This is a basis to Salvation given by Our Lord Jesus. How do we follow it?

[Godsgood]

This is saying help the poor and needy, have concern for those sick and in prison.

Which it means love people which without there is no salvation.

1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

1Jn 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth.

1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

There are many people who say faith alone but you look at their lifestyle that they love money, and material things, worldliness, and not acting Christlike.

Which is not love.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Yes help the Poor and Needy is a Commandment of God.

In man's understanding, the poor & needy are the less fortunate people who are striving for their living. It is easy to identify them.

But Our Lord Jesus is Speaking in Parables. He must reveal or expound to us first who are the poor & needy in the eyes of God before we can identify them. This will happen if we beg and ask mercy to Our Lord.
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

As God the Father said we understand is not what God understand.
ISAIAH 55:8
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Likewise I don't have the intention to argue. It just happened that I'm sharing what I read in the word of God.
The Truth in the word of God doesn't give good feeling but it hurts.
HEBREWS 4:12
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

yeah what I’m unclear about is which part of what I quoted wasn’t gods word ? Or which part of what I had said did you have the issue with ?

gods word doesn’t just pound people into remission it also expresses his great love and care for them as individuals and as a whole . It also speaks loudly of his mercy towards them his patience and longsuffering towards them ect there’s a lot in his word that is reassuring , comforting , that builds us up …..as well as a lot to correct and warn us

if someone is talking about gods mercy or forgivness it doesn’t mean they disagree with the things he says about repentance and obedience it’s all his word the stuff that comforts and assures and the stuff that warns and corrects

 

[Godsgood]

yeah what I’m unclear about is which part of what I quoted wasn’t gods word ? Or which part of what I had said did you have the issue with ?

gods word doesn’t just pound people into remission it also expresses his great love and care for them as individuals and as a whole . It also speaks loudly of his mercy towards them his patience and longsuffering towards them ect there’s a lot in his word that is reassuring , comforting , that builds us up …..as well as a lot to correct and warn us

if someone is talking about gods mercy or forgivness it doesn’t mean they disagree with the things he says about repentance and obedience it’s all his word the stuff that comforts and assures and the stuff that warns and corrects

Again I would like to emphasize.
I'm not here to argue to anyone.

I just found out that the Holy Bible is not just the same as the academic books.
It is a Love letter from God to the People.
When I read it as if God is Speaking in front of me and I listen to him.

With regards to your quote.

Even though we aren’t perfect and all have done something’s wrong and we do have to answer come the day of judgement the gospel doctrine can save us come that day if we believe in and follow Jesus doctrine then we’ll be forgiven and not condemned for the things we’ve done wrong before . This isn’t an excuse to keep living wrong but for those pressing forward to live right giving them grace to get there

God said, if we really believe to Jesus and to his doctrines we will become perfect.
MATTHEW 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Because Jesus is perfect and we could be like him perfect.
JOHN 17:11
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

In our own way, it is impossible to become perfect. But if we beg to God and ask for his Mercy, in God's way then it is Possible.
LUKE 18:27
27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

By himbling oneselves

You can’t unless Jesus lives through you in the power of the Holy Spirit.

Yes, it is true that when Jesus lives through you in the power of the Holy Spirit.

The question is, How that this happen. Is it by Man's explanation or by God's revelation?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Again I would like to emphasize.
I'm not here to argue to anyone.

I just found out that the Holy Bible is not just the same as the academic books.
It is a Love letter from God to the People.
When I read it as if God is Speaking in front of me and I listen to him.

With regards to your quote.

Even though we aren’t perfect and all have done something’s wrong and we do have to answer come the day of judgement the gospel doctrine can save us come that day if we believe in and follow Jesus doctrine then we’ll be forgiven and not condemned for the things we’ve done wrong before . This isn’t an excuse to keep living wrong but for those pressing forward to live right giving them grace to get there

God said, if we really believe to Jesus and to his doctrines we will become perfect.
MATTHEW 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Because Jesus is perfect and we could be like him perfect.
JOHN 17:11
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

In our own way, it is impossible to become perfect. But if we beg to God and ask for his Mercy, in God's way then it is Possible.
LUKE 18:27
27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

By himbling oneselves


Yes, it is true that when Jesus lives through you in the power of the Holy Spirit.

