Three Days and Three Nights

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john832,

re: "There is no scripture that say He arose on Sunday morning."


No, but Mark 16:9 in the KJV says that it was the first of the week.
 
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If I go by your logic and date of the Passover I get the following....

Matthew 26 Jesus and disciples eat the Passover, he instructs them and they go to the mount of Olives...

Tuesday 24th, 31 A.D. Jesus and Disciples eat Passover and go to Mount of Olives
Jesus Gets taken later in the early morning hours of Wednesday Night/Thurs Morning
Held/beaten/tried/crucified/gives up Ghost and is taken down and prepared by Joseph Laid in tomb on Wednesday Evening

Wednesday evening-->Thursday Evening
Thursday Evening --> Friday Evening
Friday Evening -->Saturday Evening
First day of week as it begins to dawn the women see the angels and Jesus not there.

Unlike a lot of people I will bend to truth and I can see your point......my original point still stands as (good Friday) means exactly what in the grand scheme of a Wednesday evening burial to a Saturday Evening Resurrection?
Didn't you mean the 14th rather than the 24th day? Other than that, you're right on. I agree with AD 31

Exodus 12:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
 
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Didn't you mean the 14th rather than the 24th day? Other than that, you're right on. I agree with AD 31

Exodus 12:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
Yeah I was going by John's post in like post 15 or 16 and his 25th date of the Passover.....which means they had to eat the Passover the day before which would be the 24th according to him and the 14th by the scripture that you posted....wonder why he stated the 25th as the date of the Passover....

Hey John...why the 25th date with the above posted scripture about killing the Passover lamb on the 14th?
 
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Day thirteen is two days before Passover, (God passed over on the fifteenth Exodus 12) and according to Matthew 26:2 Jesus said “Ye know that after two days is the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.” Scriptures in Mark 14:1, and Luke 22:1 confirm this, as it is written; “After two days was the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put to death. Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.” (Added italicized words taken out) We see in Matthew 26:10-35 that the authorities finally devise a plan to arrest and kill Jesus. A woman with an alabaster box anoints Jesus for burial with very expensive ointment. This is the day that preempts the killing of the Passover lamb, and the last supper is being prepared.

Day fourteen begins when the sun goes down on the thirteenth. Matthew 26:17 says “Now the first (preparation day) of the **unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?” (Again, I took the liberty of taking out the added italicized words for better understanding.) Eating the “passover” is eating the lamb that was prepared on this day just as it is stated in Exodus 12:6. The preparation for Passover begins on the fourteenth day, as was tradition of that day. Jesus prays in Gethsemane, and is finally betrayed by Judas Iscariot, and arrested after He and His disciples cross the Cedron/Kidron into the garden. Jesus is tried and found guilty by the Sanhedrin, gives audience to Herod, and is finally sent to Pilate. John 19:14 could be misunderstood as the sixth hour being around noon. The sixth hour isn’t referring to the time of day, but six hours after the betrayal of Judas Iscariot, and Jesus’ arrest. It reads “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!” So we see that killing and eating the Passover is not the first day of the Feast of **Unleavened Bread, but the preparation thereof. Jesus is beaten, and hung on the cross at nine o’clock in the morning, and dies at three o’clock in the afternoon. Mark 15:25 and Mark 15:33-34 are descriptive; “And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Behold, Your lamb is without blemish, kept until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation shall kill it in the evening.
 

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I believe His blood was shed and applied to the altar (the cross) on Passover to fulfill the type. I don't know if that was Thursday or Friday, but I'd take it from there with a before dawn resurrection on Sunday.
 
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If I go by your logic and date of the Passover I get the following....

Matthew 26 Jesus and disciples eat the Passover, he instructs them and they go to the mount of Olives...
How did Jesus eat the Passover meal if he was the Passover? He did indeed instruct the disciples on where to PREPARE the Passover but he did not get to eat the Passover - they did as he directed them then when evening came - that evening that sat to eat the last supper.
John 13:1,2 It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. The evening meal was in progress . . . Luke 22:14 I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. This sentence contains a figure of speech called polyptoton and its when the same root word is used but with different inflection or form - Jesus was emphasizing the great desire he had to eat THIS Passover with his disciples "I have desired" aorist tense indicating a one time action in the past so literally he said - "At one time I did desire" because he knew that the hour had come for him to suffer.
Tuesday 24th, 31 A.D. Jesus and Disciples eat Passover and go to Mount of Olives
Jesus Gets taken later in the early morning hours of Wednesday Night/Thurs Morning
Held/beaten/tried/crucified/gives up Ghost and is taken down and prepared by Joseph Laid in tomb on Wednesday Evening

Wednesday evening-->Thursday Evening
Thursday Evening --> Friday Evening
Friday Evening -->Saturday Evening
First day of week as it begins to dawn the women see the angels and Jesus not there.

