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jacko

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I will add the following…. May the Lord rebuke me if I said something that was out of line..
After all, I do understand that we are saved through a Jewish Messiah.

Amen
 

JaumeJ

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#22
Jewish from the name of the tribe e of Judah. When Leah gave birth to her male child she rejoiced saying 'I will praise Yah." All true Jews will praise Yah, God.

Messiah, the Anointed of Yah, God..

So YES, all who believe are the true and faithful Jews,.
 

jacko

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It means Holocaust deniers and anti- Jew people are unfortunately alive and well and spreading their hatred.
I’m not a holocaust denier, I’ made a valid point, which was not addressed by the OP, which was that most of the holocaust victims did not believe in Christ as Messiah..
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I’m not a holocaust denier, I’ made a valid point, which was not addressed by the OP, which was that most of the holocaust victims did not believe in Christ as Messiah..

No, I was answering what Publican was speaking on, not your response. Romans 11 tells us Jews are spiritually blind at the moment.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Jewish from the name of the tribe e of Judah. When Leah gave birth to her male child she rejoiced saying 'I will praise Yah." All true Jews will praise Yah, God.

Messiah, the Anointed of Yah, God..

So YES, all who believe are the true and faithful Jews,.

No, the Jews are the true Jews. Romans 11 tells us that. The church does not take the place of the Jews. Anyone who reads Romans 11 knows the difference.
 

JaumeJ

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No, the Jews are the true Jews. Romans 11 tells us that. The church does not take the place of the Jews. Anyone who reads Romans 11 knows the difference.
Are you saying that the Word is incorrect when teaching us that as converted to God we have become grfted into the original vine?? Just a question.
 

jacko

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No, I was answering what Publican was speaking on, not your response. Romans 11 tells us Jews are spiritually blind at the moment.
So do you agree that the Jews in the Holocaust are most likely…. Continue to suffer eternally after suffering a miserable death on earth?
 

JaumeJ

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So do you agree that the Jews in the Holocaust are most likely…. Continue to suffer eternally after suffering a miserable death on earth?
We have become the Israel of God with the New Jerusalem as our City to be bruoght down by God. We are become sons of God, as are all true Jews.
Revelations warns we should be aware of those who call themselves Jes and are not, rather they are a synagogue of Saten. It is all in the Book and understood by the Holy Spirit.
 

jacko

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We have become the Israel of God with the New Jerusalem as our City to be bruoght down by God. We are become sons of God, as are all true Jews.
Revelations warns we should be aware of those who call themselves Jes and are not, rather they are a synagogue of Saten. It is all in the Book and understood by the Holy Spirit.

That doesn’t answer the question
 

JaumeJ

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#33
I did not see an actual interrogative, however anyone who praises Yahweh in spirit and truth is the definition of f the name, Judah.

Anyone who does not, yet claims to be a Jew is not true. Good night and God bless you from Spain.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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So do you agree that the Jews in the Holocaust are most likely…. Continue to suffer eternally after suffering a miserable death on earth?

I honestly haven't looked deeply into that question. It would be a good one to explore. I do know that God is full of grace and mercy. But I wouldn't want to answer that question until I looked deeper.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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We have become the Israel of God with the New Jerusalem as our City to be bruoght down by God. We are become sons of God, as are all true Jews.
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No, you're wrong, the Bible does not teach this.
 

JaumeJ

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#36
The Holy Spirit will reveal the Word's teaching for all who seek.
 

Publican

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Why? I’m just curious as to the fate of the “Jews” who suffered horribly in the holocaust… my human mind can’t grasp having to suffered hell on earth and then to be separated from our creator in an afterlife if not through Jesus Christ.

It’s a tragedy beyond tragedies, and like anything yes I agree we should learn from it.
Jacko, love ya bro. And I have enjoyed our interactions of late. Yah be praised. You ask a lot of good questions. And you are obviously sincere.

So take this for what its worth.

We live in Gods creation. But this is satan's kingdom. satan is the father of lies and all liars. satan is the ultimate deceiver. Everything that comes from him is a lie. Half truths are whole lies, a little leaven leavens the whole lump. Satan is the master of diversion and obfuscation, as are his servants.
So Satan is a liar and a quite accomplished one, and all who reject Christ are under his spell.
All who are under his spell are under his control to some degree. This would include most of your world leaders, academics, scientists, priests and politicians. And sadly, the greater majority of modern theologians and pastors. We are in a war between good and evil and there is no neutral ground.

