying, "Look God! Look at this horrible, detestable homosexual and everything they're doing that's so disgusting to you!! Don't worry--I gave them a good preaching with the Word! You'd be proud of me! Now... just cover your eyes and ignore what I'm thinking or doing and don't look at what I'm looking at or who I'm doing it with..."

Quite disturbing, indeed.

 

[Ashton]

I have to be honest, I mulled this one over for an hour. Here is what I conclude:

It would have to depend on the STD. From my knowlege, certain STDs aren't transferable even after birth. If that were the case yes I would have children. You can give birth to a healthy child no problem- its the breast milk that can contain the STD so that should be avoided. As for other STDs that could effect the child I say no, I wouldnt' have that child. I would adopt.

I wouldn't give birth to a child risking giving it a STD because of the mental reprocussions of worthlessness, the pain of being different, and the reactions from people in general that is so unfortunate that many STD contracted people share.

This idea is different than dating a person with a STD because I as person have the ability to walk away from that relationship or stay knowing what illness they have. A child has no such choice, in a sense I chose for them to live that life. In a sense I have the ability accecpt my partner, but my child will have to find someone to accept them. In the world we live in I can see how that is hard.

As for homosexuals- only they themselves can do what they will. I never would condemn or judge someone harshly because they're a homosexual but I will inform them what they're doing is sin. I believe that God can change any heart- to say that a homosexual isn't capable of changing their ways in my opinion is an excuse. God can do anything He wants and there are reformed homosexuals. I wouldn't say its easy, but a healthy love was only made for a man and a woman. Maybe they can find a really manly woman but that's their choice to make not mine for them.

Pretty much agree. Thanks for taking the time to think it over. I didn't really have a firm answer, myself, so I was curious how you'd handle the situation. I still don't know if I'd adopt, because - as you seem to imply - it's dangerous to go to the bathroom in an infected individual's home or be in close proximity to them.

I still remember when I was first diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. I had been through the ER and finally got a room after things were under control. I remember lying in my bed when my family visited. My younger brother stayed away from me because he thought I was contagious. Lol... It's a deficiency; not a virus. The rest of my family laughed at him. I didn't feel that offended by him because if I were contagious I certainly knew that I wouldn't want to get it if I were him. hahahaha

Another time a doctor thought there was a possibility that I had Hepatitis B. I was living in a dorm with a roommate at the time. My roommate was pretty freaked out even though it could be cured. His first response was basically, "Don't infect me!" It wasn't, "I'm sorry for you." It turned out that I didn't have it. So I can sympathize with people who don't want to be infected, but I can also sympathize with those who are infected. And in my opinion my conscience would be so oppressively obsessive-compulsive in keeping myself clean and people out of harm that the hardest problem would be in living with people rather than in living with myself.

There's a lot of responsibility given to those who have contracted incurable STDs that can be transfered. It's an extra weight we have to live with. And I think I'd rather be indignant and lonely than ashamed of who I am because I've given it to someone else. However, that's up to each person's individual conscience. Ultimately, I think our concerns about this all can be found in the Scriptures. There were measures God himself ordained for us to take if we were found with certain diseases. I even think, in some instances, STDs. Don't quote me on that just yet, but I think so.

I feel for your friend and I hope she deals with her problem responsibly and in a godly fashion. I also hope that you do not contract such a disease for your sake and for others'. Enjoy your day and your freedom.