Unlike a lot of people I will bend to truth and I can see your point......my original point still stands as (good Friday) means exactly what in the grand scheme of a Wednesday evening burial to a Saturday Evening Resurrection?
I was just wonder is Good Friday even scriptural? We all can figure that from Good Friday to Sunday morning is NOT three days and three nights. So exactly what is Good Friday? Seriously . . . .

 
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If I go by your logic and date of the Passover I get the following....

Matthew 26 Jesus and disciples eat the Passover, he instructs them and they go to the mount of Olives...
How did Jesus eat the Passover meal if he was the Passover?
If I may see Post #24.

The preparation of the lamb was on the 14th, and that was the day they were to eat it, and leave nothing until morning. Jesus followed the Passover with precision. The time of the day means little, but the day itself means everything.
According to what I see in Exodus 12, is that a family could start to eat the Passover on the 14th, and finish it before dawn on the 15th. Scripture seems to say that, but if there is scripture saying that shouldn't be done maybe someone can post that.

I don't think "Good Friday" is scriptural.
 
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How did Jesus eat the Passover meal if he was the Passover? He did indeed instruct the disciples on where to PREPARE the Passover but he did not get to eat the Passover - they did as he directed them then when evening came - that evening that sat to eat the last supper.
John 13:1,2 It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. The evening meal was in progress . . . Luke 22:14 I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. This sentence contains a figure of speech called polyptoton and its when the same root word is used but with different inflection or form - Jesus was emphasizing the great desire he had to eat THIS Passover with his disciples "I have desired" aorist tense indicating a one time action in the past so literally he said - "At one time I did desire" because he knew that the hour had come for him to suffer.

I was just wonder is Good Friday even scriptural? We all can figure that from Good Friday to Sunday morning is NOT three days and three nights. So exactly what is Good Friday? Seriously . . . .

Well I don't know and if you read all my posts on this thread you will see that I do not do the (good Friday thing) :)
 
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How did Jesus eat the Passover meal if he was the Passover? He did indeed instruct the disciples on where to PREPARE the Passover but he did not get to eat the Passover - they did as he directed them then when evening came - that evening that sat to eat the last supper.
John 13:1,2 It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. The evening meal was in progress . . . Luke 22:14 I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. This sentence contains a figure of speech called polyptoton and its when the same root word is used but with different inflection or form - Jesus was emphasizing the great desire he had to eat THIS Passover with his disciples "I have desired" aorist tense indicating a one time action in the past so literally he said - "At one time I did desire" because he knew that the hour had come for him to suffer.

Sorry, post 27 was for you. Copy and paste time and duplication of that post.

See Post #24.

The preparation of the lamb was on the 14th, and that was the day they were to eat it, and leave nothing until morning. Jesus followed the Passover with precision. The time of the day means little, but the day itself means everything.
According to what I see in Exodus 12, a family could start to eat the Passover on the 14th, and finish it before dawn on the 15th. Scripture seems to say that, but if there is scripture saying that shouldn't be done maybe someone can post that. So Jesus and His disciples did eat the Passover at the proper time which began on the 14th day when the lamb was slaughtered. Some would think that they prepared the lamb on the 14th, and ate it on the 15th as a strict regulation. That would not be right. Passover is not a day but is classified as the lamb. The reason a day is attributed to it, is because that is the first day of unleavened bread, beginning at night time of the 15th day when God passed over to check out the blood of the Passover on the doorposts. The Passover festival is the 15th.
 
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Sorry, post 27 was for you. Copy and paste time and duplication of that post.

See Post #24.

