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You attacked too many things at the same time. I can only answer one at a time. If you only see the dirty rags a person has you forget to see the true beauty they can have. You explicitly said that if catholics read the bible that would see the heresies, I focused on that one for the moment. That you do not believe in catholicism is fine, but to bear false witness is another thing of it's own.
Maybe the way you presented it. I would gladly discuss things with you, you do not have to believe them. But stop falsifying the church that trough death and persecution put together the bible you read.
Maybe the way you presented it. I would gladly discuss things with you, you do not have to believe them. But stop falsifying the church that trough death and persecution put together the bible you read.
T
Google it I said. I even told the name of the pagan temple, for you to google. Google is a
search engine. You can find it with ease, but here's the link:
Our Lady of the Sign-Ark of Mercy | Our Lady of the Sign | The Sanctuary of the Divine Mercy
Read the Bible. The harlot is sitting on the mercy seat and you try to justify it.
2Sa 6:2 And David arose, and went with all the people that were with him from Baale of Judah, to bring up from thence the ark of God, whose name is called by the name of the LORD of hosts that dwelleth between the cherubims.
Whose image is seated between the Cherubims? Its the great harlot dressed in her sins.
God dwells between the cherubims, but who is there "between the cherubims?" Its the
Roman Catholic goddess Mary. The goddess is dwelling between the cherubims. That is
God's place alone. You can't justify this. They made her God. This is what it means.
All pretense is gone now. They made it official, by putting the idol of the great harlot
between the cherubims and it says, "THIS IS OUR GOD."
search engine. You can find it with ease, but here's the link:
Our Lady of the Sign-Ark of Mercy | Our Lady of the Sign | The Sanctuary of the Divine Mercy
Read the Bible. The harlot is sitting on the mercy seat and you try to justify it.
2Sa 6:2 And David arose, and went with all the people that were with him from Baale of Judah, to bring up from thence the ark of God, whose name is called by the name of the LORD of hosts that dwelleth between the cherubims.
Whose image is seated between the Cherubims? Its the great harlot dressed in her sins.
God dwells between the cherubims, but who is there "between the cherubims?" Its the
Roman Catholic goddess Mary. The goddess is dwelling between the cherubims. That is
God's place alone. You can't justify this. They made her God. This is what it means.
All pretense is gone now. They made it official, by putting the idol of the great harlot
between the cherubims and it says, "THIS IS OUR GOD."
Do you know what a monstrance is? It is where catholics place the Eucharist which we truly believe is the body of christ. you see that "hole" in her chest, that is where the second person in the trinity is placed, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. you do not seem to understand that it all points to Jesus.
To be clear this picture you have posted will HOLD JESUS CHRIST BODY in the blessed virgin Mary's chest. This does not make Him small, remember it is bread turned to the body of Jesus.
To be clear this picture you have posted will HOLD JESUS CHRIST BODY in the blessed virgin Mary's chest. This does not make Him small, remember it is bread turned to the body of Jesus.
T
Here's what is going on. There is coming an anti-christ, who will go into the Most Holy Place and
set up an image, an abomination that make desolate. The Most Holy Place is where the Ark, with
the Mercy Seat (God's throne) was kept. When the rebuilt temple is made, the Anti-christ is going
to go into the Most Holy Place and set up an image and call himself god.
Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall
take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Now look at the image again
You got a display of an image in the Most Holy Place, where it should not be. This is something
the anti-christ is going to do in real life. The Roman Catholic church can't set up a graven image
in the Most Holy Place, because the Jews haven't built the temple yet, but they can do this,
which is the next best thing. The picture above is an abomination. Its a foreshadow of what
the anti-christ will do.
To make images is an abomination from the very start. To make a display for worship, of an image
in the Most Holy Place is like a double abomination. But you.....you are going to try and justify
it all and tell why its Godly. And you,.....you want to say I'm giving a false witness.
But there it is, a display of an abomination that make desolate and RC's think its holy and right.
For me, I wouldn't try to defend this. I would get out.
set up an image, an abomination that make desolate. The Most Holy Place is where the Ark, with
the Mercy Seat (God's throne) was kept. When the rebuilt temple is made, the Anti-christ is going
to go into the Most Holy Place and set up an image and call himself god.
Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall
take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
Now look at the image again
You got a display of an image in the Most Holy Place, where it should not be. This is something
the anti-christ is going to do in real life. The Roman Catholic church can't set up a graven image
in the Most Holy Place, because the Jews haven't built the temple yet, but they can do this,
which is the next best thing. The picture above is an abomination. Its a foreshadow of what
the anti-christ will do.
