I don't. In the OT, the Word was Torah, in the NT, Jesus.P.S. Now if you want to say that the Word, in human form as Jesus for 33 yrs, was God's " medium " I will agree with you on that point, but not before then or after.
I don't. In the OT, the Word was Torah, in the NT, Jesus.P.S. Now if you want to say that the Word, in human form as Jesus for 33 yrs, was God's " medium " I will agree with you on that point, but not before then or after.
" And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night." Ex. 13:21 " And THE ANGEL OF GOD, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:" Ex. 14:19 Same Angel, same Lord? Let me hear YOUR revisionist answer to this one.That's retcon, "retroactive continuity", a revision of history to justify a present progress or theory. I genuinely think you've taken the wrong approach, heading down a wrong rabbit hole. The right approach is to discover Jesus's quality and character in the OT heroes - Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, etc., reading Jesus into their stories, not the THEOphanies they were interacting with, those were God the Father.
" And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war, His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a Name written, that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD" Rev. 19:11-13. Who, pray tell, is this talking about?I don't. In the OT, the Word was Torah, in the NT, Jesus.
My thought was theoretical and not dogmatic. I suggested not that it was "Joseph's sperm" in reality, but a creation by God of sperm that looked exactly like Joseph's sperm. That would not make Joseph the actual father, but it would mean that Jesus would carry characteristics of David on his father's side.If Jesus had Joseph's DNA, perfect or imperfect, Joseph would be Jesus' legitimate father wouldn't he? I don't think Joseph played any part in the birth of Jesus, He was Child of the Holy Ghost. His job was to raise Him, under the law.
I may be wrong, I didn't look it up, but wasn't David in Mary's genealogy?My thought was theoretical and not dogmatic. I suggested not that it was "Joseph's sperm" in reality, but a creation by God of sperm that looked exactly like Joseph's sperm. That would not make Joseph the actual father, but it would mean that Jesus would carry characteristics of David on his father's side.
Same cloud before and behind them, same theophany." And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night." Ex. 13:21 " And THE ANGEL OF GOD, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:" Ex. 14:19 Same Angel, same Lord? Let me hear YOUR revisionist answer to this one.
Fulfillment of Is. 63:1-6." And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war, His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a Name written, that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD" Rev. 19:11-13. Who, pray tell, is this talking about?
Both Mary and Joseph were descendants of David.I may be wrong, I didn't look it up, but wasn't David in Mary's genealogy?
The conventional teaching is that Matthew's genealogy is Joseph's, Luke's Mary's, but I believe in the other way around - Matthew's Mary's, Luke's Joseph's. "Husband of Mary" in the historical and cultural context actually refers to a "male guardian", for an unmarried young woman that's usually her father or brother, so that Joseph might be Mary's father, not her husband.Both Mary and Joseph were descendants of David.
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So the Father is called "The Angel of God "???Same cloud before and behind them, same theophany.
You didn't answer the question.Fulfillment of Is. 63:1-6.
"Who is this who comes from Edom,
With dyed garments from Bozrah,
This One who is glorious in His apparel,
Traveling in the greatness of His strength?"
If your colleague talks to you on Zoom or call, would you identify your laptop or phone as your colleague? As though the spirit of your colleague is dwelling in those devices?So the Father is called "The Angel of God "???
Yes I did. Fulfillment of Is. 63:1-6.You didn't answer the question.
The Angel of God, is God, as an angel.So the Father is called "The Angel of God "???
" and Jacob fathered Joesph, the HUSBAND OF MIRIAM, from whom was born Yeshua who is called the Messiah." Matthew 1:16 (Tree Of Life Bible, from the Messianic Jewish Family Bible Society) By the way Lovette I found an interesting passage of scripture " There must not be found among you anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through the fIre, or a fortune teller, soothsayer, omen reader, or sorcerer, or one who casts spells, OR A MEDIUM, a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For WHOSOEVER DOES THESE THINGS IS AN ABOMINATION TO ADONAI....." Deut. 18:10-12. Still think God uses mediums?The conventional teaching is that Matthew's genealogy is Joseph's, Luke's Mary's, but I believe in the other way around - Matthew's Mary's, Luke's Joseph's. "Husband of Mary" in the historical and cultural context actually refers to a "male guardian", for an unmarried young woman that's usually her father or brother, so that Joseph might be Mary's father, not her husband.
Who fulfilled it? What's His Name? " Stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry,..." I Sam 15:23Yes I did. Fulfillment of Is. 63:1-6.
The Lord, the Angel of God was IN THE CLOUD, He was not the cloud itself.If your colleague talks to you on Zoom or call, would you identify your laptop or phone as your colleague? As though the spirit of your colleague is dwelling in those devices?
" The Angel of God, is God(the Word), as an Angel.The Angel of God, is God, as an angel.
Just as Jesus Christ, is God, as a man.
You're just being triggered by the word. Change it into middleman or intermediate if you like. If you preach to anybody about God, you are in that capacity." and Jacob fathered Joesph, the HUSBAND OF MIRIAM, from whom was born Yeshua who is called the Messiah." Matthew 1:16 (Tree Of Life Bible, from the Messianic Jewish Family Bible Society) By the way Lovette I found an interesting passage of scripture " There must not be found among you anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through the fIre, or a fortune teller, soothsayer, omen reader, or sorcerer, or one who casts spells, OR A MEDIUM, a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For WHOSOEVER DOES THESE THINGS IS AN ABOMINATION TO ADONAI....." Deut. 18:10-12. Still think God uses mediums?