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Christians are never alone. Hebrews 13:5- "let your conversation be without covetesnous, be ye content with such things as you have, for He sayeth, "i will never leave thee nor forsake thee"! it sure is much easier to speak assistance to someone than it is to suffer an issue. i wish you well in this trying time. all Christians have "alone" & "waiting" stories. i hope that Jesus fils your heart, mind, spirit, soul & conscious during Easter.
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A Christian AND a virgin? Oh, sorry. Vegan. My bad, per usual. 
Don't know any real man who does that consistently over long periods of time.
I know of one who tried....but he just couldn't do it.
People Eating Tasty Animals.
Carnivore diet
Keto diets....
Lions, tigers and bears oh my!
Kinda like a woman with teretts and fibromyalgua. Can't touch her and she will unexpected cuss you out for no reason.
I went on a date with a guy a couple months ago who is vegan. At dinner, he ordered tofu.
He said he started it out of concern for animal welfare, but that he found out he feels less sluggish and more energetic without meat. But he doesn't preach or mind being around meat eaters -- I had beef. I think he's been vegan about 3 years.
Really nice guy, polite, and into family. He has a full-time job while being in real estate as a side hustle.
But we're both too busy to really be able to work anything out.
But he's a long-time vegan, and a real live man, I assure you -- so to the OP, yes, there are some out there!
He said he started it out of concern for animal welfare, but that he found out he feels less sluggish and more energetic without meat. But he doesn't preach or mind being around meat eaters -- I had beef. I think he's been vegan about 3 years.
Really nice guy, polite, and into family. He has a full-time job while being in real estate as a side hustle.
But we're both too busy to really be able to work anything out.
But he's a long-time vegan, and a real live man, I assure you -- so to the OP, yes, there are some out there!
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It could come down to blood types, also (though this is disputed). For instance, an O blood type may not be able
to give up meat, whereas Type A supposedly could. I am an A+ but I would not be able to give up meat completely,
though I almost never eat red meat, and in fact I had a beef with beef for quite a few years LOL, and it did not seem
to like me much, either. Now I can eat it okay but mostly I just don't really care to. Fowl has never fouled me...
to give up meat, whereas Type A supposedly could. I am an A+ but I would not be able to give up meat completely,
though I almost never eat red meat, and in fact I had a beef with beef for quite a few years LOL, and it did not seem
to like me much, either. Now I can eat it okay but mostly I just don't really care to. Fowl has never fouled me...
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BUT,
He wasn't worth a complete lifestyle change to be with him either. Was he?
Looking good is not what makes a man.
Neither does the money in their wallet
Their height doesn't matter either.
The amount of hair they have is a worthless measure too.
Their careers? HA!
Same with the "perfect etiquette "
Its something completely different
And that "manliness" is most definitely what women will change everything in their lives for.
And this guy who was a Vegan didn't own it.
He wasn't worth a complete lifestyle change to be with him either. Was he?
Looking good is not what makes a man.
Neither does the money in their wallet
Their height doesn't matter either.
The amount of hair they have is a worthless measure too.
Their careers? HA!
Same with the "perfect etiquette "
Its something completely different
And that "manliness" is most definitely what women will change everything in their lives for.
And this guy who was a Vegan didn't own it.
One of my brothers just had a gall bladder attack/surgery... one of my sis-in-laws had that same surgery many many moons ago and as my brother says, they cut her open from collar bone to pelvis. Things sure have changed! Well, I completely gave up beef in the late 80s, and before that, you know how some people love the smell of a big steak being grilled on the barbie? Yeah. For me the odour was stomach-turning. I hated that smell and so giving up beef then was easy, and I stopped eating all but fish meat for a few years (I was a pescatarian). I am not sure when I started eating poultry again, but I know it was not until this millennium that I discovered if I mixed beef with other meats that I could digest it properly, without causing any great pain or discomfort to myself in the doing so, and then that eventually progressed to, hey, I can eat beef! But by then I just did not really want to. I mean, why would I? There are so many health warnings about red meat consumption. Obviously I have had issues with it and so even that occasional yummy looking steak at half price is not enough to tempt me because ultimately it never tastes as good as I think it might or should .
