The conversion of the Philippian Jailer in Acts 16.

[Pilgrimshope]

So water baptism brings the remission of sins, the person on his death bed or any other person who is unable to be baptized (people in jail etc.,) will not receive remission of sins because they will not have the opportunity to be baptized?

Is this what you are saying?

No I hadn’t said any of that, I was simply sharing that in the Bible , baptism is performed in water before the cross and also after the cross.

just stating a fact baptism is performed in water and done in Jesus name for the remission of sins because a person believes jesus died for thier sins.

i hadnt said any of what your saying there.

i do t I is how many people are going to actually convert on thier death bed honestly but it’s not hard for a believer to get baptized most churches do it .

The thing I believe that we miss about it is this in a biblical discussion forum there’s so much written and taught about it in tbe epistles and how it applies to the believer and it’s all really important stuff that’s taught about it

so if we would t just argue and tell each other what we think and how they are wrong or just basically make an enemy of anyone who doesn’t fully agree on every point we make . Instead of we would look into what the Bible says about it and then discuss those points tbat the bi ke makes of them well understand baptism and then will agree more because we’re basing it on what the Bible says about it …..in a Bible discussion forum

I’m certainly no one to judge a man on his death bed that’s between he and Jesus and children I don’t need to defend because thier angels are always in gods presence gazing at his face and he defends them the innocent.

I’m just a retired old man with not much to do in a Bible discussion forum tryomg here to discuss the Bible and some of the things it teaches believes , in this case baptism we could learn it if we just pray and dedicate ten min a day between God and our Bible .

that’s my only intention here. Not to disagree and argue and make enemies sister but to discuss like two believers the bible and it’s doctrines

I’ve never said someone who doesn’t get baptized is lost in my whole life . I’m just saying the bi ke teaches us to get baptized when we believe the gospel in Jesus name for remission of sins and this action the process happens in water. It always has. The spirit still comes from heaven like it did at jesus baptism in water when he emerged from water the spirit came from heaven like Peter explains in acts chapter 2 .

just like jesus promised in the gospel when he was about to be glorified . It says not believing the gospel is what damns a soul it doesn’t say “ of anyone believes the gospel and then can’t for some reason get baptized they are lost “

But faith hears what he said will save us and believes is the point “ whoever hears and believes the gospel and is baptized shall be saved “

We should hear that and believe and let God handle people who werent able to for some reason but they truly believed he’s the judge anyways any judgements I would be foolish enough to make on them would be irrelevant to them and just bring judgement in myself and I don’t need anymore of that Newp

good to hear from you sis but you misunderstood o was t talking about how we get lost just sharing that the Bible says baptism is actually important for believers and there’s a few chapters about it in tbe epietles explaining it ect it’s there for us to learn from and believe so we know and come more in line with understanding ot because we’re lost otherwise but because our understanding doesn’t grow up unless we do listen forget to what it teaches us in scripture I’m of course speaking of things in a bible discussion forum

😂

 

[HeIsHere]

But faith hears what he said will save us and believes is the point “ whoever hears and believes the gospel and is baptized shall be saved “

Just seeking clarification.

Absolutely agree with the above.
While some deny the ability to hear and believe IN Christ Jesus (unbiblical) others want to add some type of "action" to spiritual salvation.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Just seeking clarification.

Absolutely agree with the above.
While some deny the ability to hear and believe IN Christ Jesus (unbiblical) others want to add some type of "action" to spiritual salvation.

well I mean , here’s my position it’s an act of faith to get baptized. What I mean By saying that is 1 you have to her about getting baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins and 2 you act upon what you heard because you believe it . For instance this example

peter receives the Holy Ghost , begins to preach the gospel by the spirit and then after hearing all Peter preached some believed what he preached about Jesus so they say “ what shall we do then ?”

And then this follows

“Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins.

And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”

Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-41‬ ‭

But gentiles ? Peter again is sent this time to gentiles who had heard the gospel but hadn’t received the holy spirit yet .

“He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives remission of sins through his name.”

