The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

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I should have been more precise. I do not believe scripture indicates the Holy Spirit one of three separate "persons." But rather, that God is one, and manifests Himself as the Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Spirit in regeneration. Great is the mystery. (1 Tim. 3:16, Col. 2:9-12)
You speak of three modes of Jesus—but at the expense of Scripture, this is what you think and believe.


No one can fully comprehend the Divine Nature of God—we are limited. Yet you seem to think you know otherwise.


That is pride.


We are approaching the Eternal Godhead reverently and humbly—not presumptuously.
 
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After reading many of the Post given here about Jesus; I feel that I too, should make a statement.

It seems to This Writer, that Jesus is not understood very well. That is; Who He was sent to, and why? Did Jeus die on The Cross? Scripture states that He indeed, did!
Then leave that as IT is!
Continuing, I have much to say about Him.

First, When The Scriptures are read: In what is Today called, The New Testament, One may read This.
Who do men say I am?
Jesus one day in His travels; ask this of His disciples. some of Them said: Some say You are this One, others, That One. Then He turned to Peter and ask Him: "Who do You say I am"?

Peter replies: "You are The Son Of Man"! To which Jesus replied: "You are correct" .

I have not seen this written on before; however, I am sure It has been.

My point here is THIS:

It being stated the Peter was correct about who Jesus was; brings up a very overlooked Topic! WHO IS JESUS ?
Peter said that He was the son of Man. What Man? See: Gen. 2:7.

Adam was a special man, not just a man of mankind. This is where The Quran speaks of This clearly. See Surah 2.

"Son of man, stand on Your feet, I am sending YOU to Isreal!
: Cain and Bel
From the above it is clearly seen who Jesus really was. He was Abel, resurrected! The One Cain killed. Cain being The Seed of Satan. This brings up another deep subject. Jehovah's seed, and Satan's seed: Cain and Abel! I will not enter into That here.

The point is This. "STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED OF GOD!

DeepSeeker
 

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Water did not replace the blood of Jesus. Anyone who teaches that doesn't know the word of God. God requires Blood for the removal of sin this is why the Scripture says in Hbrws 9:12-15

12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh,
14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.


col 1:20
20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

Eph 1:7

7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

You are making water more important than the Cross and the Blood of Jesus. Blasphemious.
Thank you for sharing HIS word, but they have nothing to do with your statement or my questions.

I'm not making anything, just sharing HIS WORD.

YOU SAID "Salvation occurs before baptism. Baptism is the first act of obedience for a new believer—an outward expression of the inward transformation.

HIS word says this is how we get rid of our sins.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

IF BEING baptizerd in JESUS name DOES NOT get rid of our sins. HOW DO WE GET RID OF THEM.

MY QUESTIONS ARE.

1. How can we be reborn and never get rid of our sins?
2. Where does HIS word say "Baptism is the first act of obedience for a new believer—an outward expression of the inward transformation"
3. What do you think we have to do to be reborn?

Your saying I'm making HIS word more important than HIS blood?
 

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Not in the least.

You said: "
....Did not the Father Speak when Jesus was being water-baptized? How did that happen if Jesus is the Father

Oh, that's right, Jesus is a ventriloquist."

Everything in that excerpt that closes the prior copy and paste you posted tells me,you dont know what we all are talking about when we discuss God and his words.

No one who is in Christ mocks Jesus and disrespects him with sarcasm as you did there.

You have nothing more to offer Christians discussing the Bible.
Contextual Response on the Oneness Viewpoint:


Let’s be honest and stay rooted in what Scripture actually reveals. Those who hold to the Oneness doctrine believe that God is one person who manifests Himself in different modes—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—but is not three distinct persons. They argue that these are just different roles or manifestations of Jesus.


However, Matthew 3:16–17 presents a clear moment where all three Persons of the Godhead are present and active at once:


“After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and settling on Him, and behold, a voice from the heavens said, ‘This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.’”

Those holding to Oneness theology will often say that Jesus was speaking to Himself.


But if we are honest with the text, that’s not what it says. The voice came from heaven, not from Jesus. The Son is being baptized, the Spirit is descending, and the Father is speaking.


To claim that Jesus threw His voice to make it sound like it came from heaven is not only speculative—it imposes something onto the text that isn’t there. It’s human reasoning trying to patch over what the plain reading contradicts.