One of my brothers just had a gall bladder attack/surgery... one of my sis-in-laws had that same surgery many many moons ago and as my brother says, they cut her open from collar bone to pelvis. Things sure have changed! Well, I completely gave up beef in the late 80s, and before that, you know how some people love the smell of a big steak being grilled on the barbie? Yeah. For me the odour was stomach-turning. I hated that smell and so giving up beef then was easy, and I stopped eating all but fish meat for a few years (I was a pescatarian). I am not sure when I started eating poultry again, but I know it was not until this millennium that I discovered if I mixed beef with other meats that I could digest it properly, without causing any great pain or discomfort to myself in the doing so, and then that eventually progressed to, hey, I can eat beef! But by then I just did not really want to. I mean, why would I? There are so many health warnings about red meat consumption. Obviously I have had issues with it and so even that occasional yummy looking steak at half price is not enough to tempt me because ultimately it never tastes as good as I think it might or should .
Beef is outrageous these days....even with a 50% bone and skin loss of chicken. Then another 20% cooking loss.
I used to cut up a 40 lb case of chickens in 11 minutes flat. Deboned completely in 45 minutes leaving only the wings not debunked. You get fast when you have 10 cases to debone or cut up for a banquet...every day!
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I never understood the vegetarian or vegan mentalities. Now admittedly, I'm not much of a pet person, but I do think we should do our best to care for them gently as stewards, like God would expect us to. Having said that, we also need to recognize that they are not our equals, and stop treating them as such. Animals are not our children, and the majority of their consciousness is driven by instinct. They don't have nearly as much ability to override that, compared to us.
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I would have no time for a wife if I were preoccupied with analysing why I wasn't already married. If I gave much thought to the appearing of the woman who I would take to be my wife, or the life I might lead with her, I would expect to feel an emptiness of sorts. My imagination of what was not present (a wife) could be an initiator for discontentment.
God in His sovereignty will grant singleness or marriage as He elects to do. I'm good with that, because the fulfillment a man or woman can derive from being single only differs from that of a married couple. In the Lord, the joy doesn't have to be less.
God in His sovereignty will grant singleness or marriage as He elects to do. I'm good with that, because the fulfillment a man or woman can derive from being single only differs from that of a married couple. In the Lord, the joy doesn't have to be less.
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What in the world?! What does him being vegan have anything to do with the fact that I "wouldn't make a complete lifestyle change for him?" And how much should anyone have to change their lifestyle for anyone, whether vegan or not?!
So your whole premise here is that you keep trying to say that men who chose to eat vegan aren't real men? And then point out that since I didn't decide to rearrange my whole life for this guy (who was a vegan,) this is somehow proof that men who chose veganism are lesser men?!
What kind of ridiculousness have I just walked into?!
Have you ever considered the myriad of other factors that could be going on?! I SHOULD be able to just say, "Hey, I went out with a great vegan guy but it didn't work out, so hey OP, keep praying for a vegan if that's what God has on your heart," and that should be a good enough answer on its own, but apparently it's not.
One of the reasons this guy and I don't think it's going to work is because he is 13 years younger than I am and he might like to have the chance at having a family. I shouldn't have to publicly explain this, but that probably wouldn't be seen as a good enough answer either, but my doctor and I feel I am past the point of having kids, and I would never want to rob a guy of that opportunity. Yes, I know God does miracles, but I have NO interest in the expensive treatments and painful procedures to get pregnant when so many others can do so easily and naturally. Though it does grieve me that, being adopted, I will never have a known biological relative.