To make images is an abomination from the very start. To make a display for worship, of an image
in the Most Holy Place is like a double abomination. But you.....you are going to try and justify
it all and tell why its Godly. And you,.....you want to say I'm giving a false witness.
But there it is, a display of an abomination that make desolate and RC's think its holy and right.
For me, I wouldn't try to defend this. I would get out.
To claim catholics do what you say is not to understand what has been written, you focus only in one passage ,but there are others that say otherwise. Does the bible contradict it self, No. The bible is very clear on this subject.
[quick note: there are people who do worship and they are utterly wrong, they need to be corrected and/or excommunicated from the church]
God said to make them
Exodus 25:17-22
1 Chronicles 28:18-19
Ezekiel 41:17–18
God said how to used them [look at them]
Num. 21:8–9
When people adore statues God does not like it
2 Kgs. 18:4
What about bowing, is all bowing worship.
In the orient people bow to each other and do not worship
People kneel to Kings and not worship
Clearly we can physically do this but not worship at all.
Do not focus so much on what you can't do, put your energy and love towards what we can do, and what it is pleasing to God.
[quick note: there are people who do worship and they are utterly wrong, they need to be corrected and/or excommunicated from the church]
God said to make them
Exodus 25:17-22
1 Chronicles 28:18-19
Ezekiel 41:17–18
God said how to used them [look at them]
Num. 21:8–9
When people adore statues God does not like it
2 Kgs. 18:4
What about bowing, is all bowing worship.
In the orient people bow to each other and do not worship
People kneel to Kings and not worship
Clearly we can physically do this but not worship at all.
Do not focus so much on what you can't do, put your energy and love towards what we can do, and what it is pleasing to God.
T
Trax, you made an image when you photographed your cat. The image isn't the issue, it's whether or not it causes you to worship such a thing.
Also, I think there's much more danger to Christian from the Islamic side of the tracks than anything from the Catholic Church. You do realise how fast their religion is growing all over the world, don't you? And how much extreme persecution they mete out to Christians the world over?
Also, I think there's much more danger to Christian from the Islamic side of the tracks than anything from the Catholic Church. You do realise how fast their religion is growing all over the world, don't you? And how much extreme persecution they mete out to Christians the world over?
T
No, I didn't "create" an image, from my concept of what a cat should look like. I don't pray to that
picture.
Tintin, are you for or against an image, that doesn't represent God in anyway shape or form, sitting
on the Mercy Seat, which is God's throne, that is in the Most Holy place? This is what the anti-christ
is going to do. Are you for it or against it? This isn't a trivial matter. Its one step removed
from what the anti-christ is going to do. To have a statue is one thing, that is just run of the mill
paganism. To set it up on the Mercy Seat, between the Cherubims, where God dwells is
an abomination. This is operating in the spirit of the anti-christ.
picture.
Tintin, are you for or against an image, that doesn't represent God in anyway shape or form, sitting
on the Mercy Seat, which is God's throne, that is in the Most Holy place? This is what the anti-christ
is going to do. Are you for it or against it? This isn't a trivial matter. Its one step removed
from what the anti-christ is going to do. To have a statue is one thing, that is just run of the mill
paganism. To set it up on the Mercy Seat, between the Cherubims, where God dwells is
an abomination. This is operating in the spirit of the anti-christ.
D
It's important to keep in mind Trax that your average Catholic has no idea how utterly steeped in paganism their system is. Saying someone is not a Christian just because they happened to be brought up Catholic and don't know any better isn't a very good way to look at it in my opinion. That organization only thrives because the people that do know are sitting on top of all the people that don't know...which is the majority of them
K
Acts 7:38 demonstrates that the church existed at Sinai with the Jews. When Jesus says "I will build my church", he used the word for expansion, not for new construction. Here is the Catholic Church's proof that they are the same church click>The book of the popes (Liber pontificalis) I- - Google Books
Even if you accept that Peter had such a right, everything hinges on the idea that Peter appointed a Roman (who probably did not speak Hebrew) to head the entire church, as opposed to only the Roman church 8 years before Jerusalem fell, when there was still a large Jewish Christian Church. This is the same Peter who needed a special vision just to talk to Cornelius.
Even if you accept that Peter had such a right, everything hinges on the idea that Peter appointed a Roman (who probably did not speak Hebrew) to head the entire church, as opposed to only the Roman church 8 years before Jerusalem fell, when there was still a large Jewish Christian Church. This is the same Peter who needed a special vision just to talk to Cornelius.