The Intersection of Theoogy and Science

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The original Hebrew does not.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
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20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
 
Totally agree with this! Thanks for clarifying even further. I'd like to add, however, that yes theories can be disproved, but it's still the closest thing we have to "fact". I can say with a 99.99999% degree of confidence that the germ theory of disease will never be overturned or that the theory of evolution will never be overturned. People may fuss over the minute details of how evolution happened like in the quote just below this, but most definitely not that evolution happened in general. Science isn't in the "absolute fact" business. In fact, science can't really "prove" anything, it can only disprove things. The absolute best deduction of all the evidence obtained over the last 150+ years was that Darwin was right...at least right about the things that people want to talk about. He was wrong about some things too. No scientist is infallible.




Might I suggest that you should not "drink the Kool Aid". Scientists argue over many details. In fact, since we don't have a perfect fossil record of every species that ever existed, taxonomy is possible. If we had a perfect and detailed analysis of ever animal that ever walked earth, taxonomy would be a nightmare. It would be virtually impossible since all animals give birth to other animals in the same species. So, we are the same species as our parents and our children, yet minute changes over many many generations makes large differences, and that is why we have common ancestors with cockroaches and our X great grandparent was a fish. Now, to talk about the reverse of what I said, we actually have a VERY good fossil record and it keeps getting better and more expansive each day. You mentioned that we have "dinobirds". This is true. We also have "reptile-mammals" and "fish-amphibians". In fact, some animals are SUCH a perfect example of an "intermediate" that we wouldn't know to call them reptile-like-mammals or mammal-like-reptiles. It makes it very difficult to classify anything when we start getting an abundance of these creatures with the right features. That should be no surprise though. It's exactly what you'd expect if Darwin was right.

Nothing that you brought up challenges evolution, I hope you know. All it does is show that scientists make mistakes that eventually get worked out and fixed and improved upon. It's not a bad that they "keep changing the facts". Do you feel that this makes science untrustworthy? On the contrary, it's a GOOD thing to be willing to change your mind, and no belief in science should be held so deeply that it's at a level of an incontrovertible fact. No student should feel that they cannot challenge their teacher. As it happens, these "theories" really are the best possible conclusions that the very best minds can come up with and that is one reason that I find it so bizarre to see laypeople challenge scientific theories as if they have any training in the subject at all. Where did they get their PHD from? There is a reason scientists think what they think about reality. Birds did come from dinosaurs, by the time. And sometimes the word "species" can be a little confusing or muddled. Most of the time it means animals that cannot reproduce or reproduce fertile offspring. Neanderthals still very likely fit this description. Or if they don't, perhaps "subspecies" would be a more appropriate taxonomic rank? They were different than us but also very similar.

P.S.

Dino, I'm not ignoring your question on page 1 about gender, I just didn't have the time to go into as much detail as I wanted to. Hopefully I can respond to you tomorrow night. It's been a hectic few days, not much internet time. Take care everyone :)


In the beginning God created, thats all that was needed, no evolution involved.
 
I go by what scripture says...not by what your imagination conjures up...


So do I. Not what your imagination conjurs up (it goes both ways these arguments and responses are quite childish)


Show us where day seven ended like the previous six.

Good luck

I already did,

And God rested (past tense) on the seventh day. so we too are to rest on the seventh day (Sabbath)

Again, What your imagination conjures up does not matter, What scripture says does.

If God is still resting, day 7 is still ongoing. Then we would have to work 6 days, then be in rest the rest of our lives. Maybe you are a proponent of this?

 
Jesus added bread and fish to feed 5000. Didf Jesus creat it ready to eat, Or did he create it from scratch, then have to prepare it..

He created it ready to eat. Just like he did the universe, ready to sustain life..

True that, Then it's possible the Red Sea was ready to sustain life with a parted path cross it long before men were sent to cross it.
 
True that, Then it's possible the Red Sea was ready to sustain life with a parted path cross it long before men were sent to cross it.

True that!

And it is possible that light from the furthest start reach earth on the day it was created, so man could use it as it was intended to be used.
 
What is "theoogy"? :confused:
And now for our musical interlude.....
Everyone haveth thy rest, and do get down.
Please.....Boogie Oogie Oogie.....eth. :cool:
[video=youtube;hGo5g7PJBQE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGo5g7PJBQE&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
 
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
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20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.


That's English...not Hebrew...
 
True that!

And it is possible that light from the furthest start reach earth on the day it was created, so man could use it as it was intended to be used.

But of coarse a person can look at HE 1523-0901 star in our own galaxy, it's been around since the creation of the universe.
 
Please show us where Scripture says Jesus is Mohammed. This should be interesting.

You keep attempting to resurrect this material, on dissimilar threads...your lack of Arabic knowledge must really bother you.

Feel free to open a new thread for further discussion, if you wish...
 
I already did,

And God rested (past tense) on the seventh day. so we too are to rest on the seventh day (Sabbath)

Again, What your imagination conjures up does not matter, What scripture says does.

If God is still resting, day 7 is still ongoing. Then we would have to work 6 days, then be in rest the rest of our lives. Maybe you are a proponent of this?



'Resting' means ceased in His creative acts...its not because God was tired.

Ceasing from creation does not show an end to day seven.

Keep searching...
 
I like theoogy on my hotdogs.
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I agree. Theoogy is also a good condiment on hamburgers but should be spread thinly and not just sloppily glopped on.
Yes! I'd almost forgotten.
The dance that doubles as a condiment.
Almost a spiritual experience.

I recall the days when the dancing girls
would theoogy in mini-skirts.
(I think it was illegal in pants)

That's English...not Hebrew...
Ooygy-vey! :p
 
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Yes! I'd almost forgotten.
The dance that doubles as a condiment.
Almost a spiritual experience.

I recall the days when the dancing girls
would theoogy in mini-skirts.
(I think it was illegal in pants)
Right?? Why doesn't anyone talk about these things anymore?!

I'm pretty sure theoogy is ancient Hebrew for something, too.
 
'Resting' means ceased in His creative acts...its not because God was tired.

Ceasing from creation does not show an end to day seven.

Keep searching...

1. I never said he was tired. So please stop assuming. Again, That is childish, If you want to play childish games, maybe you need to find a kiddie forum.

2. Genesis 2:3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Scripture proves the seventh day was one day. And it had an end just like the first 6 days, For in it, God rested, and he sanctified that day above all others. and it later became known as the Sabbath day.

Again, Stop trying to twist scripture.

 
But of coarse a person can look at HE 1523-0901 star in our own galaxy, it's been around since the creation of the universe.

This is true, But one star does not tell us the seasons. The stars had a reason.

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;

We can determine season by the ways the stars are positioned in the sky, and where they are located.
 
Right?? Why doesn't anyone talk about these things anymore?!

I'm pretty sure theoogy is ancient Hebrew for something, too.
Not enough empirical evidence, since it's origin was antedeloopian.

Led to much debate, and went the way of the GAP theory.
Although, recent excavations are revealing
they think they may have found a GAP in ancient Mesopotamia.

Interestingly enough, they think they sold pants there then, too,
so the debate may be revived.

Now if you'll excuse me.....
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