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Are there many 'dead malls' in the US?
I heard about them but not sure if they are that common.
There's one that I know of in my old home town.The mall that it replaced was converted. Half State office buildings and the other half are medical service centers.
 
There's one that I know of in my old home town.The mall that it replaced was converted. Half State office buildings and the other half are medical service centers.
Is it cos of Covid or online shopping?
If not Walmart and CostCo
 
Is it cos of Covid or online shopping?
If not Walmart and CostCo
Likely so.
When Toys R Us closed all stores, that was not just sad, it was ridiculous.
People don't want to only have to shop a store,Walmart, for cheap stuff made in China. We want to be able to buy quality clothing we can touch and try on in person.

And kids are tactile. They want a store they can go into and see toys. Touch them,play with them.

It's like they're trying to make us a shut-in society.
Starting the lockdown,to see if we'd comply. And now,all the online home delivery services, including pet Vets,make it seem like staying home,even remote jobs,is ideal.

Why?
 
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& online shopping destroyed a lot of malls
I think it was last year. A town council refused to permit Walmart to open there.

They were not going to let the usual Walmart business model destroy more small businesses,as it does around the country.

I was so proud of them when I read that news.
 
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I think it was last year. A town council refused to permit Walmart to open there.

They were not going to let the usual Walmart business model destroy more small businesses,as it does around the country.

I was so proud of them when I read that news.
i have to shop at walmart for an elderly lady i'm taking care of & i don't care to shop there.
 
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i have to shop at walmart for an elderly lady i'm taking care of & i don't care to shop there.
In my area, Walmart is one of the more affordable options. Followed by Redners Market.
Their founders son (RIP)!was murdered a few years ago. Last I heard there's a $100 thousand dollar reward for leads to his killers arrest and conviction.

ALDI and Lidl are far more affordable grocery wise. But don't have the full house inventory of a Walmart. Plus , here ALDI and Lidl are far from home. Making grocery savings gobbled up by fuel costs so to get there and back.
 
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Are there many 'dead malls' in the US?
I heard about them but not sure if they are that common.

there is one near me. had sears, penneys, macys, foot locker, etc..

now they have belks, a few random stores, a couple of eating places, a police substation, and a lot empty spaces.

dead malls are a real thing.
 
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Yea Amazon sounded the death knell for bricks and mortar independent bookshops (though thankfully, some are still around) and then got into selling everything else.

I refuse to buy from Amazon. Their shipping is too expensive for NZ now anyway.
I also heard their working conditions at their warehouses are now rubbish.

I remember when covid hit, supermarket workers were deemed Essential Workers but they never got any pay raise.
God Bless them for keeping us alive! It really was surreal when we had to line up, 2 feet apart to go into the supermarket. The line at my Pak N Save extended round the block.

I never got into click and collect, it took just as long as going in and selecting yourself. Not worth it for me. I'd rather know what I'm buying esp with fresh produce.
 
In my area, Walmart is one of the more affordable options. Followed by Redners Market.
Their founders son (RIP)!was murdered a few years ago. Last I heard there's a $100 thousand dollar reward for leads to his killers arrest and conviction.

ALDI and Lidl are far more affordable grocery wise. But don't have the full house inventory of a Walmart. Plus , here ALDI and Lidl are far from home. Making grocery savings gobbled up by fuel costs so to get there and back.
There is only one Cost Co in the whole of New Zealand, and people say you can get cheap petrol/gas there but if they living too far away and have to drive there to get it, it defeats the purpose lol.

I've only been there a couple of times with my cousin, who was a member. The only thing really worth buying is the rotisserie chicken, and people rave about the $2 hot dogs, but IDK they are nothing special after you've had them a few times.

If you have the cash, you take a giant trolley in and fill it up with boxes and boxes of frozen food, to fill up in your giant freezer and pallets of toilet paper, for your giant toilet. But people do not have giant houses here. We now have tiny shoebox joined together houses.
 
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Oh but we now have giant storage facilities, to store all the stuff you bought and can't get rid of or fit in your garage. You rent them by the month.

I once visited one and thought huh run out of room in the garage? Is that why you park on the road now and block up all the traffic?

Arrgh. Life in Auckland. It's crazy.
 
There is only one Cost Co in the whole of New Zealand, and people say you can get cheap petrol/gas there but if they living too far away and have to drive there to get it, it defeats the purpose lol.

I've only been there a couple of times with my cousin, who was a member. The only thing really worth buying is the rotisserie chicken, and people rave about the $2 hot dogs, but IDK they are nothing special after you've had them a few times.

