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timberdoodle said:
I am looking for a respectful yes or no. Not into games or endless posts.

You tell me. I am not going to try to decipher from your posts and I do not have a magic decoder ring. :D

A yes or no will suffice.

Timberdoodle
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I wonder what works are these that follow the saints hmmm definitely not EVIL WORKS

Revelations 14

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Note it sayKEEP commandments and faith, not faith alone hmmm just a thought
 
Isdaniel said:
I wonder what works are these that follow the saints hmmm definitely not EVIL WORKS

Revelations 14

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Note it sayKEEP commandments and faith, not faith alone hmmm just a thought
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Good Night
 
timberdoodle said:
No you don't.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost
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When one is born again which is save by grace and not by works can he sit and do evil works or does he have to do good works ?


Revelation 22

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
 
timberdoodle said:
No you don't.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost
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Isaiah 64

6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


Matthew 19
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Note the other four commandment were not mention does that mean we can worship idols ?

When you are back shew me where in romans 14 mentiones the word sabbath ?
 
To timberdoodle and Kerry


Mark 12

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.



what does it mean to Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, lets see

romans 13

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

I wonder why it was quoted from the ten commandments hmm and note not all the commanments were quoted . Does that mean they are not for us eg the 5th one to obey your parents hmm just a thought

 
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2000 years later and we are still debating the sabbath being on a saturday or a sunday.


The sabbath is an age. We are told that no man can work (because work is debt) and that even the animals will rest!

Now you can believe what you want but the sabbath starts in earnest with the economic collapse of the world.

Most won't work because they won't get paid. Countries and armies will war with each other and kill one another off still seeking their manna from the field. When this begins we are commanded to stay put and help our brothers out as we will learn that we have more than enough to make it.
 
SpiritofFire said:
2000 years later and we are still debating the sabbath being on a saturday or a sunday.


The sabbath is an age. We are told that no man can work (because work is debt) and that even the animals will rest!

Now you can believe what you want but the sabbath starts in earnest with the economic collapse of the world.

Most won't work because they won't get paid. Countries and armies will war with each other and kill one another off still seeking their manna from the field. When this begins we are commanded to stay put and help our brothers out as we will learn that we have more than enough to make it.
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God has his 7th day the devil has the 1st day

god has a church the devi has a church get the picture
 
Isdaniel said:
God has his 7th day the devil has the 1st day

god has a church the devi has a church get the picture
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No I don't. My God is such on Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday, and sunday.

Again believe what you want. The true sabbath has nothing to to with the aforementioned days of the week.

But I do know that once the economy falls, who's going to butcher our meat without getting paid? The animals will finally rest too.
 
Isdaniel said:
.... yet you keep the 9 same old covenant yet disregard the the 4 th why
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Abel through to Jacob kept those 9 as well. But there were more than just 10 commandments under the old covenant that if broken were punishable by death. Why “disregard” the rest? But some will say “But the 10 were the most important because God thundered them from mount Sinai.” But this is not so. King Saul disobeyed a commandment from God that was not thundered from mount Sinai and he lost his life and the kingship. And also, what was God to do? Thunder from the mountain every statute and commandment he told Moses to write down? He limited them to 10 and they could barely stand those and pleaded with Moses that He should never speak to them again.

However, under the new covenant there are even more commandments than under the old covenant and they’re many times more difficult to keep. Under the new covenant there are an unlimited number of commandments that communicate deep within the inner recesses of the soul. All one has to do is read all the teachings of Christ and the apostles. We are commanded to not even think about lusting after a woman, we are commanded not to worry about our physical necessities, we are commanded to love our enemies and on and on…. only the very elect of God can rise to this level…. Resting for a day each week from physical work is kids stuff compared to the commands for the elect of God that transform the soul and renew the mind to emulate the very Mind of God the Father Himself.

 
SpiritofFire said:
No I don't. My God is such on Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday, and sunday.

Again believe what you want. The true sabbath has nothing to to with the aforementioned days of the week.

But I do know that once the economy falls, who's going to butcher our meat without getting paid? The animals will finally rest too.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm yet their is going to be the mark of the beast no buyinh and selling unless the mark hmmmm ironicalll you think of a make up rest
 
SpiritofFire said:
No I don't. My God is such on Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday, and sunday.