The question is, How that this happen. Is it by Man's explanation or by God's revelation?

which part of my original post were you talking about was the question ?



“and brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭16:

 

[Godsgood]

which part of my original post were you talking about was the question ?



“and brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭16:

You can’t unless Jesus lives through you in the power of the Holy Spirit.

This is True but every denomination in Christianity today is proclaiming this.
We can't say all of them are True (although they claim they are) because they have different doctrines and way of salvation.

How Jesus lives to us in the power of the Holy Spirit, is it by means of man's explanation or by means of God's revelation?

 

[Dino246]

How Jesus lives to us in the power of the Holy Spirit, is it by means of man's explanation or by means of God's revelation?

Neither. False dichotomy.

 

[Burn1986]

Again I would like to emphasize.
I'm not here to argue to anyone.

I just found out that the Holy Bible is not just the same as the academic books.
It is a Love letter from God to the People.
When I read it as if God is Speaking in front of me and I listen to him.

With regards to your quote.

Even though we aren’t perfect and all have done something’s wrong and we do have to answer come the day of judgement the gospel doctrine can save us come that day if we believe in and follow Jesus doctrine then we’ll be forgiven and not condemned for the things we’ve done wrong before . This isn’t an excuse to keep living wrong but for those pressing forward to live right giving them grace to get there

God said, if we really believe to Jesus and to his doctrines we will become perfect.
MATTHEW 5:48
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Because Jesus is perfect and we could be like him perfect.
JOHN 17:11
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

In our own way, it is impossible to become perfect. But if we beg to God and ask for his Mercy, in God's way then it is Possible.
LUKE 18:27
27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

By himbling oneselves


Yes, it is true that when Jesus lives through you in the power of the Holy Spirit.

The question is, How that this happen. Is it by Man's explanation or by God's revelation?

“The question is, How that this happen. Is it by Man's explanation or by God's revelation?”
I dk, you’re getting a little too far into the weeds. Roman’s 10:9-10, Roman road?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

You can’t unless Jesus lives through you in the power of the Holy Spirit.

This is True but every denomination in Christianity today is proclaiming this.
We can't say all of them are True (although they claim they are) because they have different doctrines and way of salvation.

How Jesus lives to us in the power of the Holy Spirit, is it by means of man's explanation or by means of God's revelation?

Alright

 

[Godsgood]

Neither. False dichotomy.

Yes we only have 2 choices.

1. Coming from Man by using own intellect to understand the meaning of the word of God. Same as the Jews when Our Lord Jesus said (John 2:19-21) "Destroy this Temple and in Three Days I will Raise it up". Man's understanding is the literal Temple. "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days"?

2. God's Revelation. "But he spake of the temple of his body".

 

[Dino246]

Yes we only have 2 choices.

1. Coming from Man by using own intellect to understand the meaning of the word of God. Same as the Jews when Our Lord Jesus said (John 2:19-21) "Destroy this Temple and in Three Days I will Raise it up". Man's understanding is the literal Temple. "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days"?

2. God's Revelation. "But he spake of the temple of his body".

You changed the subject.

 

[Dino246]

Yes we only have 2 choices.

1. Coming from Man by using own intellect to understand the meaning of the word of God. Same as the Jews when Our Lord Jesus said (John 2:19-21) "Destroy this Temple and in Three Days I will Raise it up". Man's understanding is the literal Temple. "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days"?

2. God's Revelation. "But he spake of the temple of his body".

Given that it was the Pharisees who thought Jesus meant the building, it’s not “man’s understanding” but rather “the Pharisees’ understanding”. Further, the plain text tells us that Jesus meant His body; we don’t need a new revelation from God to understand that.

