The elephant in the room
- Thread starter God-fearing
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Not that you asked me but, negative anti-Israel propaganda.
I was not under the impression you wanted to focus on Israel although Israel is a keyfactor. Am I wrong? At this point I'm not sure what your objective might be.
I was basing my responses on the above. Does not seem to address only one nation.
That's fine. I think I will abstain for now. Thanks
Israel, iran, all of the events that are in theses air waves and trending. Why would you say Israel is a key factor?
Im just putting it out there......where do you think this propaganda comes from?
People have been claiming that for decades. I have yet to see a clear connection between a passage of Scripture and any event in the last hundred years.
There's always the first time. You know, a mod let this thread exist in the BDF. They could have put it in the news forum. smh
People may also understand things diffeent then you do.
Hey Dino,
I don't completely agree here, but you raise a really great point, and some really important issues.
People message me almost daily, telling me "some guy" on the internet said a thing, and the latest news story on CNN MUST BE the fulfillment of some prophecy. I listen quietly, and then say, "Really? Are you certain? Which prophecy? Can we read it?"
: )
We live in a universe where prophecy does exist.
But we share that universe with nutters, grifters, and terrible bible teachers.
Have a great day bro.
It comes from Satan. He hates anything God loves including Israel and His own Christian believers.
Concerning Israel:
Deuteronomy 7:6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
7 The Lord did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. 8 But it was because the Lord loved you and kept the oath he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt. 9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments. 10 But
those who hate him he will repay to their face by destruction;
he will not be slow to repay to their face those who hate him.
Israel is hated because Satan hates God. Satan is whipping up people to hate who God loves.
Revelation 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.
This includes those in Israel that will eventually realize Lord Jesus is the Messiah.
I personally don't want to hate Israel since God still loves her. I am very much on God's side on that.
Psalm 83:1O God, do not remain silent;
do not turn a deaf ear,
do not stand aloof, O God.
2 See how your enemies growl,
how your foes rear their heads.
3 With cunning they conspire against your people;
they plot against those you cherish.
4 “Come,” they say, “let us destroy them as a nation,
so that Israel’s name is remembered no more.”
I'm not worried though. God will protect Israel whether or not people will acknowledge or believe that.
Long story short..
Well, once Muslims take over an area, whatever that area is, they consider it theirs forever. They have a strong enough foot hold in Europe, that the native population is afraid to do anything.
If we were to try and take back Dearborn Michigan, there would be a war here.
I think today's hate screeds are from those programmed to oppose Zionism. Which I believe is ever more tragic because such persons don't know what Zionism is.
Hate groups,like the Soros group,are responsible too. Funding the demonic Hamas supporter invasion of American University campus' is one tactic.
Zion is in the Old Testament. And New.
Psalm 132:13
For the Lord has chosen Zion; he has desired it for his dwelling place:
Hebrews 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering...
Which is why I do not believe any Christian can be antisemitic or condemn Zion.
As for the origin of hatred for Israel , of course Satan is first. But then there's a timeline. I had to look it up.
1908: One of the first Palestinian anti-Zionist newspapers appears, showing opposition predates Israel’s founding.
United Nations
1948: The Arab-Israeli war and the Nakba become the main political turning point, intensifying anti-Israel narratives.
Encyclopedia Britannica
1
1967: After Israel’s victory in the Six-Day War, Soviet anti-Zionist propaganda sharply escalates and becomes a major international channel for anti-Israel messaging.
Wikipedia
2
1970s–1980s: Soviet propaganda heavily spreads themes like “Zionism = racism” and “Zionists = Nazis,” which later echo in other movements.
*DuckDuck AI won't let me copy its information link to that
Christians can take it back if they are truly devoted to God and ask God to help them take Dearborn, Michigan back. But how many Christians nowadays live righteously that their prayers are answered? So it's dependent on their walk with God.
I'd thought I'd post some beliefs of my own here so some might understand what this thread is all about.
If you visited my profile page and noticed my favorite verse is Genesis 1:1 why is that? To me it keeps a proper perspective on who and what God is.
The case for Israel.
I believe God is regathering just as he siad. Many others believe because of the legalities and political implications that they stole the land . Others say that its not the same Israel of old. Fake israel. Others say the church is Israel.
However it came to be is a huge debate .
My belief is that Genesis 1 is true... when does God need to put his signature on the dotted line to conform with the legalities of man?
If the church is Israel...then we missed the part of being a new creation...and as the apostle john siad....I dont know what we will be but we will be like him (Jesus).
As for gaza ....if you look it up in the old testament I could not find one good thing said about it. Perhaps you can help.
MORE TO COME
IRAN
As the U.S. tries to negotiate with the terrorists which we said we dont I believe it will bring about a economic collapse as it seems everyone is getting into the tariff deals. I believe it will bring on the war in Ezekiel and the trib.
I believe the U.S. support for Israel has blessed us up into this point but has been compromised by the statement made by Mr.Trump
When he said...quote.... Israel would not have survived if it weren't for the U.S.
No deal will be reached with Iran as the lord said he will deal with them and the whole world will know it was God.
Enough for now....comments?
W
If you visited my profile page and noticed my favorite verse is Genesis 1:1 why is that? To me it keeps a proper perspective on who and what God is.
The case for Israel.
I believe God is regathering just as he siad. Many others believe because of the legalities and political implications that they stole the land . Others say that its not the same Israel of old. Fake israel. Others say the church is Israel.
However it came to be is a huge debate .
My belief is that Genesis 1 is true... when does God need to put his signature on the dotted line to conform with the legalities of man?
If the church is Israel...then we missed the part of being a new creation...and as the apostle john siad....I dont know what we will be but we will be like him (Jesus).
As for gaza ....if you look it up in the old testament I could not find one good thing said about it. Perhaps you can help.
MORE TO COME
IRAN
As the U.S. tries to negotiate with the terrorists which we said we dont I believe it will bring about a economic collapse as it seems everyone is getting into the tariff deals. I believe it will bring on the war in Ezekiel and the trib.
I believe the U.S. support for Israel has blessed us up into this point but has been compromised by the statement made by Mr.Trump
When he said...quote.... Israel would not have survived if it weren't for the U.S.
No deal will be reached with Iran as the lord said he will deal with them and the whole world will know it was God.
Enough for now....comments?
W
It need be said many Christians have made that galant effort through proselytizing there.Christians can take it back if they are truly devoted to God and ask God to help them take Dearborn, Michigan back. But how many Christians nowadays live righteously that their prayers are answered? So it's dependent on their walk with God.
However, Dearborn police have been,shall we say, persuaded to side with Allah.
Proselytizing doesn't work if it's a watered down gospel that is being preached.
It doesn't matter how many are on board for Allah. God can work with a few and it starts with prayer and being dedicated and focused on God and what He wants.
I really believe God removed the hedge of protection to that area because people aren't living right for God as He wants. You can see in the Bible that God does that to an area.
Isaiah 5:5 Now I will tell you what I am going to do to my vineyard: I will take away its hedge, and it will be destroyed; I will break down its wall, and it will be trampled.
I believe God did send help to Israel through the assistance of the US.
I read about the Yom Kippur War. Israel nearly lost that war if God hadn't sent new supplies of weapons and airplanes through the US it would have all been over for Isreal.
I think the US will continue to help Israel right until the last US Christian destined for martyrhood is beheaded. Then the few Christians left in the US will be rendered entirely helpless to help Israel as the nation of the US joins the world against her for Armageddon.