This is a false equivalence, even if it's "THE" angel of God, it's still angel, aka messenger, subject to Rev. 19:10 and Heb. 1:5. "An" angel of God, "THE" angel of God or the "Angel" of God, the word choice is up to the translator's discretion. It's the right approach to read Jesus into the OT protagonists (Joseph, Moses, David, etc.), it is the wrong approach to read Him into these theophanies, because those are God the FATHER.
It doesn't confuse me, I believe in simulation theory, i.e. the world we're living in is a simulation, God's spiritual realm is the base reality. Suppose there's a virtual world simulated on computer, you, who is human, must be simulated as a virtual character in order to operate in that world, flesh and blood is not compatible with 0s and 1s; likewise, God operates in our world as a human being.
Pre-incarnate= the Word Incarnate= Jesus = same Person. You failed to answer the question, Are you saying that it was impossible for the Word ( who BECAME Jesus when He put on flesh), to, as did some angels, inhabit a body, without being born of a woman? Yes or no, please.
Yes if God disregards his own rule in 1 Jn. 4:1-3; no if God follows his own rule in 1 Jn. 4:1-3. In which spirit are you confessing? "Inhabit a body" is otherwise known as "possession", that's what demonic, evil spirits do, it's their modus operandi, not God's.
In the old covenant sins were atoned for (covered), yearly, with animal sacrificial blood. Jesus came to earth, lived a sinless life, completed His assignment given Him by the Father, was crucified, buried and raised from the dead, ascended into heaven and sprinkled His precious blood on the mercy seat as the FINAL sacrifice for the REMITTANCE of our sins. So yes, Jesus is the FINAL atonement for sin, not covered over, but remitted ( remitted: to cancel or refrain from exacting or inflicting ( a debt or punishment ). It is finished!
You have agreed, in a previous post, that angels have taken on human form, we have to be careful these days, we might entertain (entertain: to show hospitality; to hold someone's attention or interest through engaging activities) angels unaware (even TODAY they might take on human form). Are you saying that they are being possessed by demonic, evil spirits? There is no dispute that Jesus the Christ has come in the flesh, you're sounding like a broken, no scratched, record. I am referring to the Word, the preincarnate Christ, not yet manifested as Jesus. So that passage of scripture has NOTHING to do with what we are discussing and can't ( or shouldn't ) be applied here. I could be offended by your first question but I recognize the enemies traps when I see them. If you have to go there then I know that you really don't have solid reasoning behind your stance, And with that, I wish you nothing but the best.
Is that the contemplative mysticism that you espouse from your house?
Yes quite.
Yes I agree to all that - that’s not the point I was looking for a specific passage
Yes all accepted any specific passage saying atonement - remittance is a different meaning
First of all, I NEVER try to " figure God out ", an exercise in futility. The Word, who manifested as Jesus on earth by putting on flesh, " humbled Himself " and became" a little lower than the angels" for the suffering of death. In His humble state don't you think He became a Servant of the Father? He said Himself that He came " to do the Fathers' will." Isn't that what a servant does? I base my beliefs on what scripture says, to the best of my ability, mostly ( I have to be honest). When the Bible says that Abram calls one of the three visitors Lord, if it was just an angel, the angel, as in other places in scripture, would have corrected him immediately, but the Angel didn't. That lets me know that it was the Lord, in human form, that ate and drank with Abram. It was the Word, veiled by flesh, who visited Abram and met face to face with Moses. It was the Father who stated no one could seer Him and live. There is no instance where I find, in scripture, the Holy Spirit indwelling a body that was not born of a woman. So if an angel, who are spirits, as stated before, can appear as men what limits have you put on God the Word to not have done the same?