While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.

The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter said, “Surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water. They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.”

So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:42-48‬ ‭NIV‬‬

It’s just doctrine of we as a believer learn about baptism well want to be baptized knowing what it means for us like this for instance

“So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:26-29‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Baptism is of faith if you look at it naturally it’s just getting dunked in water . If you look at what Gods word says of it and see the spiritual it’s made of faith and only what he said it means

those gentiles above didn’t get baptized so they could receive the Holy Ghost they received the Holy ghost because they heard and believed Peters message about Jesus. The baptism in his name , was for remission of thier sins …what Jesus died for and was buried and rose up from

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, ( we’re buried beneath the water in his name and raised up again from it in his name who died for our sins ) we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Faith is like this you have to hear it from the word and then act upon it like Moses did here

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.

And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭10:21-22‬ ‭

Gods word is the power what Moses did is what baptism should be God said this for all creation

“And he said unto them, 1 Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

2 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

3 but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Will we hear and act like Moses upon this word ?

“And God said, Let there be light:

and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭

God said let there be salvation before them all and there is ….

 

[Magenta]

While some deny the ability to hear and believe IN Christ Jesus (unbiblical) others want to add some type of "action" to spiritual salvation.

As usual you misrepresent by leaving out very pertinent words which completely change the meaning of what you have been told multiple times, which is that the natural man is enabled to believe, and faith is a gift, but of course you deny these Biblical truths, so you can wrongfully ascribe to the natural man qualities and abilities that only the spiritually alive man possesses and is capable of doing. Why don't you start with the verse it tells us that the natural man cannot receive or comprehend the spiritual things of God and that the gospel is foolishness to them.

 

[HeIsHere]

well I mean , here’s my position it’s an act of faith to get baptized. What I mean By saying that is 1 you have to her about getting baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins and 2 you act upon what you heard because you believe it . For instance this example

peter receives the Holy Ghost , begins to preach the gospel by the spirit and then after hearing all Peter preached some believed what he preached about Jesus so they say “ what shall we do then ?”

And then this follows

“Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins.

And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”

Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-41‬ ‭

But gentiles ? Peter again is sent this time to gentiles who had heard the gospel but hadn’t received the holy spirit yet .

“He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives remission of sins through his name.”

While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message.

The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues and praising God. Then Peter said, “Surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water. They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.”

So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:42-48‬ ‭NIV‬‬

It’s just doctrine of we as a believer learn about baptism well want to be baptized knowing what it means for us like this for instance

“So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:26-29‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Baptism is of faith if you look at it naturally it’s just getting dunked in water . If you look at what Gods word says of it and see the spiritual it’s made of faith and only what he said it means

those gentiles above didn’t get baptized so they could receive the Holy Ghost they received the Holy ghost because they heard and believed Peters message about Jesus. The baptism in his name , was for remission of thier sins …what Jesus died for and was buried and rose up from

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, ( we’re buried beneath the water in his name and raised up again from it in his name who died for our sins ) we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Faith is like this you have to hear it from the word and then act upon it like Moses did here

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.

And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭10:21-22‬ ‭

Gods word is the power what Moses did is what baptism should be God said this for all creation

“And he said unto them, 1 Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

2 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

3 but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Will we hear and act like Moses upon this word ?

“And God said, Let there be light:

and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭

God said let there be salvation before them all and there is ….

I do think that baptism (water) is salvatory in any way.
It is a symbolic representation for what has already occurred inwardly.

See @mailmandan 's posts for complete analysis ... he has more patience then I do.

 

[Magenta]

I do think that baptism (water) is salvatory in any way.

Left out a very pertinent word again.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I do think that baptism (water) is salvatory in any way.
It is a symbolic representation for what has already occurred inwardly.

See @mailmandan 's posts for complete analysis ... he has more patience then I do.

But why do that when the apostle Paul explains what it is for and means ? I like to learn what’s what from the Bible I find that it’s not as mysterious as we sometimes think .

again I’m not saying “ baptism saves “ I’m saying faith saves . And faith without actuon is dead alone. But what baptism is isn’t a ritual or symbol it’s an act of faith .

