Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse

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sex is essential in the marriage act, does that mirror the relationship with Jesus? What he taught is the opposite, there’s no marriage in resurrection when we’re in eternal Union with him.
Sex is a picture of progression in prayer and communion with Him (It’s also a picture of the temple) - the believer begins by praying and inviting Jesus’s presence, calling His name. The believer prays until they feel a release or an importation. Praying and listening until they receive a response.

Lovette, this is very basic stuff. Not sure what level of church or spiritual training you’ve received but I would advise to ask God to draw resources and people to you that will help you grow.
 
Sex is a picture of progression in prayer and communion with Him (It’s also a picture of the temple) - the believer begins by praying and inviting Jesus’s presence, calling His name. The believer prays until they feel a release or an importation. Praying and listening until they receive a response.

Lovette, this is very basic stuff. Not sure what level of church or spiritual training you’ve received but I would advise to ask God to draw resources and people to you that will help you grow.
No, it's a animalistic instinct, using another person's body to satisfy your own need. All animals have sex and live for sex, a follower of Christ is called for a higher purpose, neither prayer nor communion requires your participation with your naughty bit which God designed for peeing.
 
reneweddaybyday said:
the marriages are not fraudulent ... and I know for a fact that when both husband and wife are committed to God, that marriage is far, far superior (spiritually speaking) than if husband and wife are not committed to God.​

nope ... I know from personal experience because my husband and I were already in relationship when his cousin witnessed to us and brought us to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Are you born again, Lovette? If so, then you know the change that occurs in a person's life.
And I know from the word of God that marriage is for all mankind, not Christians only. Your personal story is purely anectodal.
reneweddaybyday said:
1 Corinthians 7:37-38 refer to a father who has a daughter ...​

What are you going on about? In our day and time, kids live with their parents after they reach adulthood and you call that "medieval"? Our daughter lived at home until she was married. Our oldest son lived at home until he was married. That is not a "medieval" practice, Lovette.
You said it was referring a father's disposal of his daughter, don't ask me.

reneweddaybyday said:
Nope, I'm still talking about the marriage relationship established by God ... which you deny. You are so dead set against marriage that you cannot even submit to the truth of God's Word concerning the relationship He established. Is marriage for everyone? No. Can marriage be a blessing to both spouses? Yes.​

Lovette said:
There's no promise of a "spouse" from God in the first place.​

reneweddaybyday said:
so? That does not change the fact that marriage can be a blessing to both spouses.​

sigh … we're speaking of marriage, Lovette. If there is a marriage, there are two spouses. I guess you haven't ferreted that out yet have you, Sherlock?
No, we're speaking of the IDOLATRY of marriage. Your "if" is just a baseless assumption.
Lovette said:
I ask you again, if you never had the opportunity to meet anybody, while everybody else around you seem to have their luck, would you still worship God?​

reneweddaybyday said:
yes.​

I am not married now and I worship God. My husband worshipped God while he was alive. I worshipped God while he was alive. We also gasp worshipped God together.
That's your busines which I asked nothing about.

reneweddaybyday said:
I worship God because I love Him.​

Nope.
Yes.
reneweddaybyday said:
What the world does has no effect on the truth of God's Word.​
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That you view what the world does as having some sort of effect concerning truth does not change truth into what the world considers true.​

A person does not have to be married to "get involved in what the world considers true". Your view of marriage is a prime example ... your view is wholly from a world standpoint as you have pointed out more than several times.
From a godly standpoint, God himself never married, neither did Paul, Timothy, John, and generations of church fathers and priests. Your view is a modern invention.

You don't believe now, even though you have been shown from God's Word ... you hold the world in higher esteem than God's Word.

Trying to explain to you the marriage relationship established by God is like trying to explain to an unbeliever that peace with God is not the same as cessation of conflict in the world. The believer is afforded peace through the Lord Jesus Christ in the midst of conflict.
And the believer is also smart enough to avoid such conflict in the first place.

reneweddaybyday said:
what sadducees? The sadducees were not with Jesus when his disciples asked Him "when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"​

We weren't talking about the sadducees. We were talking about the Olivet Discourse. You keep bringing the sadducees into the Olivet Discourse, but the sadduccees were not there. Jesus was answering questions asked of him by His disciples (Matthew 24:3 “And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”

The disciples came to Jesus privately ... there were no sadducees, pharisees, chief priests, scribes, elders involved in the discussion.

