till death do us part...BUT divorce is unacceptable??
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Can't help but wonder why you didn't notice that this person didn't accept you, love you, or care about you premarriage?
Most marriages can get chaotic, but if the love is gone or never existed in the first place, I'd get out before starting a family.
Next time, get to know someone prior to saying "I do"
Most marriages can get chaotic, but if the love is gone or never existed in the first place, I'd get out before starting a family.
Next time, get to know someone prior to saying "I do"
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I hear about bad marriages often, and the book of the old testament prophet Hosea always comes to mind. In one place it says: "Love her as the LORD loves the Israelites, though they turn to other gods." I highly recommend that you read through the entire book, it is not that long. I'm not saying that will solve your problem, but it could inspire in you a kind of mindset that helps to deal with a bad marriage as Hosea had. Stay strong...
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really sorry things have turned out like that for you
I am of the mind that if a person breaks their vows, even apart from adultery, that is a viable reason to separate or divorce
I don't believe God intended for us to have a life of misery being 'stuck' with someone we wish we had never seen let alone married
that being said, marriage is intended for a life commitment and the Bible says God hates divorce.
16 For I hate divorce,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “and him who covers his garment with wrong,” says the Lord of hosts. “So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously.” Malachi 2:16
God is directing this towards the priests...read the whole chapter to understand God's thoughts on divorce since you asked
you know how things have deteriorated in your marriage; we do not.....it is easy to judge but we are not in the position to do so
consider everything before you go ahead if you do. you know what has or has not happened and of course pray about all of it
really sorry things have turned out like that for you
I am of the mind that if a person breaks their vows, even apart from adultery, that is a viable reason to separate or divorce
I don't believe God intended for us to have a life of misery being 'stuck' with someone we wish we had never seen let alone married
that being said, marriage is intended for a life commitment and the Bible says God hates divorce.
16 For I hate divorce,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “and him who covers his garment with wrong,” says the Lord of hosts. “So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously.” Malachi 2:16
God is directing this towards the priests...read the whole chapter to understand God's thoughts on divorce since you asked
you know how things have deteriorated in your marriage; we do not.....it is easy to judge but we are not in the position to do so
consider everything before you go ahead if you do. you know what has or has not happened and of course pray about all of it
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hi Victor
one thing to keep in mind regarding the prophet Hosea, is that God directed him to marry Gomer, a known prostitute...he had to pay for her as you will see from the scripture I included below
this is not God's will for everyone and probably for no one actually.
And the Lord said to me, “Go again, love a woman who is loved by another man and is an adulteress, even as the Lord loves the children of Israel, though they turn to other gods and love cakes of raisins.”2So I bought her for fifteen shekels of silver and a homer and a lethech of barley.3And I said to her, “You must dwell as mine for many days. You shall not play the whore, or belong to another man; so will I also be to you.”4For the children of Israel shall dwell many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or pillar, without ephod or household gods.5Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the Lord their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the Lord and to his goodness in the latter days.
—Hosea 3:1-5
it is understood from the NT, that we should marry another believer and hopefully with God's blessing so that when things occur, and they always will as long as people are involved, they will have hope in the Lord to stay and work through the problems
Hosea did not have a bad marriage in the sense the op is experiencing it; it is not an example for a Christian to follow unless of course he has abit of a martyr complex or is not badly wounded by the entire experience. in other words, it is not a biblical imperative for the rest of us
One of the reasons God hates divorce is because marriage is supposed to represent His relationship to us and last forever.
God used Hosea to show us how important faithfulness is in marriage by making him marry a lustful harlot which was supposed to represent Gods commitment to His own.
Moses gave the jews divorce knowing the hardness of their hearts but Jesus states clearly this is not Gods design for marriage.
That being said divorce itself is not some unforgivable sin, and remarriage is a separate issue entirely.
Hosea was not supposed to abandon his wife regardless of her adultery.
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3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
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4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
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In absolute perfection following Gods design there is no divorce....
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7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
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The pharisee almost make it seem as divorce was ok like moses said to do it here.
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8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
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Jesus finished explaining now that divorce was never a "good" thing which is part of Gods design for marriage in the beginning
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9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
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Then Jesus answers the questions of the pharisee in relation to the law.
"No not for "any" cause is divorce acceptable, and if you have put away your wives for a reason aside from fornication and married another, you commit adultery. Also if you have married one who was put away for this cause you also commit adultry."
Deuteronomy 24
1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the Lord: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
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We gentiles saved by grace through faith are not under the law, but God still hates divorce He does not change.
But if you find yourself in a marriage where you truly are being abused God sees all and knows your heart even better than you do.
As well as the hard heart of an abusive husband/wife.
