OBADIAH, Do you believe in reincarnation? I have to be really up front with you. sorry, I can not believe that anyone, as far from the Bible as you are, is a christian. You must chose the Bible over all other religions, or forget it. I am afraid, you are an enemy of the truth, guided by Satan's demons. Now, I don't mind debating the Bible with you, I might be God's means to bring you to salvation, But I don't want to misled any young Christian in here ,that I think you are saved. No one who is honestly seeking God, can came up with the garbage you teach. The Bible is not that confusing. It is my opinion, that you should not be allow to stay on this chat rm, because you are of the Devil, the Father of lies. If you ,stop teach the devils lies, and honestly seek God, then I would say you should stay. I must be up front, as I have been , as you all know, I believe most christians are lost, of the devil also, Most Bible preachers, I know, are saved but are led by satan in their false gospel,"faith only". Sorry, this is where i stand, In Christ , chosen by eternal love, Hoffco