This is a good time to apply a sound principle of biblical interpretation: Where the Word of God is silent, we should remain silent. We shouldn't force doctrines into Scripture when the text doesn't support them.


Sometimes the most faithful answer is, “I don’t know,” rather than crafting elaborate explanations that add to or distort Scripture.
 

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Yep, and why he is here on earth he is also in Heaven.
Jesus said, 'I must go' in John 14. But He said He would send a helper, another of the same kind, in the Greek translation.
I am not going to make up what I, nor you, can fully comprehend. Jesus did not lie.

Jesus said that this Comforter would be with you, in you, and come upon you in Chapter 14 of John. Jesus never said it was only him.
Yet it is him and the Father and the Spirit with distinction and personification, The will of the Father, the Obedient Son, and the Presence of God's Spirit.
 

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Thank you for sharing HIS word, but they have nothing to do with your statement or my questions.

I'm not making anything, just sharing HIS WORD.

YOU SAID "Salvation occurs before baptism. Baptism is the first act of obedience for a new believer—an outward expression of the inward transformation.

HIS word says this is how we get rid of our sins.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

IF BEING baptizerd in JESUS name DOES NOT get rid of our sins. HOW DO WE GET RID OF THEM.

MY QUESTIONS ARE.

1. How can we be reborn and never get rid of our sins?
2. Where does HIS word say "Baptism is the first act of obedience for a new believer—an outward expression of the inward transformation"
3. What do you think we have to do to be reborn?

Your saying I'm making HIS word more important than HIS blood?


Again, nowhere in the Bible is forgiveness of Sins done without the shedding of Blood, and it applied to the Mercy Seat.

Jesus did what bulls and goats could not do, which was to cover sin. Jesus Blood washed it away and removed the Judge of Death and punishment of hell.


One had to come to a saving grace before they were water baptized, or they were performing an act without being enlightened as to why they were being water baptized. As Paul SAID IN Romans 6.


Furthermore, proponents of water baptism in Jesus' name only added to salvation from What Jesus said in Matthew 28:19, John 3:16-19, Romans 6, and 10:9-11.

You made rules and formulas for salvation and made water greater power than the blood of Jesus. And trying to make it seem that we all agree that water baptism in Jesus' name is valid, but so is baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

It is those in Oneness, people like you, who are out of touch. Modern-day legalistic Pharisees, Even the Hitter of Onesness, have changed their position and caused a split within UPC and Apostolic churches.

Dude, you're a day late and a dollar short.
 

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After reading many of the Post given here about Jesus; I feel that I too, should make a statement.

It seems to This Writer, that Jesus is not understood very well. That is; Who He was sent to, and why? Did Jeus die on The Cross? Scripture states that He indeed, did!
Then leave that as IT is!
Continuing, I have much to say about Him.

First, When The Scriptures are read: In what is Today called, The New Testament, One may read This.
Who do men say I am?
Jesus one day in His travels; ask this of His disciples. some of Them said: Some say You are this One, others, That One. Then He turned to Peter and ask Him: "Who do You say I am"?

Peter replies: "You are The Son Of Man"! To which Jesus replied: "You are correct" .

I have not seen this written on before; however, I am sure It has been.

My point here is THIS:

It being stated the Peter was correct about who Jesus was; brings up a very overlooked Topic! WHO IS JESUS ?
Peter said that He was the son of Man. What Man? See: Gen. 2:7.

Adam was a special man, not just a man of mankind. This is where The Quran speaks of This clearly. See Surah 2.

"Son of man, stand on Your feet, I am sending YOU to Isreal!
: Cain and Bel
From the above it is clearly seen who Jesus really was. He was Abel, resurrected! The One Cain killed. Cain being The Seed of Satan. This brings up another deep subject. Jehovah's seed, and Satan's seed: Cain and Abel! I will not enter into That here.

The point is This. "STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED OF GOD!

DeepSeeker

Subtle, but did Peter say that? "Peter replies: "You are The Son Of Man"! To which Jesus replied: "You are correct" .


Matthew 16:13 -20



13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”

14 So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”


That is a critical point that was left out by you . Why?


Then Jesus said

17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.


99% doctrine, 1 % arsenic will kill you

It seems you did not want to deal with What Jesus said about HIS Father; why? Is it because Jesus is speaking with Authority in this text That the Father did something that Jesus did not tie to Himself as revealed to Peter?
 

