The US Joins WW3

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Insults are all you have. No sub for rational arguments. Why don't you punt to a youtube? Along with a bunch of lame assumptions about never-ending war.
That is not an insult, it is simply an appropriate description. Already we have seen Trump behave exactly like Lucy and so anyone still taking him at his word is behaving like Charlie Brown.

For example, are we really close to signing a peace treaty? Or just a "memorandum of understanding"? And who exactly is going to sign it? And if we are close to peace why are they shooting at each other in the Strait? Does anyone really thing the IRGC is going to give up all their demands or that Trump is going to give up all his demands? If we were truly close Trump would have said something like this: "I just got off the phone with the Supreme leader, they are willing to give up the claim to $24 billion, and they are also willing to agree that they have no control over the Strait, however, we still have to iron out the logistics for the Uranium and making sure they don't get a nuclear weapon". If he said something substantive then yes, we are close, but instead it is simply "it is near" and "soon". 0 Substance. Meanwhile the iranian leaders deny everything.
 
That is not an insult, it is simply an appropriate description.
Yeah it is an insult and you are rationalizing.

Already we have seen Trump behave exactly like Lucy and so anyone still taking him at his word is behaving like Charlie Brown.
Where did i say i take Trump at his word? I referenced other sources. Trump is always positive and hyperbolic. The difference with Trump is the velvet glove conceals more of an iron fist as Iran is finding out. Their original leaders are wiped out and their Navy and air force have been severely degraded and largely neutralized as conventional fighting forces.

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For example, are we really close to signing a peace treaty? Or just a "memorandum of understanding"?
I do not care as long as it gets the USA out of the Iran mess. We have problems on our own side of the pond. On reflection and looking at it from the rear views, we should never have got involved in the first place

And who exactly is going to sign it?
I do not care who signs it. I/we only care about exit strategies. If you are on the other side of the pond then you guys handle it. As is the USA is drawing down USA forces out of Europe and that is why we voted Trump in. We have problems of our own and we also have debt. Foreign aid makes no sense to me when we are in debt

And if we are close to peace why are they shooting at each other in the Strait?
That should be obvious even to you.
Does anyone really thing the IRGC is going to give up all their demands or that Trump is going to give up all his demands?
We will see and the point being it will end for the USA. It is an Islamofascist regime.

If we were truly close Trump would have said something like this: "I just got off the phone with the Supreme leader, they are willing to give up the claim to $24 billion, and they are also willing to agree that they have no control over the Strait, however, we still have to iron out the logistics for the Uranium and making sure they don't get a nuclear weapon". If he said something substantive then yes, we are close, but instead it is simply "it is near" and "soon". 0 Substance. Meanwhile the iranian leaders deny everything.
Did you just pull all of this out of your backside? Trump is not Obama with the pallets of cash. Your claim that Iranian leaders deny everything is simply incorrect along with zero substance.
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How optimistic are the Iranian leaders?


Recent Statements from Key Figures (as of mid-June 2026): Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has been the most positive publicly. On June 12–13, he stated that a memorandum of understanding (often called the "Islamabad Memorandum") "has never been closer" and that an "understanding has been reached on the majority of issues." He cautioned against media speculation on details and noted that nuclear program terms would be finalized later (within ~60 days after an initial ceasefire).

dw.com

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokespeople have confirmed progress ("most of the text finalized") but repeatedly downplay immediacy. They say no final signing is set for specific dates (e.g., not June 14), accuse the US of changing positions or adding new demands, and stress that nothing is fully concluded.

theguardian.com

President Masoud Pezeshkian and others defend negotiations as necessary for Iran's economy and dignity while insisting on red lines (e.g., ending the naval blockade, sanctions relief, and no "surrender" on nuclear rights).

iranintl.com

Broader Context and Internal Dynamics:There are fractures within Iranian leadership, particularly from hardliners (e.g., IRGC-linked voices) who project defiance publicly to domestic audiences — emphasizing "victory" through resistance and warning against trusting the US. US officials assess that most of the system supports a deal, with dissent being "minimal," but hardliners want terms that maximize Iran's gains.

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The Supreme Leader (Mojtaba Khamenei) is seen as having approved broad contours of a framework (ceasefire, Strait of Hormuz reopening, nuclear steps), but communication delays and his guarded role add caution. Iran often uses intermediaries (Pakistan, Qatar, etc.) and leaks terms favorably.

theguardian.com

Overall tone: Pragmatic hope driven by war fatigue and economic pressure, tempered by deep distrust of the US, demands for guarantees, and a narrative of negotiating "from strength." Progress on a limited initial deal (ceasefire + Hormuz) seems real, but full implementation remains uncertain.
 

BREAKING: Protests ERUPT In Iran Over IRGC Surrendering To Trump - Infighting Clashes In Tehran​

 
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Yeah it is an insult and you are rationalizing.