God told us baptism is for remission of sins . We can believe it or refuse to believe it but my point is the Bible has always said the same thing about baptism.

Faith saves us but we have to hear the word

I know we don’t think everything Jesus says before we hear but we’re supposed to hear and believe even if we didn’t think it before he’s always going to be right

When you say “ I don’t think baptism has anything to do with salvation “ my only response would be to show you what Jesus or the apostles said about baptism for instance I think it does relate to salvation because Jesus connected it

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Again he doesn’t say “ if you believe and then something happens and you can’t possibly get baptized your lost “ he says if you don’t believe the gospel you shall be damned he doesn’t mention baptism regarding damnation , he mentions it regarding salvation .

This is why I was not saying “ anyone who doesn’t get baptized is damned “ Jesus never said that but he did for sure connect baptism to salvation. I. Can’t bring myself to reckon and reason it away or change it . Of the scripture changes it or removed it sure but it never did they continued baptizing after Jesus died because he commanded them to do it

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if you don’t think baptism is important my only advice would be to do a study of it in scriptire you’ll find a few chapters explainkng all it’s impact and applicability for believers , not a non believer but someone who believes the gospel


Ot hapoens with aboit every point of doctrine I did t realize communion was important either until I read things like thhis from the apostles

“For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭11:23-30‬

it’s hard for me to read things like this and then forget what I read so sometimes people will say “ communion is just symbolic it’s just a cracker and sip of wine doesn’t have anything to do with anything but the apostle said it means all this stuff

For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.”

at he doctrine is how we learn what things mean and if they are important or relate to something important in our faith like baptism or communion it’s all explained but often if we didn’t think it first , even reading the words of an apostle ourself isnt enough to change our mind about something

 

[keepingthingsreal]

Wow!

I will eventually prove my assertion.

 

[Lamar]

Are we talking about water baptism here?

Is that not what Peter commanded in Acts 2:38 so that you will receive the remission of sins?

Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. (Acts 2:38)

What kind of baptism do you think Peter is talking about???

 

[PaulThomson]

Most biblical scholars agree that Mark 16:16, along with verses 9-20, were added to the scripture later and were not part of the original text written by Mark; they are considered a later addition, often referred to as the "longer ending" of Mark's Gospel

I am not going to discuss if this is disobedience.

My one and only point is baptism does not save and is not required for salvation.
End of Story.

Baptismal regeneration is a made up doctrine and Christians (those who are born again the way scripture clearly teaches) should decry anything that adds to the simple Gospel.

Was Matt 28:18-20 also added later? Jesus commanded His disciples to baptize people in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Is it disobedience not to do so?

Mat 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Is that not what Peter commanded in Acts 2:38 so that you will receive the remission of sins?

Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. (Acts 2:38)

What kind of baptism do you think Peter is talking about???

A litleral translation of that verse is interesting. It suggests baptism moves a person into the release of their sins

be immersed each of you in the name of Jesus Christ into a release of sins​

 

[PaulThomson]

Anything that takes away from the all sufficient work of Christ Jesus is a problem.

HeIsHere, are calls to and expectations of Christians to live a godly life after believing in Jesus a problem? Is instructing people that Jesus wants them to be baptized as a sign of their newly made allegiance to Christ a problem? Is doing what Jesus expressly said He wants done after believing in Him, a problem?

 

[HeIsHere]

HeIsHere, are calls to and expectations of Christians to live a godly life after believing in Jesus a problem? Is instructing people that Jesus wants them to be baptized as a sign of their newly made allegiance to Christ a problem?

Can you show me where I have stated it is a problem to live a godly life.

I have held to one solitary point, water baptism is NOT salvatory and is not required for salvation, and I think we agree here so I am not sure why you are pressing this.

 

[TrustandObey]

Faith + Works = No salvation


Paul clearly preached that faith is the instrument of salvation... it is who we place our faith IN that saves.