The preparation of the lamb was on the 14th, and that was the day they were to eat it, and leave nothing until morning. Jesus followed the Passover with precision. The time of the day means little, but the day itself means everything.
The time means quite a bit - considering the firstborn of all were to be killed at midnight. Yep, preparation was on the 14th, the passover had to be slaughtered, cooked, eaten, no bones broken (just as no bones were broken on Jesus) before the destroyer came to kill the firstborn. Jesus was the Passover Lamb, everything had to be done before the 15th, trial, beatings, crucifixion, and burial before the 15th. The 13th of Nisan began Jesus' trial and torture (sunset on the 13th began the 14th Nisan). . . he was crucified the third hour . . .there was darkness form the sixth hour to the ninth hour and Jesus died about the ninth hour, 3 pm the hour the Passover Lamb was to be slain, the 14th.
According to what I see in Exodus 12, a family could start to eat the Passover on the 14th, and finish it before dawn on the 15th. Scripture seems to say that, but if there is scripture saying that shouldn't be done maybe someone can post that. So Jesus and His disciples did eat the Passover at the proper time which began on the 14th day when the lamb was slaughtered. Some would think that they prepared the lamb on the 14th, and ate it on the 15th as a strict regulation. That would not be right. Passover is not a day but is classified as the lamb. The reason a day is attributed to it, is because that is the first day of unleavened bread, beginning at night time of the 15th day when God passed over to check out the blood of the Passover on the doorposts. The Passover festival is the 15th.
If Exodus 12 is a prophetic foreshadowing of Christ being our Passover, which I believe it is, the time of Jesus death, the Lamb of God, would correspond with the time the lamb was slaughtered. Mark 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath. Matt. 27:57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple. The word "even" means that sunset was near. The body of Jesus had to be removed before the 15th, the Passover Feast and the beginning of Feast of Unleavened bread. It was a Sabbath sure but it was a High Sabbath (John 19:31) - not just a weekly Sabbath but a High Holy Day. :)
. . . . In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb. . . .And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: it shall be killed in the evening - sprinkle the doorposts, eat the flesh, let nothing remain until the morning . . . The LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts the LORD will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you. . . . . And it came to pass, that at midnight . . . . . In the evening before midnight. :)
 
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The time means quite a bit - considering the firstborn of all were to be killed at midnight. Yep, preparation was on the 14th, the passover had to be slaughtered, cooked, eaten, no bones broken (just as no bones were broken on Jesus) before the destroyer came to kill the firstborn. Jesus was the Passover Lamb, everything had to be done before the 15th, trial, beatings, crucifixion, and burial before the 15th. The 13th of Nisan began Jesus' trial and torture (sunset on the 13th began the 14th Nisan). . . he was crucified the third hour . . .there was darkness form the sixth hour to the ninth hour and Jesus died about the ninth hour, 3 pm the hour the Passover Lamb was to be slain, the 14th.
Wasn't Jesus crucified in the same day as he was arrested, and the last supper was eaten?
Exodus 12:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

I think that Jesus ate the last supper after twilight, went to pray, was arrested, tried, and killed in that order all on the same day, and died in the evening of the 14th
 
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peacefulbeliever,

re: "And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: it shall be killed in the evening..."


What part of the calendar day do you think is meant by "evening"? The first half or the last half, or maybe some other period?
Genesis 1:5 seems to suggest that it was the first part of the calendar day: "So the evening and the morning were the first day".
 
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I think there comes in a little confusion with the 14th day, and the last supper. In Exodus, obviously they had to kill the lamb before they could eat it. With Jesus, they had to eat it before Jesus, the Lamb of God was killed. To be as clear as I can, no matter whether in Exodus, Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John, it all happened on the 14th. The day begins a twilight, and that's when Jesus sat down to eat the Passover with His disciples.

Now to throw out something that might be worth some thought. In Exodus, during the first month, Sabbaths were not observed. Sabbath days were first given by God's instructions starting in the 2nd month, when manna was given.

Exodus 16:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.

Exodus 16:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.

Exodus 16:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And in the morning, then ye shall see the glory of the LORD; for that he heareth your murmurings against the LORD: and what are we, that ye murmur against us? (this would be the 16th the first day of the week)

Exodus 16:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. (this would be the 21st day)

So the 22nd of the 2nd month is the first Sabbath day in Biblical history, related to food from heaven, and is parallel to the day after the final day of the feast of unleavened bread, that began on the 15th, and ended on the 21st.
 