Again believe what you want. The true sabbath has nothing to to with the aforementioned days of the week.

But I do know that once the economy falls, who's going to butcher our meat without getting paid? The animals will finally rest too.
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Revelation 13

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 
Rockbysea said:
Abel through to Jacob kept those 9 as well. But there were more than just 10 commandments under the old covenant that if broken were punishable by death. Why “disregard” the rest? But some will say “But the 10 were the most important because God thundered them from mount Sinai.” But this is not so. King Saul disobeyed a commandment from God that was not thundered from mount Sinai and he lost his life and the kingship. And also, what was God to do? Thunder from the mountain every statute and commandment he told Moses to write down? He limited them to 10 and they could barely stand those and pleaded with Moses that He should never speak to them again.

However, under the new covenant there are even more commandments than under the old covenant and they’re many times more difficult to keep. Under the new covenant there are an unlimited number of commandments that communicate deep within the inner recesses of the soul. All one has to do is read all the teachings of Christ and the apostles. We are commanded to not even think about lusting after a woman, we are commanded not to worry about our physical necessities, we are commanded to love our enemies and on and on…. only the very elect of God can rise to this level…. Resting for a day each week from physical work is kids stuff compared to the commands for the elect of God that transform the soul and renew the mind to emulate the very Mind of God the Father Himself.

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The law of God is the bible , i mentioned the 9 because it is the same time sabbath was given on two tables of stone but people only want to keep the 9 in spirit but not the 4th hmmmm
 
Isdaniel said:
Revelation 13

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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What can I buy and sell without money? And without it 30000 children die everyday? Please listen to me and judge my words. Sooner or later we will be a witness to this.
 
Rockbysea said:
Abel through to Jacob kept those 9 as well. But there were more than just 10 commandments under the old covenant that if broken were punishable by death. Why “disregard” the rest? But some will say “But the 10 were the most important because God thundered them from mount Sinai.” But this is not so. King Saul disobeyed a commandment from God that was not thundered from mount Sinai and he lost his life and the kingship. And also, what was God to do? Thunder from the mountain every statute and commandment he told Moses to write down? He limited them to 10 and they could barely stand those and pleaded with Moses that He should never speak to them again.

However, under the new covenant there are even more commandments than under the old covenant and they’re many times more difficult to keep. Under the new covenant there are an unlimited number of commandments that communicate deep within the inner recesses of the soul. All one has to do is read all the teachings of Christ and the apostles. We are commanded to not even think about lusting after a woman, we are commanded not to worry about our physical necessities, we are commanded to love our enemies and on and on…. only the very elect of God can rise to this level…. Resting for a day each week from physical work is kids stuff compared to the commands for the elect of God that transform the soul and renew the mind to emulate the very Mind of God the Father Himself.

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What is the law of Moses ?
 
SpiritofFire said:
What can I buy and sell without money? And without it 30000 children die everyday? Please listen to me and judge my words. Sooner or later we will be a witness to this.
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The scripture cannot be broken there are other ways to buy stuff without literal physical money in hand now we have credit cards . The bible says their will be buying and selling for those that have the mark even the bible says that the economies of the world will crash. Yet the beast will control everything for buying and selling
 
Isdaniel said:
The scripture cannot be broken there are other ways to buy stuff without literal physical money in hand now we have credit cards . The bible says their will be buying and selling for those that have the mark even the bible says that the economies of the world will crash. Yet the beast will control everything for buying and selling
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And ALL of those ways will be burned in the fire when the system crashes. Money, barter, and whatever else you can think of! It is time man move past his childish ways!
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
You've stumbled at the stumbling stone hmmmmm
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I wonder if it is only the ten commandments or the bible God is speaking about hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Joshua 1

7 Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper withersoever thou goest.
8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.
 
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SpiritofFire said:
And ALL of those ways will be burned in the fire when the system crashes. Money, barter, and whatever else you can think of! It is time man move past his childish ways!
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Do you see this as the finacial crisis ?
Revelation 6

5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
 

Could someone shew me from the bible what is the sinners prayer i have looked and cant find it anywhere in there
 
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