Jesus Saves.....He is the object of our faith.

Do you consider baptism as mentioned in Acts 2:38 as a "work"?

 

[TrustandObey]

The Bible is clear.

8 For by grace (alone ) are ye saved through faith (alone no works) and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

It cannot be earned.

Are you implying that Peter was telling the people in Acts 2:38 that they needed to "earn" their remission of sins by getting baptized?

It is a sin to add to the Word of God.

Eph. 2:8 reads as such:

For by grace you are saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

The Bible does not need your parentheses.
But it seems your theology does.

Do you not have at least one scripture that states the central concept of your "faith alone" belief?

Must you add to every verse your bias. Cannot scripture simply mean what it states.

Must every mention of faith in the Bible be labeled as an all-encompassing definitive?

 

[PaulThomson]

Can you show me where I have stated it is a problem to live a godly life.

I have held to one solitary point, water baptism is NOT salvatory and is not required for salvation, and I think we agree here so I am not sure why you are pressing this.

I am interested in understanding the broader range of your thinking re baptism. I think most can agree that one does not need to be baptized to be saved . But does this one statement sufficiently cover all that God has revealed about baptism and its purpose and its effects? Are we aiming for a comprehensive understanding of the garden of God's word, or should we be satisfied with picking a few random flowers that we like, and leaving the rest unexplored?

Does baptism have purposes and effects that do not determine of our final destination at death, but may nevertheless determine whether our discipleship, and how transformed we can become, is truly God-driven or essentially self-driven?

 

[PaulThomson]

HeIsHere said:
Anything that takes away from the all sufficient work of Christ Jesus is a problem.

PaulThomson said:
HeIsHere, are calls to and expectations of Christians to live a godly life after believing in Jesus a problem? Is instructing people that Jesus wants them to be baptized as a sign of their newly made allegiance to Christ a problem?

Can you show me where I have stated it is a problem to live a godly life.

I have held to one solitary point, water baptism is NOT salvatory and is not required for salvation, and I think we agree here so I am not sure why you are pressing this.

I was asking you questions. Should I assume that your answers are No, and no.

These are questions: Do you think instructing people that Jesus wants believers to be baptised as part of their discipleship under His Lordship "takes away from the all sufficient work of Christ "?
Do you think presenting baptism as Christ's expectation for those coming to Him as Lord and Saviour "takes away from the all sufficient work of Christ "?

Maybe you have no opinion on those questions, and the questions do not interest you. If so, why don't they interest you? When Jesus told the rich young ruler to sell all he has and give it away to the poor, did Jesus not care whether he did so or not, so long as he believed Jesus was the saviour?

Des going through a marriage ceremony demean the marriage commitment?

 

[brightfame52]

Paul and Silas were in a Roman jail. It was about midnight, and they had been praying and singing hymns to God. The other prisoners were listening to them. How much the jailer actually heard is uncertain because he was asleep when an earthquake shook the foundations of the prison and “immediately all the doors were opened and everyone’s chains were loosed.” When he woke up, he saw that all of the doors were open and he thought all of the prisoners had escaped. Roman law demanded that if you were given a prisoner to guard and you let that prisoner escape, it was your life for his; you would be killed. So the jailer drew his sword and was about to kill himself, but Paul called out and said, “ Do yourself no harm, for we are all here.” Then the jailer asked Paul and Silas what he must do to be saved. Before we look at Paul’s answer, let’s notice some things that Paul did NOT say.

Paul did NOT say, “ You don’t have to do anything; God has already done it all.” But that is what men tell people today. Neither did Paul say, “Just repeat the sinner’s prayer and you will be saved.” That is a very popular answer to that question today; again from MEN not God).