If you are His and divorce or have been divorced before being His He will not leave you. He is more faithful than even hosea.
Also, in regards to remarriage.
New American Standard Bible
But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I.
King James Bible
I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
New International Version
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
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New American Standard Bible
But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
King James Bible
But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
New International Version
But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
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22. agamos ►
agamos: unmarried
Original Word: ἄγαμος, οῦ, ὁ, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: agamos
Phonetic Spelling: (ag'-am-os)
Definition: unmarried
Usage: unmarried, of a person not in a state of wedlock, whether he or she has formerly been married or not.
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This word was used for purpose.
This applies to all marriage, wether or not it is remarriage.
1 Corinthians 7
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
(sorry for the repost)
God used Hosea to show us how important faithfulness is in marriage by making him marry a lustful harlot which was supposed to represent Gods commitment to His own.
Moses gave the jews divorce knowing the hardness of their hearts but Jesus states clearly this is not Gods design for marriage.
That being said divorce itself is not some unforgivable sin, and remarriage is a separate issue entirely.
Hosea was not supposed to abandon his wife regardless of her adultery.
__________________
3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
__________
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
____________
In absolute perfection following Gods design there is no divorce....
____________
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
________
The pharisee almost make it seem as divorce was ok like moses said to do it here.
________
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
__________
Jesus finished explaining now that divorce was never a "good" thing which is part of Gods design for marriage in the beginning
__________
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
______________
Then Jesus answers the questions of the pharisee in relation to the law.
"No not for "any" cause is divorce acceptable, and if you have put away your wives for a reason aside from fornication and married another, you commit adultery. Also if you have married one who was put away for this cause you also commit adultry."
Deuteronomy 24
1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the Lord: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
______________
We gentiles saved by grace through faith are not under the law, but God still hates divorce He does not change.
But if you find yourself in a marriage where you truly are being abused God sees all and knows your heart even better than you do.
As well as the hard heart of an abusive husband/wife.
If you are His and divorce or have been divorced before being His He will not leave you. He is more faithful than even hosea.
Also, in regards to remarriage.
New American Standard Bible
But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I.
King James Bible
I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
New International Version
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
_____
New American Standard Bible
But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
King James Bible
But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
New International Version
But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
____________
22. agamos ►
Strong's Concordanceagamos: unmarried
Original Word: ἄγαμος, οῦ, ὁ, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: agamos
Phonetic Spelling: (ag'-am-os)
Definition: unmarried
Usage: unmarried, of a person not in a state of wedlock, whether he or she has formerly been married or not.
________
This word was used for purpose.
This applies to all marriage, wether or not it is remarriage.
1 Corinthians 7
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
(sorry for the repost)
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Because you made a vow.
Actually you both made vows. For richer for poorer, for better or for worse...
If you a man of your word I would challenge you to honor your marriage vows and your wife also. Maybe you both slip up now and again, forgive each other and do better.
And pray! The glue holding your marriage together, the third invisible person is Christ. If you both dont have Him, what have you got? It wont work.
Actually you both made vows. For richer for poorer, for better or for worse...
If you a man of your word I would challenge you to honor your marriage vows and your wife also. Maybe you both slip up now and again, forgive each other and do better.
And pray! The glue holding your marriage together, the third invisible person is Christ. If you both dont have Him, what have you got? It wont work.
yeah. right
my post explains I was not quite done with what I was saying
I think you live in FL also?
circulating T storms
how do you like what's brewing in the gulf?
my post explains I was not quite done with what I was saying
I think you live in FL also?
circulating T storms
how do you like what's brewing in the gulf?
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well you are right on the edge there then
we are closer to the gulf than the middle, but far enough inland that we don't worry about crazy tides and such
just tornadoes
but we just had a big ole water oak succumb to so much rain...it missed everything it could have damaged but did take out
a huge branch on a tree in front of it
firewood for our fireplace this winter....that would be the silver lining
we are closer to the gulf than the middle, but far enough inland that we don't worry about crazy tides and such
just tornadoes
but we just had a big ole water oak succumb to so much rain...it missed everything it could have damaged but did take out
a huge branch on a tree in front of it
firewood for our fireplace this winter....that would be the silver lining
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I was just going to add more to that post when my ISP went down...thunderstorms today
I wanted to add that God wanted to illustrate His love for Israel even though she (nation) was unfaithful to Him
appreciate the LOL though
I wanted to add that God wanted to illustrate His love for Israel even though she (nation) was unfaithful to Him
appreciate the LOL though
But I am selfishly grateful God used Hosea to demonstrate that lesson instead of me.😩
I'm kinda sensitive.
As for fighting giants....😎
(still glad he didn't choose me for that one)
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