TRINITY IS A FALSE TEACHING.

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jackmoore said:
Well your worship if you think you can do better give me proof from your direct translation of the greek to English. PLEASE. Lets see if you come up with some washed out argument. Because i can back up my so called "parroted argument"
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As I had said in my initial post to you, go right ahead... I would love to see what new and innovative input you have to offer. I've been interacting with Unitarians for the last 6 years, and I do so on a consistent basis. In fact, if I was a betting man, I would bet my money that I probably know your own arguments better than you do. Ask just about anyone here on the forums, browse all my postings. I don't often come onto CC to offer input, but every now and then I peak my little head in to offer input. And what is that one area that I do so more than any other?
 
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GraceBeUntoYou said:
As I had said in my initial post to you, go right ahead... I would love to see what new and innovative input you have to offer. I've been interacting with Unitarians for the last 6 years, and I do so on a consistent basis. In fact, if I was a betting man, I would bet my money that I probably know your own arguments better than you do. Ask just about anyone here on the forums, browse all my postings. I don't often come onto CC to offer input, but every now and then I peak my little head in, and what is the one area I'm always commenting on? If not KJV-Onlyism, then it's the Deity of Christ, or Unitarianism.
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But where is your proof for trinity because i am tired of giving proof i actually want some.
 
Paul talked about the God head. Jesus was baptised and the Holy Spirit descended in the form of a dove and voice spoke from heaven and said this is my son in whom I am well pleased. Then in John 1 we see that the word was with God and the word was God and the word became flesh and dwelt among us. The proof is there, if you choose or are lead to believe the bible.
 
st_sebastian said:
Many non-trinitarians believe that it's an agent of God - Muslims teach that it's an angel - or it may be impersonal aspect of God - this is the traditional Jewish understanding, if I've read them correctly.
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Muslims, like the Jews, have mis-interpreted their scripture set.

The Koran actually copies and confirms the Biblical stance on the Trinity...
 
Bowman said:
Muslims, like the Jews, have mis-interpreted their scripture set. The Koran actually copies and confirms the Biblical stance on the Trinity...
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I have not said they were correct. I have responded to a question: If it's not God, what is it? Satan?

I'm answering the question by noting that other people have found beliefs in-between. Correct? I did not comment.
 
st_sebastian said:
I have not said they were correct. I have responded to a question: If it's not God, what is it? Satan?

I'm answering the question by noting that other people have found beliefs in-between. Correct? I did not comment.
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Muslims have incorrectly aligned the Arch angel Gabriel with the Spirit....just like JW's have the Arch Angel Michael with the Son...
 
Bowman said:
Muslims, like the Jews, have mis-interpreted their scripture set.

The Koran actually copies and confirms the Biblical stance on the Trinity...
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Usually I ignore most stuff you say because it is out with the pixies. :)

Can you please provide the proof for this.
 
jackmoore said:
But where is your proof for trinity because i am tired of giving proof i actually want some.
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Anyone here will tell you that it's never been my style to produce a comprehensive index of passages that support my conclusions. I think doing so would make whatever kind of discussion we intend on having wind up going a million different directions. We would never be able to stay on the same page, and the amount of writing would be entirely too tedious. Imagine the possibilities. I have a book sitting on my shelf right now by Larry Hurtado that's over six-hundred pages from start to finish on the subject of devotion to Jesus in earliest Christianity. I've got another book that's over three-hundred pages by Simon Gathercole that demonstrates the preexistence of Christ through the "I have come" sayings of Jesus in Matthew, Mark, and Luke in comparison to Rabbinic, and Second Temple Jewish literature. So there's lots to talk about, and a whole lot more to offer.
 
The thing about false teachers denying the trinity, they systematically deny the Divinity of Christ.
What does that mean about them denying the Divinity of Christ ?

This : It's written " Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:1-3 ( KJV )

I would not call them Jehovah witnesses, for they are not ! They are Satan witnesses, for they preach the gospel of the Antichrist, and they hate the true Gospel of Christ, they hate Christ and deny His Divinity because they are moved by the spirit of the Antichrist, just as it is written above !

They need to repent, and to trust in the Plain Lord's Word just as it is written only !
 
The holy spirit is a person, he speaks and can be grieved and most of us do that. And any who will compare the quran to the bible needs to get saved. The Quran teaches to lie, and kill in order to spread Islam. Thats why you cannot have peace negotiations them. If we were smart, we would advertise that our bullets are coated in pigs blood and drop bacon and not bombs. If they die in battle they are guaranteed 70 virgins and access to the 7th door of heaven. But if they touch a pig, they are doomed.
 
Kerry said:
But if they touch a pig, they are doomed.
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That is not true. One of the verses of the Quran says that if you're driven to eat pork out of necessity, God forgives. The same principle applies if you're shot with a bullet.
 
The coran denies the Divinity of Christ and tells Jesus is just a simple man !
Only the spirit of the Antichrist can tell that !
 
st_sebastian said:
For what it's worth, since you're insulting an argument I didn't make (assuming you typed this and didn't just lazily steal it without attribution - are you Rand Paul?), my Greek teacher's name was Rufus Davis and I got an A in all three semesters of Ancient. They didn't offer Koine. If you want to ask him if I know the function of the genders in Greek and how they don't correspond to English genders then yes, he considered that fairly important.
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It seems you are very new here, but just in case you didn't already know, the forums are not always so full of simpletons. Occasionally, you'll spot a few of us who know what we're talking about, or have actually studied NT Greek, or textual criticism to some degree. It just so happens you stumbled into what I would consider, my territory. Think of it this way. You're the pitcher, I'm the batter, and you just threw me a home run.

I'll ask once more, if you were to look over my 440+ posts here on CC, which discussions have I contributed to the most?
 
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So that means the coran is not from the Spirit of God ! For God cannot deny Himself !
 
Well, I have been to Egypt. The man that was my liaison wanted to talk religion the whole time i was there (two weeks). Then He came to our office in georgia and we ordered pizza, he ask if there was any pork. I said this one has bacon but the others don't. He said, I'm sorry but now they are all contaminated and would not eat. Yes, the Quran teaches that Islam is to be spread by any means .
 
But he kept asking to go to a strip club in Atlanta. Finally one of our employees took him.
 
GraceBeUntoYou said:
It seems you are very new here, but just in case you didn't already know, the forums are not always so full of simpletons. Occasionally, you'll spot a few of us who know what we're talking about, or have actually studied NT Greek, or textual criticism to some degree. It just so happens you stumbled into what I would consider, my territory. Think of it this way. You're the pitcher, I'm the batter, and you just threw me a home run.

I'll ask once more, if you were to look over my 440+ posts here on CC, which discussion have I contributed to the most?
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Who do you call " simpletons " ?
The poor ignorant ones of us who don't know " NT Greek " or " textual criticism " ?

Knowledge is incommensurately good indeed, but humility in knowledge is infinitely much better !
Don't you think so ?
 
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