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If I go by your logic and date of the Passover I get the following....

Matthew 26 Jesus and disciples eat the Passover, he instructs them and they go to the mount of Olives...

Tuesday 24th, 31 A.D. Jesus and Disciples eat Passover and go to Mount of Olives
Jesus Gets taken later in the early morning hours of Wednesday Night/Thurs Morning
Held/beaten/tried/crucified/gives up Ghost and is taken down and prepared by Joseph Laid in tomb on Wednesday Evening
Let's look at this my friend,

He ate the Passover and instituted the N.T. symbols, the bread and wine on Tuesday evening during the beginning hours of the Passover. Later that night He went to the Mt. of Olives and was taken...

Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.

Same night, Tuesday nighttime by our clocks He went to the Mt. of Olives...

Mat 26:45 Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
Mat 26:46 Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.
Mat 26:47 And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.

Same night, Tuesday night/Wednesday morning (before daylight).

Mat 26:55 In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.
Mat 26:56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mat 26:57 And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled.

Mat 27:1 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:
Mat 27:2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.

Wednesday morning, 25th April 31AD, the daylight portion of the Passover.

Mat 27:24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Mat 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
Mat 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.
Mat 27:27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
Mat 27:28 And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
Mat 27:29 And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
Mat 27:30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
Mat 27:31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.

Still Wednesday morning, He is led away to be crucified...

Mar 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Third hour is 9:00AM

Mar 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.

Noon.

Luk 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
Luk 23:45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.
Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Christ died at about 3:00pm. The same hour the Jews were killing the Lambs.

Luk 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

And here is where many make the mistake of assuming this is the weekly Sabbath. It is not...

Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The High Day here is the First Day of Unleavened Bread...

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

So He was buried just before sunset on Wednesday. Just before the annual Sabbath, the High Day, known as the First Day of Unleavened Bread. The Passover itself is not a Sabbath. It is even called the preparation day for the High Day (John 19:31).

Wednesday <---- Buried just before sunset
Thursday <---- First day of Unleavened Bread
Friday <---- Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath
Saturday <---- Resurrection just before sunset

This is exactly 72 hour just as Christ said it would be (Mat 12:39-40)
 

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john832,

re: "There is no scripture that say He arose on Sunday morning."


No, but Mark 16:9 in the KJV says that it was the first of the week.
The Diaglott is helpful here...

Mar 16:9 Having risen and early first of week he appeared first to Mary the Magdalene, from whom he had cast seven demons.

He arose then early on the first day of the week... This doesn't say He arose on the first day, it says He arose, one event. Then on early on the first day of the week another event occurred.

Weh we read Mark 16:9 properly and in context with all the other scriptures, we see that this is not telling us that He arose on the first day of the week.
 
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Wasn't Jesus crucified in the same day as he was arrested, and the last supper was eaten?
Exodus 12:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
"So Jesus and His disciples did eat the Passover at the proper time which began on the 14th day when the lamb was slaughtered." Jesus told the disciples to make preparations to eat the Passover (Matt. 26:18,19). Next in sequence - when even was come, he sat down with the twelve . And as they were eating - This is the last supper NOT the passover meal. In verse 26 - While they were eating, Jesus took bread - artos is the Gk word for "bread"; the Gk word for "unleavened bread" is azumos - so it couldn't be the passover meal for they were not eating unleavened bread. Just saying. . . .
I think that Jesus ate the last supper after twilight, went to pray, was arrested, tried, and killed in that order all on the same day, and died in the evening of the 14th
After this supper, Judas was sent on his way to do what he had to do, they sang a hymn of praise and left to go to the mount of Olives, their eventual destination being the Garden of Gethsemane just outside Jerusalem. It is so amazing that during all this time, Jesus is still teaching his apostles and disciples - he taught them the parable of the vine, he told them he must suffer, die, and depart but that the holy Spirit would be sent to comfort, exhort, and guide them. John 17 is the great record of Jesus' prayer of the love and concern he had for his disciples and love for his heavenly Father - all this before they even entered the Garden of Gethsemane (John 18:1,2) After his prayer in the garden, he was arrested. A lot of time passed from supper to the garden so it had to have been late at night when he was arrested and we know that he appeared before the Sanhedrin, also Pilate early Tuesday morning and then Herod, then Pilate again; then sentenced and scourged by Pilate; tortured and mocked by soldiers in judgment hall; he was led out for crucifixion, hung on the cross about 9am; he died about 3pm. All this had to transpire before midnight the 14th to line up with Exodus 12 - before the firstborn of the Egyptians were killed.

