Was Hitler Gay?

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Are you insane? The Nazis were gay? Yeah, that's why they had the "Night of Long Knives." Why they arrested, sterilized, and murdered homosexuals throughout Nazi Germany.

The Nazis were not gay. Hitler was not gay. They murdered and ordered the torture of homosexuals.

Its called Paragraph 175. Read about it.


The Night of the Long Knives was not implemented by homosexuals, but by Heinrich Himmler, who was by all accounts asexual, and by Herman Goehring, who was often quoted about how homosexuals were weak and evil men.
 
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Are you insane? The Nazis were gay? Yeah, that's why they had the "Night of Long Knives." Why they arrested, sterilized, and murdered homosexuals throughout Nazi Germany.

The Nazis were not gay. Hitler was not gay. They murdered and ordered the torture of homosexuals.

Its called Paragraph 175. Read about it.


The Night of the Long Knives was not implemented by homosexuals, but by Heinrich Himmler, who was by all accounts asexual, and by Herman Goehring, who was often quoted about how homosexuals were weak and evil men.

Dude its historical fact... Herman Goering wasn't gay? come on?

Most of Hitler's closest aides were homosexuals or sexual deviants. This circle included not only Roehm but the Hitler Youth leader, the Minister of Justice, the Minister of Economics, Hermann Goering (who may not have been homosexual but who liked to dress in drag, paint his nails and put rouge on his cheeks), his personal attorney and his bodyguards. Hitler himself likely functioned as a male prostitute in the days of his youth in Vienna.
 
Adolf Hitler was gay - or so says a sensational new biography on the Nazi dictator due to be published tomorrow. Eyewitness accounts from Hitler's former lovers, and historical documents that for the first time illuminate rumours that have circulated for over half a century, are disclosed in Hitler's Secret: The Double Life of a Dictator .
The respected German historian Lothar Machtan even claims in his book that Hitler ordered the deaths of several high-ranking Nazis to prevent the secret of his homosexuality from surfacing.
Ernst Röhm, the leader of Hitler's Sturm Abteilung or Storm Troopers, tried to blackmail Hitler by threatening to reveal his sexuality. Röhm, who was also gay, was murdered as a result, according to Machtan, a history teacher at Bremen University.


He refers to scores of historical documents to support his thesis. In 1915, the young Hitler was a dispatch rider at the front in France. Years later, yet before Hitler became infamous, one of his fellow soldiers, Hans Mend, wrote in his memoirs: 'At night, Hitler lay with Schmidl, his male whore.' Schmidl, otherwise known as Ernst Schmidt, and Hitler were 'inseparable lovers' for five years, according to Machtan.
 
Do you think being gay is evil? Do you think one sin could open the door to other sins?

All sin is evil and yes habitual sin certainly does open the door to other sins,it's gradual that's how the devil works.
 
All sin is evil and yes habitual sin certainly does open the door to other sins,it's gradual that's how the devil works.

Sure makes sense to me ...I believe its a biblical principal as well. It seems the whole German culture had falling into a sexually deviant behavior and I think allow them to be in such a state of blindness that allowed the Nazi party to rise and take control of their minds.
 
Paragraph 175.

What you suggest is mere propaganda put forward by a couple books you read. You haven't met Holocaust survivors and sat with them as they told their story. I have, and that included 3 men who were gay, 2 of them weren't even Jewish. You ignore that hate doesn't care and can be hypocritical. You make it seem that because gays are accepted, therefore Nazis. Let me be honest with you. This is political overreactive propaganda after the Supreme Court decision. Instead of putting out lies about how the Nazis were gay, and isn't that interesting, wonder whats going to happen to the USA now...
How about talking about how we as Christians begin to teach family values, how do we set things right...because WE FAILED TO TEACH IT IN THE 1960s-1970s and to quote Malcolm X, "THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST!"
 
First, it's important to remember that rapid moral decline occurred prior to the rise of Nazi Germany (much like is presently happening in the U.S.). It was during this time that homosexuality in German society became much more acceptable.

Hubert R. Knickerbocker (doctor of psychiatry and Pulitzer winning journalist) documented rampant homosexuality amongst Nazi leaders writing that Röhm's "chiefs, men of the rank of Gruppenfuehrer or Obergruppenfuehrer, commanding units of several hundred thousand Storm Troopers, were almost without exception homosexuals. Indeed, unless a Storm Troop officer were homosexual, he had no chance of advancement" early on.

Historians, such as Lothar Machtan and others, uncovered historical evidence that suggest Adolf Hitler may have engaged in homosexuality. However, the sexuality of Hitler is a matter of scholarly debate and historians are divided on whether Hitler was homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual or asexual.