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Subtle, but did Peter say that? "Peter replies: "You are The Son Of Man"! To which Jesus replied: "You are correct" .


Matthew 16:13 -20



13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”

14 So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”


That is a critical point that was left out by you . Why?


Then Jesus said

17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.


99% doctrine, 1 % arsenic will kill you

It seems you did not want to deal with What Jesus said about HIS Father; why? Is it because Jesus is speaking with Authority in this text That the Father did something that Jesus did not tie to Himself as revealed to Peter?

Or was it that Peter received From God that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of living God.
 

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Jesus said, 'I must go' in John 14. But He said He would send a helper, another of the same kind, in the Greek translation.
I am not going to make up what I, nor you, can fully comprehend. Jesus did not lie.

Jesus said that this Comforter would be with you, in you, and come upon you in Chapter 14 of John. Jesus never said it was only him.
Yet it is him and the Father and the Spirit with distinction and personification, The will of the Father, the Obedient Son, and the Presence of God's Spirit.
So there are three GODS?
 

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Again, nowhere in the Bible is forgiveness of Sins done without the shedding of Blood, and it applied to the Mercy Seat.

Jesus did what bulls and goats could not do, which was to cover sin. Jesus Blood washed it away and removed the Judge of Death and punishment of hell.


One had to come to a saving grace before they were water baptized, or they were performing an act without being enlightened as to why they were being water baptized. As Paul SAID IN Romans 6.


Furthermore, proponents of water baptism in Jesus' name only added to salvation from What Jesus said in Matthew 28:19, John 3:16-19, Romans 6, and 10:9-11.

You made rules and formulas for salvation and made water greater power than the blood of Jesus. And trying to make it seem that we all agree that water baptism in Jesus' name is valid, but so is baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

It is those in Oneness, people like you, who are out of touch. Modern-day legalistic Pharisees, Even the Hitter of Onesness, have changed their position and caused a split within UPC and Apostolic churches.

Dude, you're a day late and a dollar short.
 

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Again, nowhere in the Bible is forgiveness of Sins done without the shedding of Blood, and it applied to the Mercy Seat.

Jesus did what bulls and goats could not do, which was to cover sin. Jesus Blood washed it away and removed the Judge of Death and punishment of hell.


One had to come to a saving grace before they were water baptized, or they were performing an act without being enlightened as to why they were being water baptized. As Paul SAID IN Romans 6.


Furthermore, proponents of water baptism in Jesus' name only added to salvation from What Jesus said in Matthew 28:19, John 3:16-19, Romans 6, and 10:9-11.

You made rules and formulas for salvation and made water greater power than the blood of Jesus. And trying to make it seem that we all agree that water baptism in Jesus' name is valid, but so is baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

It is those in Oneness, people like you, who are out of touch. Modern-day legalistic Pharisees, Even the Hitter of Onesness, have changed their position and caused a split within UPC and Apostolic churches.

Dude, you're a day late and a dollar short.
I don't recall mentioning anything about what JESUS did or his blood did?? Did I?

Maybe I'm asking to many questions at one time.

Will anyone with sin enter Heaven?
 

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So there are three GODS?
LOL there is ij the word of God the incomprehensible Divine Nature of God

Who we see in their Word of God , As the Father, Creator of all things Genesis chapter one
This is seen in the Scriptures The Son who is the Word of God and God made Flesh John chapter one
There is the Spirit of God, who is also God seen in Scriptures who is also GOD Genesis chapter one and John chapter 14, 15


All three are seen in creation, scriptures, and in the relationship with man. Yet they are all one. Human rationale say "its there Gods ."

No it is not nor to I hold to that. All three are seen in the word of God and are God and yet still one how can that be from the question of limited man ability. With God all things are possible. Matthew 19:26

Roman chapter 1:18-22


18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

There are only three ways we know God on this side of heaven due to man's limitations.

General Revelation, as stated by God in the Roman one.
Special Revelation, The word of God
and Relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ by repentance and grace through faith in the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Roman 1:16
 

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I don't recall mentioning anything about what JESUS did or his blood did?? Did I?

Maybe I'm asking to many questions at one time.

Will anyone with sin enter Heaven?
LOL, the point is that the act of Jesus on the Cross for salvation is greater than the act of man in water Baptism. Don't be coy.
 