 

[Godsgood]

Given that it was the Pharisees who thought Jesus meant the building, it’s not “man’s understanding” but rather “the Pharisees’ understanding”. Further, the plain text tells us that Jesus meant His body; we don’t need a new revelation from God to understand that.

we don’t need a new revelation from God to understand that

If this is your basis then you don't need God anymore as Teacher to reveal the meaning of his words because you are depending on text and you already understand the meaning. And no need for you to beg to God the Father in his Mercy.

The message of Our Lord Jesus about Temple is not to reveal to everybody the meaning of it.
But just to show an example demonstrated by Our Lord Jesus to explain what he meant by Parables (Mark 4:34).
That the understanding of Man in God's words is far far away than what God's revelation in his words.

 

[Dino246]

we don’t need a new revelation from God to understand that

If this is your basis then you don't need God anymore as Teacher to reveal the meaning of his words because you are depending on text and you already understand the meaning. And no need for you to beg to God the Father in his Mercy.

The message of Our Lord Jesus about Temple is not to reveal to everybody the meaning of it.
But just to show an example demonstrated by Our Lord Jesus to explain what he meant by Parables (Mark 4:34).
That the understanding of Man in God's words is far far away than what God's revelation in his words.

More fallacious tripe.

 

[drequeen]

Likewise I don't have the intention to argue. It just happened that I'm sharing what I read in the word of God.
The Truth in the word of God doesn't give good feeling but it hurts.
HEBREWS 4:12
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

"The truth in the Word of God doesn't give good feeling but it hurts".

Now you're getting somewhere.

Likewise I don't have the intention to argue. It just happened that I'm sharing what I read in the word of God.
The Truth in the word of God doesn't give good feeling but it hurts.
HEBREWS 4:12
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

"The Truth in the word of God doesn't give good feeling but it hurts".

Most honest statement I've seen in a long time. It does hurt. There are "hard sayings" in God's word. Ultimately, to bring us to confession and repentance. Keep reading the parts that "hurt" and pray the Holy Spirit to help you, with an open heart and mind.

 

[Godsgood]

More fallacious tripe.

With my sharing, you may believe it or not. You may take it or leave it.
The important is I shared it (Matthew 25:14-30).

 

[homwardbound]

We are in this Chat because we all want to get saved.
Our Lord Jesus gave this law to fulfill so he can save us.

Is, it a Law to do or you not in? Me or anyone else? I see a willing to do, and do willingly, not under Law, keeping in step with the free choice given me at least. If I, you or anyone else has to do to get given, there Christ came here in Vain to save us in his risen life for us, I think
Love from God Father through Son to us all, I see willingly, otherwise it is Law, where others do better than other sand many fight as in Luke 18:9-14, which is still happening g under Law verses upholding law, willingly.
Thanks, I thank God for this love and mercy given us through Son, given to us all

What be your opinion are we under Law or under grace?

 

[Dino246]

With my sharing, you may believe it or not. You may take it or leave it.
The important is I shared it (Matthew 25:14-30).

If you share wrong interpretations (which most of yours are), it is worse than not sharing them.

 

[Godsgood]

If you share wrong interpretations (which most of yours are), it is worse than not sharing them.

When it comes to Spiritual things.
God has the Standard for Right or Wrong.
No one on earth knows which is right or wrong.

That is why Our Lord Jesus gave this warning.
MATTHEW 7:1-2
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

 

[Godsgood]

"The truth in the Word of God doesn't give good feeling but it hurts".

Now you're getting somewhere.

"The Truth in the word of God doesn't give good feeling but it hurts".

Most honest statement I've seen in a long time. It does hurt. There are "hard sayings" in God's word. Ultimately, to bring us to confession and repentance. Keep reading the parts that "hurt" and pray the Holy Spirit to help you, with an open heart and mind.

Our Lord Jesus never commit mistakes in his Prophecy in Hebrews 4:12

 

[Dino246]

When it comes to Spiritual things.
God has the Standard for Right or Wrong.
No one on earth knows which is right or wrong.

That is why Our Lord Jesus gave this warning.
MATTHEW 7:1-2
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

If “No one on earth knows which is right or wrong “, then neither do you, and you have no business correcting me.