However, this was early on and homosexuality began to be suppressed inside the Nazi party and outside in German society eventually severely with disenrollment from the party for Nazi members and prison sentences for the general population.

It was a bizarre early manifestation in the origins of the Nazi Party that was brought to heel by Himmler and the SS beginning in 1933 with an anti-homosexuality speech he made in which he strongly condemned the behavior.

Of course, championing homosexual behavior as a suitable replacement for heterosexuality is now a mainstay of the left in these present times.
 
We don't need to know if Hitler was gay to prove that's what led him to the evil he committed. We only need to see that the current gay agenda mirrors the same attitudes..... look forward-back or back-forward..... they match.

I appreciate Mitspa's eye-opening Op. We all know the CIA was born from Germany, brain-washing came from there, their weapons systems, etc., etc. We've seen what these things have evolved into. Now we're being shown where our country is going with the rights of sodomites being forced on our population. Wait till they hold the higher offices of our nation..... wait..... some of them already do. Have you heard of the children that's been sneaked into Washington over the years? Very similar to the things that happen with the royalty in Britain with kids from catholic orphanages.

This is why things are moving so quickly now. They have only just begun.
 
I happen to have Shirer's book here in searchable .pdf form (and yes I have read it all the way through). Let's look at Shirer's assertions one by one.

Page 35 (speaking of Ernst Roehm):

"A tough, ruthless, driving man – albeit, like so many of the early Nazis, a homosexual – he helped to organize the first Nazi strong-arm squads which grew into the S.A., the army of storm troopers which he commanded until his execution by Hitler in 1934."

Page 45 (speaking of Hitler's acceptance of anyone that could serve his purpose):

"Murderers, pimps, homosexual perverts, drug addicts or just plain rowdies were all the same to him if they served his purposes."

Page 106:

"But the brown-shirted S.A. never became much more than a motley mob of brawlers. Many of its top leaders, beginning with its chief, Roehm, were notorious homosexual perverts. Lieutenant Edmund Heines, who led the Munich S.A., was not only a homosexual but a convicted murderer. These two and dozens of others quarreled and feuded as only men of unnatural sexual inclinations, with their peculiar jealousies, can. To have at hand a more dependable band Hitler created the S.S. – Schutzstaffel – put their members in black uniforms similar to those worn by the Italian Fascist! and made them swear a special oath of loyalty to him personally."

Page 107 (sounds a lot like Obama and the Democrats lol):

"No other party in Germany came near to attracting so many shady characters. As we have seen, a conglomeration of pimps, murderers, homosexuals, alcoholics and blackmailers flocked to the party as if to a natural haven. Hitler did not care, as long as they were useful to him."

Page 190:

"The whole tradition of the military caste [in the pre-Nazi regular German Army] would be destroyed if the roughneck Roehm and his brawling Brownshirts should get control of the Army. Moreover, the generals were shocked by the tales, now beginning to receive wide circulation, of the corruption and debauchery of the homosexual clique around the S.A. chief. As General von Brauchitsch would later testify, 'rearmament was too serious and difficult a business to permit the participation of peculators, drunkards and homosexuals.'”

Page 196:

"Edmund Heines, the S.A. Obergruppenfuehrer of Silesia, a convicted murderer, a notorious homosexual with a girlish face on the brawny body of a piano mover, was in bed with a young man."

Page 280:

"On January 25, the day on which Goering was showing Hitler the police record of Blomberg’s bride, he also spread before the Fuehrer an even more damaging document. This had been conveniently provided by Himmler and his principal aide, Heydrich, chief of the S.D., the S.S. Security Service, and it purported to show that General von Fritsch had been guilty of homosexual offenses under Section 175 of the German criminal code and that he had been paying blackmail to an ex-convict since 1935 to hush the matter up."

Page 281:

"His name was Hans Schmidt and he had a long prison record dating back to his first sentence to a boy’s reformatory. His chief weakness, it developed, had been spying on homosexuals and then blackmailing them. He now professed to recognize General von Fritsch as the Army officer whom he had caught in a homosexual offense in a dark alley near the Potsdam railroad station in Berlin with an underworld character by the name of 'Bavarian Joe.'” [on two later pages subsequently forced to resign].

^ That's all assertions of homosexuality in Shirer's famous book.


William Shirer says in his definitive "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," not only that Roehm was "
important in the rise of Hitler," but also "like so many of the early Nazis, (he was) a homosexual."
 
Paragraph 175.

