Weird stuff I think about

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Grace-Like-Rain

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Sometimes I wonder about weird stuff.

Today I wondered about life before the Fall of Man, and the immortality mankind was to have had, and how that would look on a practical level. Of course, there would have been no sickness, no aging process, no violent crime, etc. But what about accidents? Our bodies were designed to need oxygen, for instance. What would have happened if someone tripped and fell into deep water and couldn't breathe? Would they drown?

Welcome to my brain, folks.
 
Better yet, would there be accidents? Accident is an imperfection. Before sin, before imperfection, was there an ability to have an accident?
 
Hmm... good thread, Grace!
I can't say I've ever thought about that side of things before the Fall, but I have wondered what would've happened if some of the animals on-board the ark (or even some of Noah's family for instance) had died during the journey or became sick or injured. Or even if they left the ark and then died out in the wild not long after, then that kind (or those members of Noah's family) wouldn't have survived to populate. A little depressing, yes, but I reckon God had some role in preserving the inhabitants of the ark, both on and after.
 
Hmm... good thread, Grace!
I can't say I've ever thought about that side of things before the Fall, but I have wondered what would've happened if some of the animals on-board the ark (or even some of Noah's family for instance) had died during the journey or became sick or injured. Or even if they left the ark and then died out in the wild not long after, then that kind (or those members of Noah's family) wouldn't have survived to populate. A little depressing, yes, but I reckon God had some role in preserving the inhabitants of the ark, both on and after.

Animal wise, do we know that didn't happen?
 
This might be a little morbid but I have also always wondered if, before the fall, there was a need for restrooms... (were there outhouses in the Garden of Eden?) Did Adam have to pick up after the animals as well as name them? I'm assuming yes, because, after all, we know that people, at least, DID eat... Unless everyone dropped rainbows back then instead of what we know now.

And since this was before the fall, did it feel like a joyful duty back then instead of... the sense of repulsion we have about "cleaning up" ever since?
 
I don't think of bodily waste as morbid. Usually morbid revolves around death doesn't it?

But, again, the concept of 'bodily waste' goes against the perfection of original man. Or any waste. Man eats, he takes the 'good' parts and discards the 'bad/useless' parts is in and of itself an implied imperfection. The perfect foods we ate should have no waste. And our perfect bodies should be able to fully digest and utilize these perfect foods. A total compatibility.
Same with the animals, who were also, then, in their perfected state. Not eating one another, for example.

Also such bodily waste indicates at sickness and disease, which before sin, there would have been none.

From a logical standpoint such things could not have existed in perfection. But, then again, God isn't always logical. haha.
 
Maybe man and woman were in a different or hybrid form of a physical and spiritual nature at the time? *shrugs*
 
I'm trying to picture a world without klutzes. Without stubbing my toe or walking into hedges or falling over...
That'd be uh-maze-ing.
 
I don't think of bodily waste as morbid. Usually morbid revolves around death doesn't it?

But, again, the concept of 'bodily waste' goes against the perfection of original man. Or any waste. Man eats, he takes the 'good' parts and discards the 'bad/useless' parts is in and of itself an implied imperfection. The perfect foods we ate should have no waste. And our perfect bodies should be able to fully digest and utilize these perfect foods. A total compatibility.
Same with the animals, who were also, then, in their perfected state. Not eating one another, for example.

Also such bodily waste indicates at sickness and disease, which before sin, there would have been none.

From a logical standpoint such things could not have existed in perfection. But, then again, God isn't always logical. haha.

Interesting thought. But our bodies were created to expel waste, so we must assume that they were always intended to do so. They were created to heal after cuts and accidents as well, which makes me think even more about "accidents" and whether there might have been common accidents even in a perfect world.
 
Sometimes I wonder if our imagined view of "perfection" looks anything like God's. I bet it's actually pretty different.
 
well, I don't know about the pre-Fall, but lately I shared my "theory" which my kids totally buy:

as the animals were lined up two by two to get in the boat, the last in line were housecats, unicorns, manticores, assorted dragons and other legendary creatures.

When it came the cats' turn to hop on board, they got in...then out...then in...then out...when the rains came and they saw the doors beginning to slam shut, they hopped aboard, screwing over all the creatures behind them in the process.
 
Well, God gave man dominion on a perfect world before the fall. Man was in the image and likeness of God, having dominion over a perfect world. Dominion over everything, including death, accidents, whatever we can think of due to the fall. There was no accidental of whatsoever, thus perfection. Being in the image and likeness of God, man was the earthly bodily image and likeness of our heavenly Father Himself.