Where did i say i take Trump at his word? I referenced other sources. Trump is always positive and hyperbolic. The difference with Trump is the velvet glove conceals more of an iron fist as Iran is finding out. Their original leaders are wiped out and their Navy and air force have been severely degraded and largely neutralized as conventional fighting forces.

bbc.com

I do not care as long as it gets the USA out of the Iran mess. We have problems on our own side of the pond. On reflection and looking at it from the rear views, we should never have got involved in the first place

I do not care who signs it. I/we only care about exit strategies. If you are on the other side of the pond then you guys handle it. As is the USA is drawing down USA forces out of Europe and that is why we voted Trump in. We have problems of our own and we also have debt. Foreign aid makes no sense to me when we are in debt

That should be obvious even to you.
We will see and the point being it will end for the USA. It is an Islamofascist regime.

Did you just pull all of this out of your backside? Trump is not Obama with the pallets of cash. Your claim that Iranian leaders deny everything is simply incorrect along with zero substance.
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How optimistic are the Iranian leaders?


Recent Statements from Key Figures (as of mid-June 2026): Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has been the most positive publicly. On June 12–13, he stated that a memorandum of understanding (often called the "Islamabad Memorandum") "has never been closer" and that an "understanding has been reached on the majority of issues." He cautioned against media speculation on details and noted that nuclear program terms would be finalized later (within ~60 days after an initial ceasefire).

dw.com

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokespeople have confirmed progress ("most of the text finalized") but repeatedly downplay immediacy. They say no final signing is set for specific dates (e.g., not June 14), accuse the US of changing positions or adding new demands, and stress that nothing is fully concluded.

theguardian.com

President Masoud Pezeshkian and others defend negotiations as necessary for Iran's economy and dignity while insisting on red lines (e.g., ending the naval blockade, sanctions relief, and no "surrender" on nuclear rights).

iranintl.com

Broader Context and Internal Dynamics:There are fractures within Iranian leadership, particularly from hardliners (e.g., IRGC-linked voices) who project defiance publicly to domestic audiences — emphasizing "victory" through resistance and warning against trusting the US. US officials assess that most of the system supports a deal, with dissent being "minimal," but hardliners want terms that maximize Iran's gains.

cnn.com

The Supreme Leader (Mojtaba Khamenei) is seen as having approved broad contours of a framework (ceasefire, Strait of Hormuz reopening, nuclear steps), but communication delays and his guarded role add caution. Iran often uses intermediaries (Pakistan, Qatar, etc.) and leaks terms favorably.

theguardian.com

Overall tone: Pragmatic hope driven by war fatigue and economic pressure, tempered by deep distrust of the US, demands for guarantees, and a narrative of negotiating "from strength." Progress on a limited initial deal (ceasefire + Hormuz) seems real, but full implementation remains uncertain.
OK, tell you what, I'll give you a full formal apology if in fact the US does sign a peace treaty with Iran "soon" and removes the navy from the Strait. All you need to do is tell me how long a period of time is meant by "soon" so I know how many days you anticipate this will take.
 
OK, tell you what, I'll give you a full formal apology if in fact the US does sign a peace treaty with Iran "soon" and removes the navy from the Strait. All you need to do is tell me how long a period of time is meant by "soon" so I know how many days you anticipate this will take.
Did you read the overall assessment of all the damage Iran has incurred since Oct of 23? Their leaders are hiding and it sounds like they are on their knees at this point and you are assuming they want more? With Trump they will get it

 
Did you read the overall assessment of all the damage Iran has incurred since Oct of 23? Their leaders are hiding and it sounds like they are on their knees at this point and you are assuming they want more? With Trump they will get it

I'm well aware of all the damage. The question is about a peace treaty being signed "soon". Just tell me what time period would be considered "soon".
 
I'm well aware of all the damage. The question is about a peace treaty being signed "soon". Just tell me what time period would be considered "soon".
Big question is whether or not Vahidi is actually dead, it still has not been confirmed or denied yet. The reason this is pertinent is in a nutshell, Vahidi represents the faction that wants to keep fighting. In theory if he indeed perished in the strikes a few days ago then Pezeshkian and Araghchi become more pliable to negotiate their surrender without you know getting lynched by their own cult.
 
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I'm well aware of all the damage.
I do not think you are.
The question is about a peace treaty being signed "soon". Just tell me what time period would be considered "soon".
You did not get it the first time, so why would you get it the second? I do not care about a peace treaty with a bunch of crazy fascists. Only care about the USA being out of the Iran-created mess. How am i supposed to tell you when the USA will exit? The sooner the better. You tell me why Iran wants more damage if they stall? More dead leaders, More hiding while killer drones hunt them down and kill them. Iran leadership is totally destabilized. If Iran sinks a USA ship, it will unite Americans against Iran.
 