What you suggest is mere propaganda put forward by a couple books you read. You haven't met Holocaust survivors and sat with them as they told their story. I have, and that included 3 men who were gay, 2 of them weren't even Jewish. You ignore that hate doesn't care and can be hypocritical. You make it seem that because gays are accepted, therefore Nazis. Let me be honest with you. This is political overreactive propaganda after the Supreme Court decision. Instead of putting out lies about how the Nazis were gay, and isn't that interesting, wonder whats going to happen to the USA now...
How about talking about how we as Christians begin to teach family values, how do we set things right...because WE FAILED TO TEACH IT IN THE 1960s-1970s and to quote Malcolm X, "THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST!"

I think the evidence is overwhelming for what these authors are saying and even in post #2 you see a ardent liberal and gay journalist with enough courage to admit what the facts are. And quoting Malcolm x is the same as quoting hitler in my view.
 
Early Nazi leaders were immoral, both alcoholic and often homosexual, but Himmler turned against homosexuality in 1933 and severe persecution followed.

What's to argue about when you're both right?
 
Early Nazi leaders were immoral, both alcoholic and often homosexual, but Himmler turned against homosexuality in 1933 and severe persecution followed.

What's to argue about when you're both right?

Well I think this was a show...kinda like Obama supporting traditional marriage a few years ago...and the Nazis seem to separate homosexuals into groups kinda like in prison today.

I think the evidence is that homosexual conduct was always a part of the Nazi culture, even tho they tried to appear as being against it...we have politicians like that today ...and preachers for that matter.
 
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Well I think this was a show...kinda like Obama supporting traditional marriage a few years ago...and the Nazis seem to separate homosexuals into groups kinda like in prison today.

I think the evidence is that homosexual conduct was always a part of the Nazi culture, even tho they tried to appear as being against it...we have politicians like that today ...and preachers for that matter.
Again, read about the horrors brought about by Paragraph 175.
 
Again, read about the horrors brought about by Paragraph 175.

Look nobody denies that these guys killed folks...but the fact still remains the heart of the whole sick deal was a group of homosexuals and the Nazi party was basically started as a gay political club. Read post #2 by a liberal gay reporter...
 
Look nobody denies that these guys killed folks...but the fact still remains the heart of the whole sick deal was a group of homosexuals and the Nazi party was basically started as a gay political club. Read post #2 by a liberal gay reporter...
To simply say it was a gay agenda that brought about the Nazi party is to disregard Weimar Germany. And it honestly denegrates every homosexual on this planet, without cause. They may be sinners, but accuse them of the RIGHT sin. We don't say all liars if left unto their own devices will become murderers, nor should we say that homosexuality leads to fascism or causes fascism.

And there is a reason why this topic is so close to me. Even though I am celibate, and believe homosexual acts are sinful and that homosexuality is a disordered desire, I would have been on those trains and given a pink triangle. I would have been harassed by SS guards and fellow prisoners and starved. In the faces of the dead, I see myself. That is a burden that I give unto Christ.
 
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To simply say it was a gay agenda that brought about the Nazi party is to disregard Weimar Germany. And it honestly denegrates every homosexual on this planet, without cause. They may be sinners, but accuse them of the RIGHT sin. We don't say all liars if left unto their own devices will become murderers, nor should we say that homosexuality leads to fascism or causes fascism.
Its not just me that can see the connection ...again read the second post on this thread... and my thought is that a group or society that gives itself over to sexual perversions is opening the door to all sin and manner of evil.
 
Sure makes sense to me ...I believe its a biblical principal as well. It seems the whole German culture had falling into a sexually deviant behavior and I think allow them to be in such a state of blindness that allowed the Nazi party to rise and take control of their minds.

Germany fell into sexual deviancy in between the first and second world wars.There is a fascinating and shocking documentary on youtube that mentions this along with the atrocities committed by the allies against German civilians called ''HELLSTORM''. Do yourself a favor and download it.
 
Yes, Germany did fall into deviancy between the wars. However, the documentary you refer to addresses the period around the end of WWII not WWI or between the wars. It really has nothing to do with the sexual deviancy of the Nazi party.

But it's interesting. I'm watching it now. But, where are the scholarly sources to support the internet documentary, book, and website?

All I see is a non-scholar named Thomas Goodrich making assertions in a book, website, and internet video he produced... some true but not all. So, please provide scholarly sources.

Also, screw those Nazis. They needed to go down hard.


Germany fell into sexual deviancy in between the first and second world wars.There is a fascinating and shocking documentary on youtube that mentions this along with the atrocities committed by the allies against German civilians called ''HELLSTORM''. Do yourself a favor and download it.
 
Ok, I just turned the documentary off because it stated that the allies were committed to murdering the entire German population "every man, woman, and child." *rolls eyes*. That's nonsense. This looks like white supremacy propaganda.