THE TRINITY, THE MYSTERY UNVEILLED.

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hastrup said:
The Trinity doctrine can never be understood with our approach towards the subject matter. We are far from understanding the Trinity if the only thing we could find suitable enough to liken God's image is an egg or the forms of water.

Genesis 1: 26
And God said, let us make man in our own image, after our LIKENESS.

The only thing our God can be likened with is man. How is the man created? Spirit, Soul and body. These three make up the Adam you know.

God also has a Soul in the person of the Holy Spirit ( Job 23:13 and Hebrews 10:38 ) and a Spiritual body in the person of Christ Jesus. ( Colossians 2:9 ).

If Adam's Soirit, Soul, and body make him one Adam then God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one God.

Is the trinity preached in the Bible? No, it's No because our God is one God. From the old testament to the new, nowhere it was written otherwise.

Genesis5:1, Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 45:5, 1 Corinthians 8:4, Mark 12:26, 1 Timothy 2:5 All testifies to our God being one God. James 2: 19 said even the devil believes in the oneness of God

Jesus in John 14:7, and John 10:30, Jesus made a direct statement to that also.

When you decide to believe what to want to believe then the Holy Spirit will do little. No one here knows better than the Bible. If we don't believe what was written with scriptural evidence then I will say I regret starting this topic
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DavidTree said:
TRUTH = Elohim is 3 Persons of the Godhead = Father Son Holy Spirit and are present in Genesis ch1 and more.

Do you have any scriptures that denote the Son as the "waters" in Genesis ch1?
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yes, John chapter One The Word made flesh is Jesus who has always been.
 
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CS1 said:
it is not Pentecostalism. Oneness has Pentecostals who hold to this doctrine Mainly UPC, and Apostolic, there are groups and denominations that do not hold to the pentacostel experience but are very much Modalistic Modalism and Sabellianism. these are errors and unbiblical.

I am a pentecostal and belief the Trinity is well seen in the word of God. However the word Trinity is not in the Bible, it is a theological Concept I believe is Biblical. Furthermore, when we approach the Eternal Godhead we must do so with Humility and reverence because we are incapable of knowing fully all there is to know of the Divine nature of the Godhead. Nor can we fully know because our minds are still battling the flesh until we are transformed. Then we will know Him as HE is and see Him as He is.
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Pentecost or oneness or what ever, I'm sorry to say that I don't really know what they are all about. I got my revelations from the Holy Spirit. I only desire to write a book and the Holy Spirit helped me to all those things I wrote. I'm not even a pastor nor did I hear it preached to me by someone.
 
hastrup said:
The Trinity doctrine can never be understood with our approach towards the subject matter. We are far from understanding the Trinity if the only thing we could find suitable enough to liken God's image is an egg or the forms of water.

Genesis 2:7
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I agree but I don't think of the trinity like an egg or forms of water. My view is actually quite simple. Here's a hint: Jesus of Nazareth is the Son because He is Spiritually identical to God the Father. Jesus is God because, in effect, He's the exact representation of God:

Hebrews 1:3 KJV
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Jesus of Nazareth taught that whoever someone is spiritually like to is their father. Those who are children of the devil go about their father's business:

John 8:44 KJV
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Those who are children of God will be going about their Father's business:

Luke 2:49 KJV
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

By being "in Christ" we are actually literally in Christ, spiritually speaking, and are shielded from the wrath of God. That's why we are called the body of Christ because we are in Christ's Spiritual body:

1 Thessalonians 5:9 KJV
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

I know this is quite a complex subject with no mutual consensus because we're speaking of heavenly things and we are from earth. Few of us seem to really be capable of grasping this subject until we see it ourselves.
 
hastrup said:
Pentecost or oneness or what ever, I'm sorry to say that I don't really know what they are all about. I got my revelations from the Holy Spirit. I only desire to write a book and the Holy Spirit helped me to all those things I wrote. I'm not even a pastor nor did I hear it preached to me by someone.
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I have moved on from this discussion about Pentecostals. all children of God receive illumination from the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit already wrote a book, 66 of them and over 40 writers :). I am a minster because God called me to be one :) yet I am still a student of the word. His word.
 
hastrup said:
Pentecost or oneness or what ever, I'm sorry to say that I don't really know what they are all about. I got my revelations from the Holy Spirit. I only desire to write a book and the Holy Spirit helped me to all those things I wrote. I'm not even a pastor nor did I hear it preached to me by someone.
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It is a Beautiful thing when the Holy Spirit opens the Scripture to us to see deep into the Treasures of Heaven = His Word.

Just a word of caution: "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,"

The most important way to test the spirits is thru the Word = "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Scripture never contradicts itself.
As a born-again son of God, HE walks us thru His Word leading us to green pasture where we are nourished and find Rest.
As you know, the Rest of God is Christ and His Holy Spirit.
Make sure that the words you hear fully agree with every aspect of Truth from Genesis to Revelation.
Any deviation, however subtle, can and does lead to opinions that may not agree with the Complete View of Scripture.

"How can two walk together unless they agree."
"He has shown you, O man, what is good; And what does the LORD require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God."
 
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