So where can truth be found in this empire of lies? Not in a college text book, not in a seminary, or an online forumCan we trust a scientific community that gives us evolution, transhumanism, CERN, the death shot? Obviously no. Can we trust the widely diverse theological community that as clearly evidenced by our time in this forum, cannot even agree on the most basic principles of biblical understanding? No, we cannot.

Its been said that the victors write the history books. Bro, Satan writes the history books.

The Truth is a Person. Make the chief desire of your life, to know this Person, this Jesus of Nazereth, through obedience and child-like trust. And He will lead you into all truth. To be like children before God implies not only learning new things, but letting go of many things we thought we knew. Men cannot be trusted, even sincere men of God can hold to beliefs and customs that will be revealed at the last day to be mere fantasies and fictions. Fortunately, Father God judges the hearts. And Christ ever liveth to make intercession on our behalf.

Dispensationalism is a new teaching in the church. Less than two hundred year old. In my not so humble opinion, spawned by satan himself after being release from his prison.

Satan Bound 1,000 Years
1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years
4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Satanic Rebellion Crushed
7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

I'm not posting this to open up some debate. I am posting this for your edification. Most on this forum will vehemently disagree with my position. There will be the usual accusations and condemnations and attacks upon my character etc.
There will be those who go so far as to say that I am an intentional deceiver and an apostate or never knew Christ etc. Which would be laughable if it weren't so evil.

I'm no theologian praise God.
And I make no claims to special revelation or esoteric knowledge.
And while I endeavor daily to live a life of purity before God my Father.
I'm just another sinner like everyone else.

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/obeying-god-will-make-you-wise

But this sinner, by the grace of God, knows when I'm being lied to. Does that mean I know the depth of the deception or am privy to all the details of such deception? No, of course not. It does mean, that I put no faith in man or the institutions of man, as man in his unregenerated state, is incapable of knowing God, and those who do not know God live their lives under the influence of evil.

Be obedient. And in your obedience seek wisdom. And wisdom will be given to you. Every phony historical narrative has a beginning, easily discovered by anyone who dares to look for it. The same holds true for the doctrines of devils. The dispensational heresy was intentionally manufactured to rewrite not only history, but the bible itself. To make it say what it plainly does not say, and to pave the way for this false paradigm of end time events that is now playing out before us. Nothing is as it seems, the key players are not who we have been told they are, and the accepted historical narrative that drives these events, has been largely fabricated. I know I'm not allowed to say that, and that very fact alone, should get all of your Spidey senses tingling.

The Greatest Deception is now upon us.

You will find a lot of encouragement on this site. And you will meet some wonderful brothers and sisters. You may even gain a few valuable spiritual insights. But the Truth is not found in an online forum, nor does it drip like honey from the mouths of your average YouTube preacher. And sadly, most of what we call the modern church of Christ is under the spell of the wicked one.

Notice the vitriol that follows whenever one of us dares to question their sacred cows, their unholy dogmas. Notice the projection. Notice how any disagreement about their chosen eschatology or their chosen people, will have them lashing out in anger and accusation, and the self righteous condemnation expressly forbidden by Christ.

My phones dying. I'm out of propane. I'm broke, its cold, and my truck won't start. So I probably won't have a chance to chat with you for a while. Or view the hostility that will certainly come my way for this post. Yah be praised.

May God be true, and every man a liar.

Shalom Brother.
Worship Yahweh God in the beauty of Holiness. Make your calling and election sure. Trust NO MAN or man made system, neither their history or their theology. Do the will of the Father and the Holy Spirit will guide you into all Truth.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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#39
@Plvs-Vltra and Publican, you will find that CC does not agree with Holocaust deniers. If this is what you are planning on spreading here, and it looks like you two friends are, you might as well stop. The Holocaust happened, if you continue to try and spread this lie you'll both be reported.

BTW there are Jews on this site. I'd be careful about spewing hate here.
 

Lynx

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Jacko, love ya bro. And I have enjoyed our interactions of late. Yah be praised. You ask a lot of good questions. And you are obviously sincere.

So take this for what its worth.

