TRIBULATION LIE

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miknik5

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Now is the time to speak up JimBone

i don't add "LOLs" in my posts!
 

valiant

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while HE is in the world, HE convicts the world of sin
when HE is taken out of the way, evil will run rampant
He (the Holy Spirit) will not be taken out of the way, that is the restraining angel.

what you are suggesting are the labor pains because HE holds things back so that we are never totally destroyed
I'm sure you are right

When HE is no longer holding things back, then will the man of sin be revealed
the restrainer, not the Holy Spirit

by whose spirit who gives his power to the beast sir?
he gives it from where he is restrained

And how did he do so since he has already been bound and the 1000 year reign has already occurred?
no 1000 year reign is described apart from Jesus present reign over the earth.
 

miknik5

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I suggest to you Valiant that your understanding of THE STRONG MAN is incorrect

if HE (THE STRONG MAN) casts out demons (individually) by the FINGER of GOD than THE STRONG MAN has come
 

valiant

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I suggest to you Valiant that your understanding of THE STRONG MAN is incorrect

if HE (THE STRONG MAN) casts out demons (individually) by the FINGER of GOD than THE STRONG MAN has come
you should read the commentaries :)
 

miknik5

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When HIS DISCIPLES went out and told HIm what they did HE told them be joyful that your names are written in heaven

Did that work "casting out demons" by HIS SPIRIT and in THE POWER of HIS NAME end?
 

valiant

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When HIS DISCIPLES went out and told HIm what they did HE told them be joyful that your names are written in heaven

Did that work "casting out demons" by HIS SPIRIT and in THE POWER of HIS NAME end?
no for He continued to bind the strong man
 

miknik5

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I would like to know what Paul was doing in Acts 19:11 through 12
 

valiant

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of men?

maybe Paul should have

well they all agree that the strong man is Satan so they can't all be wrong. You need to learn from them.

What has Paul to do with it? You're hiding behind his skirts.
 

miknik5

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So Paul driving out evil spirits is not relevant?


What about the commentary for Luke 9:49?
 

Jimbone

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Then apparently you haven't read Valiants posts to understand that this is what he said and I was telling you how can we overlook this
Please if you're going to post shouldn't you be following the thread and the back and forth posts before you voice your concerns

because your concerns are one sided. You seem to be looking at me and not folllowing the discussion

i have only responded with scriptures which contradict this posters ideas

I have not challenged his faith if it is fsothnin CHRIST then his faith is sufficient

what I have challenged is his idea that the resurrection has already occurred and tribulation will be a local event and will only effect the jews

i don't agree with him
Hes the one who said this

i would have thought you already knew that if you had followed the conversation you should have
Wow, I'm not quick enough to keep up with you. You can't even tell me why you responded to my first post. Once you engaged me I was only talking to you. You're correct, I did not pay attention to what you and Valiant were talking about. I made a comment, you responded to that comment "correcting" or "teaching" me something. From that point I was only talking to you, and you are so caught up in so many dang arguments trying to teach everyone all your wisdom, because we must all have everything wrong, and it must be your job to straighten us out. You got me, I have no clue what you're talking about at all. You win, and you never even showed me the error I made that you disagreed with. You respond to me to correct me, yet cannot tell me what I said you disagreed with. But I'm just too dumb to get you. You win, have a nice life.
 

valiant

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So Paul driving out evil spirits is not relevant?


What about the commentary for Luke 9:49?
The casting out of evil spirits was possible by men BECAUSE Satan was restrained and cast out
 

Jimbone

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This needs to be addressed because this particular poster is suggesting that tribulation will only come in Jerusalem on the Jewish people and no one else will be effected
I SPECIFICALLY said that the timing of the rapture is not an issue the body of Christ should "DIVIDE" on, that we should not fight and argue, and name call, and question each others faith over. We should come together in love and respect to discuss these things. THAT'S IT!!!!!!!! That was my only point and when I made that comment, you and valiant hadn't even started talking about that yet, and even if you had I wasn't responding to you.

I was very clear in what I was talking about, ONLY the timing of the rapture, something that a saved person could choose to believe either way. Whatever you and valiant were talking about is between you and him. You take 1 sentence out of my comment and apply it to a conversation I didn't and don't even know about.

All I said was it would work better if we should come together in love and respect to discuss these things, and you responded to THAT comment correcting me. I'm sorry about everything else you had going in your head or how you took what I said, but if you disagree with my original point that the body should come together in love and respect to work these things out then you disagree with Jesus and ALL the early church fathers, I don't think you really do I just think your so caught up in "correcting" everyone that you see enemies in the shadows, make problems were there are none, and just straight up like to argue. Non of which are fruits of the Spirit. Have a great day, may God bring you clarity and peace. Have a good day.
 
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Anyone saying satan is bound and not a factor anymore,is promoting some doctrine that needs that to be.
 
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popeye

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Thank you Jesus for the truth. May you ever be exalted and magnified in your people.

You alone are truth. Thank you for truth.
 

valiant

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Anyone saying satan is bound and not a factor anymore,is promoting some doctrine that needs that to be.
no one that I know of has said that. He is restrained, but he is very much alive.
 
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miknik5

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Ok

I'll do what YOU want me to do

I'll agree that we disagree