4000 missiles shot at Israel? Is that valid? GROK

Yes, the claim is broadly valid, though the exact figure of "4,000" is an approximation commonly used for the initial barrage or early phase of the October 7, 2023, attacks (and comparisons to prior conflicts). Official and reported numbers are in that range or higher, depending on the timeframe.

timesofisrael.com

Key Facts on Rocket/Missile FireOn October 7 itself: Hamas and allied groups launched a massive initial barrage. Reports vary slightly:Israeli sources (IDF): Around 2,200–3,000 rockets in the first hours (often cited as ~3,000 in the opening phase).

timesofisrael.com

Hamas claimed ~5,000 in a 20-minute barrage. [Hamas ..Palestinian Islamist militant and political group that governs the Gaza Strip,]

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I do not think you are.
You did not get it the first time, so why would you get it the second? I do not care about a peace treaty with a bunch of crazy fascists. Only care about the USA being out of the Iran-created mess. How am i supposed to tell you when the USA will exit? The sooner the better. You tell me why Iran wants more damage if they stall? More dead leaders, More hiding while killer drones hunt them down and kill them. Iran leadership is totally destabilized. If Iran sinks a USA ship, it will unite Americans against Iran.
We are on the verge of millions of people in Iran being without water, a human catastrophe that will be apocalyptic. It was not caused by the war, but the war has certainly exacerbated it. We have also seen significant damage to Iran's oil infrastructure, electric generation, and complete destruction of their air defense and "navy". They do have drones and missiles. But the quantity has been reduced by an estimated 11%. There has also been significant damage to underground facilities which house missiles or a nuclear research program. We have also seen a very large number of leaders of the IRGC regime killed or injured. Not only the leaders themselves but the proposed motive in bombing a girls school was that many of those children were from IRGC families. Because of the blockade Iran is struggling greatly financially. We can safely assume that the people who will suffer the most from lack of water, oil, electricity and money will be the ones least involved in the conflict.

On the other hand Iran is well able to still sink an oil tanker, they can even shoot down an Apache helicopter, a much more difficult feat. They have also inflicted serious damage to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and UAE oil infrastructure. Also, invading Iran would be a far bigger undertaking than the Vietnam war. So a boots on the ground operation, other than a surgical extraction of a high value target, is out of the question. Without boots on the ground you can't remove the IRGC from power, and all your stranglehold on the country is going to do is cause a human catastrophe on an apocalyptic scale while Russia and China can still keep the IRGC functioning.

Meanwhile the impact on the global economy was said to be a potentially manageable recession if the blockade ended before June. That didn't happen. We are now into the "Great Depression" projections for the economy with an accompanying famine. How close are we to resolving this?

Well,

1. Trump is not actually talking to the leaders of the IRGC.
2. Every claim Trump makes is refuted by the IRGC leaders.
3. He says a "memorandum of understanding" could be signed soon. That is not a peace treaty, that is the prerequisite to having peace talks.
4. The problem is that he is simply talking about reopening the Strait, he is not talking about the Uranium and that is a red line for the Israelis. Will Israel sit by and allow the strait to be reopened without eliminating the threat of nuclear annihilation?

What does the Bible say. The world cheers "peace and security" but it is simply a bandaid because then we have sudden destruction. That sounds like the Strait is "opened" which is all the world cares about, Israel torpedos that, causing the war to erupt hotter than ever and for the entire world to unite against Israel.

And no, I did not get it the first time, second time, third time, fourth time, fifth time, or umpteenth time that Trump told us an agreement would be signed soon, because every time he said that he did not address the issues Iran had and they were saying there was no deal.
 
Starmergeddon accelerates. This is going to perhaps neccessitate a General Election not just merely a change of PM now.


 
Consider WW2, simplistic view is that the US and the allies were fighting the Axis powers, good vs evil. But, dig a little deeper and you discover the Henry Ford and George Bush's grandfather were both supporting Hitler as well as a British Monarch, and the Catholic church. It turns out they all felt threatened by communism and so supported Hitler to build up a protective army between them and Russia. So we discover that the aristocrats and oligarchs were working together for their personal goal independent of the nations they lived in or the goals of those nations. That is the only way to understand what is going on today. Think of what the goals are of the super rich and super powerful. Ignore what they say and ignore what the goals are of the 99%, simply focus on the 1%.

Second, you need to realize that the rich can make money regardless of what the stock market does, or the price of oil, or whatever. The only thing they require is to know in advance. The real generational wealth is made during a great depression, if you are properly positioned before the collapse you can increase your networth 10x during a financial collapse.

Third, you have to understand that the elites, not the 1% but the 0.01% are in communication with fallen angels. Think of them like Judas, cutting a deal to sell out humanity for a fee. These are people who have literally made a deal with the devil. It may not seem logical, but it isn't logic that keeps them doing what they are doing, it is fear.