We live in Gods creation. But this is satan's kingdom. satan is the father of lies and all liars. satan is the ultimate deceiver. Everything that comes from him is a lie. Half truths are whole lies, a little leaven leavens the whole lump. Satan is the master of diversion and obfuscation, as are his servants.
So Satan is a liar and a quite accomplished one, and all who reject Christ are under his spell.
All who are under his spell are under his control to some degree. This would include most of your world leaders, academics, scientists, priests and politicians. And sadly, the greater majority of modern theologians and pastors. We are in a war between good and evil and there is no neutral ground.

So where can truth be found in this empire of lies? Not in a college text book, not in a seminary, or an online forumCan we trust a scientific community that gives us evolution, transhumanism, CERN, the death shot? Obviously no. Can we trust the widely diverse theological community that as clearly evidenced by our time in this forum, cannot even agree on the most basic principles of biblical understanding? No, we cannot.

Its been said that the victors write the history books. Bro, Satan writes the history books.

The Truth is a Person. Make the chief desire of your life, to know this Person, this Jesus of Nazereth, through obedience and child-like trust. And He will lead you into all truth. To be like children before God implies not only learning new things, but letting go of many things we thought we knew. Men cannot be trusted, even sincere men of God can hold to beliefs and customs that will be revealed at the last day to be mere fantasies and fictions. Fortunately, Father God judges the hearts. And Christ ever liveth to make intercession on our behalf.

Dispensationalism is a new teaching in the church. Less than two hundred year old. In my not so humble opinion, spawned by satan himself after being release from his prison.

Satan Bound 1,000 Years
1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years
4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Satanic Rebellion Crushed
7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

I'm not posting this to open up some debate. I am posting this for your edification. Most on this forum will vehemently disagree with my position. There will be the usual accusations and condemnations and attacks upon my character etc.
There will be those who go so far as to say that I am an intentional deceiver and an apostate or never knew Christ etc. Which would be laughable if it weren't so evil.


I'm no theologian praise God.
And I make no claims to special revelation or esoteric knowledge.
And while I endeavor daily to live a life of purity before God my Father.
I'm just another sinner like everyone else.


https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/obeying-god-will-make-you-wise

But this sinner, by the grace of God, knows when I'm being lied to. Does that mean I know the depth of the deception or am privy to all the details of such deception? No, of course not. It does mean, that I put no faith in man or the institutions of man, as man in his unregenerated state, is incapable of knowing God, and those who do not know God live their lives under the influence of evil.

Be obedient. And in your obedience seek wisdom. And wisdom will be given to you. Every phony historical narrative has a beginning, easily discovered by anyone who dares to look for it. The same holds true for the doctrines of devils. The dispensational heresy was intentionally manufactured to rewrite not only history, but the bible itself. To make it say what it plainly does not say, and to pave the way for this false paradigm of end time events that is now playing out before us. Nothing is as it seems, the key players are not who we have been told they are, and the accepted historical narrative that drives these events, has been largely fabricated. I know I'm not allowed to say that, and that very fact alone, should get all of your Spidey senses tingling.

The Greatest Deception is now upon us.

You will find a lot of encouragement on this site. And you will meet some wonderful brothers and sisters. You may even gain a few valuable spiritual insights. But the Truth is not found in an online forum, nor does it drip like honey from the mouths of your average YouTube preacher. And sadly, most of what we call the modern church of Christ is under the spell of the wicked one.

Notice the vitriol that follows whenever one of us dares to question their sacred cows, their unholy dogmas. Notice the projection. Notice how any disagreement about their chosen eschatology or their chosen people, will have them lashing out in anger and accusation, and the self righteous condemnation expressly forbidden by Christ.

My phones dying. I'm out of propane. I'm broke, its cold, and my truck won't start. So I probably won't have a chance to chat with you for a while. Or view the hostility that will certainly come my way for this post. Yah be praised.

May God be true, and every man a liar.

Shalom Brother.
Worship Yahweh God in the beauty of Holiness. Make your calling and election sure. Trust NO MAN or man made system, neither their history or their theology. Do the will of the Father and the Holy Spirit will guide you into all Truth.
So you have rejected all information sources, deemed them all works of the devil... And you have figured out the secret of everything, out there on the side of the mountain, all by yourself.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.

You do realize how ludicrous it sounds, right? You do know what a stereotype the "crazy old man on the side of the mountain who thinks he knows all the great secrets" is, right?

You do understand why it's hard for people to believe you... Right?