But the guys who ask me out have almost all been 10-16 years younger than me, and I'm starting to think I should just tell them my age immediately, because maybe the poor guys feel like they're being catfished in real life.
So maybe HE didn't want to have to rearrange HIS life for ME!
After all, that's what relationships are about, compromise -- and giving up the hope of a natural-born child is a compromise I would NEVER ask a guy to make on purpose. As for a man not being what's in his wallet -- I thoroughly agree. The reason I mentioned that he is successful because I figured that would probably be yet another insult or reason to see him as being "not a real man" -- "A vegan man?! Yeah, he's probably broke and living in his mama's basement." Nope, not this one!
And it's not the wallet I'm after -- I paid for my own dinner, as I regularly do on dates. And if the guy spends the whole time telling me about all the women who've done him wrong, I just pay for the whole thing (this guy didn't do that, which is one of the reasons he was great to talk to.) This man would make a GREAT husband and father for someone, I have no doubt -- vegan and all!!!
I grew up around people who had strong work ethics, were serious about saving, and lived below their means. I'm at an age now where, if someone lives out those qualities for 2 or 3 decades -- yeah, it starts to add up, and they have a little jingle jangle in their pocket. I'm not looking for someone to pay for me. I'm just looking for someone I don't have to pay for, because that's what I did throughout my relationships.
And anytime I fell to the criticism of, "You're too picky; you're a snob; you think you're better than everyone," -- well, that's how I wound up paying for an alcoholic and his family due to addiction and refusal to live as a responsible adult. But my friends at the time told me I "needed to be understanding" and "be a good helpmate like God says."
If possible, I will never cater to those kinds of criticisms ever again, even if I stay single forever.
Believe me, I know what a good man is, though through some trial and error.
When I get in situations over my head (like relationships where I let things slide,) I wind up with wounds dug into my flesh that I myself put there as one of my ways of coping. One man saw them and threw me into a couch, sitting on my shoulders and screaming that he was going to tell the world I was crazy. It's very scary to have someone twice your size sitting on your upper body and screaming in your face even though, all the while, you're telling yourself, "Well it's my own fault. I did something stupid and set him off." Years later, another man saw them, and pretended like the marks -- and me along with it -- didn't exist, thinking he would silently punish me into "acting right."
The best man I know once saw those marks in person, and while he didn't say anything, after I went home, got on his knees and prayed to God in tears, and, believing God was guiding him, wrote me a letter. One of the key things he wrote was, "I don't know how to help you, Seoul. I'm not smart enough in that way, and I don't know about these kinds of things. But I KNOW there are people out there who ARE smart enough to help you, and we are going to find them. We are going to keep looking and we are not going to stop until we find them -- TOGETHER." Something about this SHOOK me to the CORE -- right, left, up, down, and every which way from Sunday. I started crying and couldn't stop... But when I finally did, I never cut again, because I knew GOD was professing His love for me through this man.
And this was from a man who didn't have a penny to his name, literally. Society had dismissed him -- every odd was stacked against him. But unlike so many, he never gave up hope, never fell to despair or addiction, and God saw something in him that He used in the most powerful way -- humility -- and it shook a devil's foothold right out of my soul. (God blessed this man's work ethic as well, and the years of hard work, scrimping and saving when everyone else made fun of him, are now paying off.)
But we have always been just friends, and we both know it might always be that way, so we both move on in life.
You see, sometimes you can know one of the best people you've ever met, and it might check all the boxes, dot all your i's, cross all your t's, and seem so logical that to NOT be together seems to go against all common sense.
But the most crucial thing of all is what GOD says. And for whatever reason, God tells us no, for whatever is His reason -- and sometimes the most important thing isn't to be married or single, but to listen to what God says -- and obey.
I don't know why, but I feel like God has told me the reason we've had such a powerful effect on each other's lives is BECAUSE we HAVEN'T dated, and that if we did (right now, at least,) He would not bless it.