If you understand those three things then it is much easier to understand what is going on.
 
What is very interesting is how dominant the US has been in this war with Iran. We have our navy parked on their coast, we have obliterated their navy and air defenses. If this were WW2 we would be fully ready for D day. But that is the problem, D day involves many deaths, many caskets flying home, and that is the one thing the US is not ready for. Boots on the ground mean IEDs, it means Fallujah, it means another "Black Hawk Down".

Now Iran is calling the US bluff.

Trump is going to be humiliated unless he can convince the US to go full scale Dwight Eisenhower on Iran and that means he needs a false flag bigger and more horrific than 911. When I say "Trump" I simply mean the face of the Zionists. Also, when I say "Zionists" I am not referring to men of faith, I am talking about politicians who realize the US needs to control the middle east in order to be the preeminent superpower. Just because Absalom sleeps with David's concubines doesn't make him David. Likewise, Trump can consort with Christian leaders at the Whitehouse, doesn't make him a Christian. God chose Israel as the place to set His name there, that doesn't mean that everyone else who is fighting over that land is of God.
 

MOU SIGNED! Oil CRISIS Continues, Will Iran Ceasefire Last? w/@Peak Prosperity​


This is a very valuable interview if you truly want to understand the situation and have a reasonably good prediction of what will happen over the next year.

First, they explain that getting the oil tankers that are stuck in the Strait out is one thing, the question is will shippers continue to send their ships in? They provide many reasonable explanations why at the very least they will wait a month before returning. By that point you can forget about this years harvest. People do not understand that there has been so much damage done to the oil fields and infrastructure that you are not simply going to turn everything back on. Best case scenario, if we truly had peace and Israel didn't reignite the war, it will take six months to get the world back on enough oil flowing.

In fact they did such a good job of explaining how and why global famine and economic depression is already a done deal that I think the purpose of this whole MOU is to clear the strait out of these oil tankers to that Trump can go ahead and blow Iran to bits. This is simply SWAT telling everyone to clear out of the area before the bullets start flying.

One thing that the mainstream media has not been reporting on is that Iran has had some major hits on the US military. They nailed a crucial radar station and a crucial air strip. Without our radar stations we need our AWACs and it seems they were able to take out both. Not only so but they have been shooting down Reaper drones. In fact the situation sounds like Ukraine. Everyone assumed that Russia would walk through Ukraine, but that is not what happened. They were reluctant for boots on the ground just as the US was also reluctant. The US and NATO have supplied Ukraine and it seems that China has supplied Iran.

Which brings us to a really big question about prophecy. According to the book of Revelation the whole world comes to fight against Israel at Armageddon. Why? Right now that is hard to imagine. But suppose Israel refuses to let there be a peaceful flow of oil out of the Strait, that in turn causes global famine and a great depression. Those two things destabilize governments and the way they deal with it is to go to war, removing all the men who would otherwise become protestors in the streets. I think the fact that the whole world goes to war against Israel at Armageddon tells us how this current war is going to turn out. They can claim "peace and security" all they wish, but it looks like we will have "sudden destruction" and "they shall not escape".
 
The price of gasoline is not reflecting the true situation with Oil.

1. Russia had to import gasoline this week. That is like Iowa having to buy corn.

2. India is rationing oil. Yes, the price of oil is very cheap right now, but you can't buy any so what is the point? This is like a Gas Station selling gasoline for $2 a gallon, that is their posted price, but they don't have any gasoline to sell so the posted price is irrelevant.

3. Singapore has already run out of oil and they import 100% of their oil. They have a very big refinery, so this will impact more than just Singapore.

4. We are expected to drop below the cushing level of oil in the next two weeks here in the US. They explain what that is in the video in post 1,457, but just know it is the level that allows our oil industry to operate at full capacity.
 
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The next big day of Starmergeddon is here as the special by-election in Manchester is underway to determine the fate of the entire British Empire! Andy Burnham of Labour is favored to win but only narrowly against the insurgent new major party UKIP whom had been on the momentum from May's elections at the beginning of the end of Starmer and the Starmergeddon subplot (appropriately a mediocre C tier subplot just like Keir). While it may end up in even bigger surprises if UKIP wins technically the fastest way to remove the weak and failed PM Starmer is to hope that Burnham narrowly wins. However, if Andy Burnham wins he has pledged to mount a leadership challenge to Keir Starmer to complete Starmergeddon with a softer palace coup and avoid a General Election the likes of which Labour Party might never recover from. The soft power suspense is on, may Starmer fall either way, the end of his misrule is in sight, praise Jesus.



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BREAKING: Israel REJECT Iran Deal - IRGC Hezbollah Launch Missiles At Israel - IDF Stay In Lebanon​

 
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