If you have the cash, you take a giant trolley in and fill it up with boxes and boxes of frozen food, to fill up in your giant freezer and pallets of toilet paper, for your giant toilet. But people do not have giant houses here. We now have tiny shoebox joined together houses.
Sam's Club,part of Walmarts holdings, biggest seller here is their rotisserie chicken.
It's reasonably priced too. But,you have to check the time printed on the label. You don't want a chicken that's been sitting under lights in the display rack for many hours.
 
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Sam's Club,part of Walmarts holdings, biggest seller here is their rotisserie chicken.
It's reasonably priced too. But,you have to check the time printed on the label. You don't want a chicken that's been sitting under lights in the display rack for many hours.
The ones at our Costco never sit that long. They are snapped up pretty much as soon as they land on the shelves. They are that popular, people will queue to get one.
 
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The ones at our Costco never sit that long. They are snapped up pretty much as soon as they land on the shelves. They are that popular, people will queue to get one.
Same here for the most part. I've stood with others waiting while the cook puts out fresh rotissery.
It's rare to find one that's been sitting for an hour or more. But it has happened . When I found this it was during the week before noon, when most shoppers are at work.

Better to be safe than sick.
 
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I need to buy a sack of rice today as we're running out. I'll go to the Chinese/Asian supermarket. You can't get a decent size 50 pound bag at the Euro ones. :D

I'm not going to Cost Co, unless I get kidnapped by my cousin on when I'm on my way to the supermarket. She actually did that one time and I had to go to Cost Co with her and get the hot dogs.
 
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I need to buy a sack of rice today as we're running out. I'll go to the Chinese/Asian supermarket. You can't get a decent size 50 pound bag at the Euro ones. :D

I'm not going to Cost Co, unless I get kidnapped by my cousin on when I'm on my way to the supermarket. She actually did that one time and I had to go to Cost Co with her and get the hot dogs.
I imagine it's hard to go to Costco and not buy a few things. Bulk buying is great if you can afford it.
 
Huh I could only get a small sack of 10 kg of rice as the larger ones had sold out. But its ok, only two ppl in my household. I guess got used to the bigger ones when mum had a whole family of 6 to feed.
 
Please post what supermarkets you shop at regularly ---which ones have the best service/prices? The freshest produce? Good parking? Any extra services? What aisle is your favourite? Do you take a trolley or a bag, do you pack your own? Have you ever worked in one?

How far do you need to travel, and if you don't shop there where else do you buy your food/groceries?

Also hows about those self-check out ones? Do you like using them or do you prefer everything done for you?

I have 4 supermarkets alone on the corner where I live, and along that stretch of road (which is one of the main feeder roads off the motorway) a few more plus countless gas/petrol stations. I really am spoiled for choice.
When you live in a small town (population 2000), your choices are limited.
We have a Harps that is a small local co. (100 or so stores).
It is a beautiful store, always fully stocked, clean and friendly, but you pay for it with prices 25 t0 30% higher than the small Walmart 12 miles away in a town of 1300.
We don't like to shop at Walmart but being on a fixed income and prices going up every day we have no choice. Thankfully, there is a small family run store about 20 miles from us that has an old fashion meat market. Same family and same building for 75 years. We go there once a month to buy our meat. Great meat at fair price, but all other product is 25 to 30% higher than Walmart.
Loving living in town on a lake. Retired here 18 years ago and will never go back to the city.
 
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I guess pros and cons of rural vs urban
It's really just economies of scale regarding the big box supermarkets

A new night market has just opened not far from me (can even walk there) on Fridays but it's not cheap, it's got hot food stalls and art and craft.

The place to go for cheap, fresh food - fruits and veges...is the Sunday Fleamarket. It's not a Farmer's market but all the growers go there and hawk their veges/fruit.

There are Farmers markets on once a week where you can buy artisan food like cheeses, meat, baked goods, dips, exotic fruits, flowers and handcrafts and you can sample their foods.

Some supermarkets do in-store promotions and let you sample new foods, but its' only once in a blue moon they do this.
 
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Outdoor markets on once a week don't need to pay as much overheads though so they can work out cheaper and have fresher produce. Some of the produce in supermarkets if they are not fast moving enough can be stale by the time you buy them

There's a whole thing with retail called FMCG - fast moving consumer goods that is the backbone of convenience stores - milk being the top seller, snacks like potato chips, bottled drinks, eggs, butter, bananas, sliced bread..
 
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