Remember that this jailer was a Roman; if he was religious at all he would have Been an idolater. He was a pagan. He knew nothing about Jesus Christ—a Jew who had lived 6000 miles away. He didn’t know who Jesus was or anything about Him. Cold he have heard of Jesus? Possibly, but then Paul would not have had to “speak the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house”, which is what the very next verse (32) says. There was no way the Jailer could have been saved at the moment Paul told him to believe. He didn’t know who or what to believe in until he heard what Paul had to say. This verse (31) is used erroneously to teach “faith only” salvation. But a close examination shows that he could not have had faith in Christ at that moment—before he had even known there was a Christ.

So what happened after Paul taught him the “word of the Lord?” He “bore the fruit of repentance” Matthew 3:8, when he took Paul and Silas and “washed their stripes” where they had been beaten by the Roman officials, and IMMEDIATELY, he and all his family were baptized. Here we have someone again, like the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8) who was taught the gospel of Christ and somehow they all IMMEDIATELY, want to be baptized. How could they know about baptism and why want to be baptized immediately? It had to have been in the teaching that Phillip did in Acts 8 and the teaching that Paul did to the Jailer. In Acts 16. The earthquake happened at midnight. Then Paul taught him the “word of the Lord”— we don’t know how long that took but I can’t imagine he only spent a few minutes telling him about the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, in addition to the man Jesus, faith, and baptism. Then, the Jailer “washed their stripes”. It must have been in the wee hours of the morning by this time. Why insist on being baptized IMMEDIATELY, if baptism is not necessary for salvation? Why even teach about it in the wee hours of the night? They could have easily put it off to a more convenient time—even the next day. These are all questions that need to be given thought and study.


Men today tell people that baptism is not necessary and that you don’t have to be baptized to be saved. But that is not the picture we get from the Bible, both in examples, as in the conversion of the eunuch, the jailer, Saul of Tarsus, and the Jews on Pentecost; and in the commands that we read in the Bible like Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, and Acts 22:16.

There is one last part of this story that is very important and very “telling.” Read verse 34; after his baptism, the jailer “ rejoiced, having BELIEVED in God with all his household.” This proves that there is MORE to “Believe in the Lord and you shall be saved,” than just “faith”.

IN VERSE 30, the jailer asked “what shall I do to be saved?”
IN VERSE 31, Paul says “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.”
IN VERSE 32, “ They spoke the word of the Lord to him”
IN VERSE 33, he showed evidence of repentance and was baptized.
IN VERSE 34, “He rejoiced HAVING BELIEVED IN GOD”.

And now you know the “rest of the story.” This is the WHOLE story of how the jailer was saved. Beware of men who would tell you a DIFFERENT story of the jailer’s salvation.

The Jailor coming to believe in Jesus Christ after hearing the word of the Gospel, was evidence that he had been born again when he asked the question Acts 16:30

30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

And he was given the gift of faith to believe on Jesus name Phil 1:29

29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

 

[PaulThomson]

HeIsHere said:
Anything that takes away from the all sufficient work of Christ Jesus is a problem.

PaulThomson said:
HeIsHere, are calls to and expectations of Christians to live a godly life after believing in Jesus a problem? Is instructing people that Jesus wants them to be baptized as a sign of their newly made allegiance to Christ a problem?



I was asking you questions. Should I assume that your answers are No, and no.

These are questions: Do you think instructing people that Jesus wants believers to be baptised as part of their discipleship under His Lordship "takes away from the all sufficient work of Christ "?
Do you think presenting baptism as Christ's expectation for those coming to Him as Lord and Saviour "takes away from the all sufficient work of Christ "?

Maybe you have no opinion on those questions, and the questions do not interest you. If so, why don't they interest you? When Jesus told the rich young ruler to sell all he has and give it away to the poor, did Jesus not care whether he did so or not, so long as he believed Jesus was the saviour?

Des going through a marriage ceremony demean the marriage commitment?

@HeIsHere That last question would be better put as, "Does going through a marriage ceremony and exchanging vows mean that the wife and husband trust each other less than if they forego the ceremony and just start living together?

 

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Do you consider baptism as mentioned in Acts 2:38 as a "work"?

To the work-phobic crowd anything and everything that we might do of our own will to please God is a work that demonstrates unbelief