Jesus love for us never ceases to amaze me!
 

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john832,

re: "So He was buried just before sunset on Wednesday. Just before the annual Sabbath, the High Day, known as the First Day of Unleavened Bread."


Mark 14:12 seems to suggest that "the first day of unleavened bread" was the 14th.

 



re: "Wednesday <---- Buried just before sunset"


How do you reconcile a 4th day crucifixion with Luke 24;21?
 
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"So Jesus and His disciples did eat the Passover at the proper time which began on the 14th day when the lamb was slaughtered." Jesus told the disciples to make preparations to eat the Passover (Matt. 26:18,19). Next in sequence - when even was come, he sat down with the twelve . And as they were eating - This is the last supper NOT the passover meal. In verse 26 - While they were eating, Jesus took bread - artos is the Gk word for "bread"; the Gk word for "unleavened bread" is azumos - so it couldn't be the passover meal for they were not eating unleavened bread. Just saying. . . .
Yes this was the Passover...

Luk 22:13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Luk 22:14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

There is nothing in the Greek that says that the bread was leavened.

After this supper, Judas was sent on his way to do what he had to do, they sang a hymn of praise and left to go to the mount of Olives, their eventual destination being the Garden of Gethsemane just outside Jerusalem. It is so amazing that during all this time, Jesus is still teaching his apostles and disciples - he taught them the parable of the vine, he told them he must suffer, die, and depart but that the holy Spirit would be sent to comfort, exhort, and guide them. John 17 is the great record of Jesus' prayer of the love and concern he had for his disciples and love for his heavenly Father - all this before they even entered the Garden of Gethsemane (John 18:1,2) After his prayer in the garden, he was arrested. A lot of time passed from supper to the garden so it had to have been late at night when he was arrested and we know that he appeared before the Sanhedrin, also Pilate early Tuesday morning and then Herod, then Pilate again; then sentenced and scourged by Pilate; tortured and mocked by soldiers in judgment hall; he was led out for crucifixion, hung on the cross about 9am; he died about 3pm. All this had to transpire before midnight the 14th to line up with Exodus 12 - before the firstborn of the Egyptians were killed.

Jesus love for us never ceases to amaze me!
No, because Christ became the Passover Lamb and He instituted the New Testament Passover symbols of bread and wine in place of the Lamb and bitter herbs. He had the authority to do this and as we have seen in His own words He said that it was the Passover...

Mar 14:12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?
Mar 14:13 And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him.
Mar 14:14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
Mar 14:15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.
Mar 14:16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Mar 14:17 And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.

Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
Luk 22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
Luk 22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
Luk 22:11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
Luk 22:12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
Luk 22:13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Luk 22:14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
 
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I know we have discussed this before, and have concluded that we disagree on this one point that is probably more important to you than me. I won't pursue argument, but I just wanted your thoughts about the weekly Sabbath. (the 17th)

If Jesus was to follow the law with perfection, and He did, would it not be worth consideration that He completed His rest before His resurrection from the dead? With the 15th day begining the evening of the 14th, these next verses are very enlightening.

It appears to me that Jesus was buried after dark. It took time for Joseph to negotiate with Pilate, take Jesus' body from the cross, wrap Him up, carry Him to the tomb, and and roll the stone in front of the entrance. This process started in the evening instead of ending in the evening or at the time of Jesus' death.

Matthew 12:40 (KJV)
[SUP]40 [/SUP]For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Meaning the burial is completed, not the 9th hour when He died)

Matthew 27:57-60 (KJV)

[SUP]57 [/SUP]When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:
[SUP]58 [/SUP]He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered.
[SUP]59 [/SUP]And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
[SUP]60 [/SUP]And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.

Mark 8:31 (KJV)

[SUP]31 [/SUP]And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.