And, I again clarify ... I do not worship marriage, I worship God Who established the marriage relationship.
Then why are you so vehemently arguing for your earthly attachment when you should've been watching out for the signs of his coming, speaking of the Olivet Discourse?

Nope. The mention of "eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage" refers to the every day goings on in life. Jesus would have used terms such as gluttony and drunkenness if He had meant "excessive eating and drinking".
Yes, it is referring to gluttony and drunkenness at the fateful time where you should've been watching out for the signs of his coming. It's about the attitude of gross negligence.

reneweddaybyday said:
you are grasping at straws in your feeble attempt to support your erroneous claims.​

Glad you acknowledge your claim is erroneous.

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My claim is based on the word of God. I asked you again, was your marriage arranged or not? The model for marriage established by God is arranged marriage, God made Eve for Adam and joined them together. If you or anybody married on your own initiative, don't call that godly, that'd be taking the Lord's name in vain, and the error is all yours.
 
No, it's an animalistic instinct, using another person's body to satisfy your own need. All animals have sex and live for sex, a follower of Christ is called for a higher purpose, neither prayer nor communion requires your participation with your naughty bit which God designed for peeing.
You’ve got an anger there, or something has happened and the enemy is blocking you from seeing this.
 
Here are the verses where it is stated the man shall leave father and mother, cleave to his wife, and they shall be one:

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

Mark 10:7-8 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined to unto his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.


There is no indication in any of the verses (including Genesis 2:24) that God would do as you claim He did for Adam.
You're lying by omission. In all these verses, it states a man should be joined to his WIFE - not girlfriend, companion or fiancee, at that point they were already married. But how did she become his wife in the first place?

And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; (Gen. 2:18)

I will make him a helper comparable to him.” (Gen. 2:18)

He brought her to the man. (Gen. 2:22)
I'm not sure that everyone who is married began the relationship because they "feel not good being alone" so they "seeks out a mate".

Sometimes a person meets another, they start talking, they get to know each other, they date, then start thinking about marrying.


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Thanks, just a kind reminder, we live in a sinful and broken world, currently with a hostility and a distrust between men and women. Dating is all about your own feelings, anything godly is just your sanctimony. If you date that leads to marriage, it's not godly; if a marriage's godly, it can't be the result of dating.
 
No, I have a common sense. The enemy's distraction is the obsession with marriage, sex, romance, the whole package.
The key word is “the enemy”. Satan wants to attack this union. He wants to pervert it and destroy couples from coming together as one (“…a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined with his wife. The two shall become one flesh. What God has joined together…”). For those that are married, this is the one area where restoration happens in the marriage. The Bible also says, “…the marriage bed is undefiled.” Not everyone gets it right, and this is under heavy attack with porn and infidelity today, but God has blessed the marriage union between the husband and the wife.
 
The key word is “the enemy”. Satan wants to attack this union. He wants to pervert it and destroy couples from coming together as one (“…a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined with his wife. The two shall become one flesh. What God has joined together…”). For those that are married, this is the one area where restoration happens in the marriage. The Bible also says, “…the marriage bed is undefiled.” Not everyone gets it right, and this is under heavy attack with porn and infidelity today, but God has blessed the marriage union between the husband and the wife.
For those who're already married, good for them, but I'm talking about singles who have no wife to join with. The question is this - will you worship marriage and use God to get you a wife - or God, despite the lack of marriage? Once again, the inconvenient fact is that we're all born single, no one is entitled to a partner, God didn't slice open every Adam and make an Eve out of his rib. You don't need to be bothered with these "key words" when there's no wife to join with and no marraige bed to defile.
 
For those who're already married, good for them, but I'm talking about singles who have no wife to join with. The question is this - will you worship marriage and use God to get you a wife - or God, despite the lack of marriage? Once again, the inconvenient fact is that we're all born single, no one is entitled to a partner, God didn't slice open every Adam and make an Eve out of his rib. You don't need to be bothered with these "key words" when there's no wife to join with and no marraige bed to defile.
Got it. You don’t have to marry. Paul said it would be “better not to marry…unless a man couldn’t control his urges then he should…”Of course they were going through executions, torture, and punishment, so Paul probably thought it was easier not to drag a family through all that.