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I don't recall mentioning anything about what JESUS did or his blood did?? Did I?

Maybe I'm asking to many questions at one time.

Will anyone with sin enter Heaven?
The word of God says "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, " Heb 9:27
 

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Thank you for sharing HIS word, but they have nothing to do with your statement or my questions.

I'm not making anything, just sharing HIS WORD.

YOU SAID "Salvation occurs before baptism. Baptism is the first act of obedience for a new believer—an outward expression of the inward transformation.

HIS word says this is how we get rid of our sins.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

IF BEING baptizerd in JESUS name DOES NOT get rid of our sins. HOW DO WE GET RID OF THEM.

MY QUESTIONS ARE.

1. How can we be reborn and never get rid of our sins?
2. Where does HIS word say "Baptism is the first act of obedience for a new believer—an outward expression of the inward transformation"
3. What do you think we have to do to be reborn?

Your saying I'm making HIS word more important than HIS blood?

You are a dishonest person I said, " You are making water more important than the Cross and the Blood of Jesus. Blasphemious.
 

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FYI, Dwelling in the fullness of something doesn't mean limitation or nonexistence of the Father. It is not subtraction it is an addition. Yes, God is Spirit and His Spirit and has a Son who is also God. Jesus said He is the way, the truth ,and the life to the Father Jesus did not say THE fATHER IS non-existent
Of course the Father exists.
 

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Of course the Father exists.
If the Father exists, He is distinct from the Son. "I am my Father, are one." Greek is face-to-face. You can't be face-to-face with only one person. Jesus said there is the Father and even taught us to pray to the Father in Matthew chapter six and seven.

But you believe Jesus plays three roles of God. The Bible doesn't teach that. You don't fully understand the Divine nature of GOD. No one can. You are limited. Only pride and arrogance refuse to admit the truth. Pauls said we are looking through a window that is darkened.

1cor 13:2

"For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

Limitation, we can only know in part that which is needed for :

1 appropriate worship
2. righteous living
 

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LOL there is ij the word of God the incomprehensible Divine Nature of God

Who we see in their Word of God , As the Father, Creator of all things Genesis chapter one
This is seen in the Scriptures The Son who is the Word of God and God made Flesh John chapter one
There is the Spirit of God, who is also God seen in Scriptures who is also GOD Genesis chapter one and John chapter 14, 15


All three are seen in creation, scriptures, and in the relationship with man. Yet they are all one. Human rationale say "its there Gods ."

No it is not nor to I hold to that. All three are seen in the word of God and are God and yet still one how can that be from the question of limited man ability. With God all things are possible. Matthew 19:26

Roman chapter 1:18-22


18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

There are only three ways we know God on this side of heaven due to man's limitations.

General Revelation, as stated by God in the Roman one.
Special Revelation, The word of God
and Relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ by repentance and grace through faith in the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Roman 1:16
1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

2. Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]

3. Deuteronomy32:39 — See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

4. 2 Samuel 7:22 — Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

5. 1 Kings 8:60 — That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

6. 2 KINGS 5:15 — And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

7. 2 Kings 19:15 — And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.

8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 — O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

9. Nehemiah 9:6 — Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

10. Psalm 18:31 — For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

11. Psalm 86:10 — For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

12. Isaiah 37:16,20 — O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.

13. Isaiah43:10,11 — Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

14. Isaiah44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

15. Isaiah 45:21 — Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

16. Isaiah 46:9 — For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

17. Hosea 13:4 — Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

18. Joel 2:27 — And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

19. Zechariah 14:9 — And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

20. Mark 12:29-34 —And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

21. John 17:3 — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

22. Romans 3:30 — Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 — As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, andthat there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

24. Galatians 3:20 — Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

25. Ephesians 4:6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

26. 1 Timothy 1:17 — Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

27. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

28. James 2:19 — Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
 

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You speak of three modes of Jesus—but at the expense of Scripture, this is what you think and believe.


No one can fully comprehend the Divine Nature of God—we are limited. Yet you seem to think you know otherwise.


That is pride.


We are approaching the Eternal Godhead reverently and humbly—not presumptuously.
As I said, God is one, and manifests Himself as the Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Spirit in regeneration. Great is the mystery. (1 Tim. 3:16, Col. 2:9-12)

Pride has nothing to do with it; scripture reveals the truth:
""Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. John 14:9-11

Or, "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28

Or, The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Isaiah 40:3

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