And there is a myriad of other evidence for that, of which I shouldn't have to and won't go into publicly, as it involves our families.
We know God is telling us NO, and we don't fully know why -- but we also know to obey.
And obedience has NOTHING to do with what kind of diet either of us chooses.
(Likewise, if God pointed out a vegan man and said, "That's the one!", you can bet your bottom dollar I would have to investigate.)
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No offense meant at all, but this seems very similar to the classic "God is all you need" mantra, which I do not believe in the absolute sense. Here's the reason for my stance - if that were true, then God never would've made Eve to begin with. The first thing God saw in Eden which He described as "not good", was Adam being alone. At first, He tried addressing that by having Adam name the animals, which didn't work in the end. To me, this shows that pets are not suitable substitutes for a human companion. God knew this, and so He put Adam to sleep and formed another of his kind from one of his ribs. However, he also chose to make her very different, so the sexes could compliment each other, both physically and emotionally. While sin wrecked the originally established Creation, I believe God still wishes for men and women to function now the way He first made them to be. That can't happen if a lot of us walk around with the mindset of "I'm fine being single until I die", or anything similar - God didn't make us for that. While a human spouse is not a replacement for God in any way, He still provided that because He knew we needed each other.
One of my favorite ministers and marital speakers is Mark Gungor, and several years ago he did a seminar, during which he cited a few stats about single men. Among these were that overall life expectancy, daily demeanor, shortness of breath, heart issues, and other dangers were very similar, between men who smoked 2 packs of cigarettes daily and single guys in general. He concluded that by quipping, "I guess the worst ones would be the single guys who smoke two packs of cigarettes a day."
One of my favorite ministers and marital speakers is Mark Gungor, and several years ago he did a seminar, during which he cited a few stats about single men. Among these were that overall life expectancy, daily demeanor, shortness of breath, heart issues, and other dangers were very similar, between men who smoked 2 packs of cigarettes daily and single guys in general. He concluded that by quipping, "I guess the worst ones would be the single guys who smoke two packs of cigarettes a day."
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No offense taken. We can have differing perspectives and still be of the same mind.
God blessed Adam and Eve, telling them to be fruitful and multiply. The instrument of marriage and procreation gave rise to the 77 generations from Adam to Jesus, in a manner which ensured Jesus was the one and only to be born of a virgin. Companionship wasn't only desirable, but necessary in that light.
There is no one fits all approach to this. Some men can find their portion in the Lord, while others will feel inadvertently rudderless without a female for companionship. I always infer that no male is fulfilled by himself, doing things for himself, since the strength of a male is found in what he can do for the ones he loves. Whether a man sets his heart on being one spirit with the Lord, or one body with a woman, the principle is the same.
There are two types of single men, those who reside without a female companion (alone) and those who are emotionally distressed by their disconnection from female companionship (lonely). Loneliness is the killer, not being on your own. I'm not familiar with Mark Gungor, so I can only assume his sermon was drawing attention to the detrimental impact loneliness can have on the body and mind?
God blessed Adam and Eve, telling them to be fruitful and multiply. The instrument of marriage and procreation gave rise to the 77 generations from Adam to Jesus, in a manner which ensured Jesus was the one and only to be born of a virgin. Companionship wasn't only desirable, but necessary in that light.
There is no one fits all approach to this. Some men can find their portion in the Lord, while others will feel inadvertently rudderless without a female for companionship. I always infer that no male is fulfilled by himself, doing things for himself, since the strength of a male is found in what he can do for the ones he loves. Whether a man sets his heart on being one spirit with the Lord, or one body with a woman, the principle is the same.
There are two types of single men, those who reside without a female companion (alone) and those who are emotionally distressed by their disconnection from female companionship (lonely). Loneliness is the killer, not being on your own. I'm not familiar with Mark Gungor, so I can only assume his sermon was drawing attention to the detrimental impact loneliness can have on the body and mind?
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