Ridiculous.
I pray to God that no one else here ends up where you are.
You sound a little like the critics of Jesus, when he was on earth, preaching the same doctrine as myself.
Ridiculous.
I pray to God that no one else here ends up where you are.
You're the one denyng the scriptures, Forest.Most of God's well intended children, as yourself, deny the scriptures,
What I am relying on is my faith in Jesus Christ.by holding onto the old law of works to get them to heaven.
Stop trying to spin it. The Bible is clear, in 1 Tim 2:4; 2 Pet 3:9; Acts 17:30; Eze 33:11; and more that God wants everyone to repent and become saved.Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to charge some in the church that they teach no other doctrine.
The "we" in 1 Tim 2:2, has reference to the church at Ephesus. Timothy even includes himself in telling them to pray for all men in authority over them that the church may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
The "all men" in verse 4, has reference to those men, in the church at Ephesus, who are teaching another doctrine (probably the old law of works), so that they might be saved (delivered) from their ignorance of the gospel. There is a deliverance (salvation here in time) when a born again child of God comes unto a knowledge of the truth.
The letters you have put in red, has reference to those in the church at Ephesus who are teaching another doctrine.
Jesus Christ did not preach what you preach. He did not teach Calvinism.You sound a little like the critics of Jesus, when he was on earth, preaching the same doctrine as myself.
We are born into a fallen world, as enemies of God and hostile in our minds towards Him.Because God knew that all of mankind would fall, is the reason he choose most of them not to fall.
Yes, they probably were teaching some of the same doctrines that you are.You sound a little like the critics of Jesus, when he was on earth, preaching the same doctrine as myself.
1 Timothy 2:4 suggests otherwise.Yes, but that is not one of God's desires.
Mat 7:14 the MAJORITY doesn't make it.Because God knew that all of mankind would fall, is the reason he choose most of them not to fall.
You're the one denyng the scriptures, Forest.
What I am relying on is my faith in Jesus Christ.
Stop trying to spin it. The Bible is clear, in 1 Tim 2:4; 2 Pet 3:9; Acts 17:30; Eze 33:11; and more that God wants everyone to repent and become saved.
Jesus Christ did not preach what you preach. He did not teach Calvinism.
We are born into a fallen world, as enemies of God and hostile in our minds towards Him.
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Colossians 1:21-22
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Mat 7:14 the MAJORITY doesn't make it.
Not the way it works.Because God knew that all of mankind would fall, is the reason he choose most of them not to fall.
Not the way it works.
After The Fall, God gave His only begotten so that all could chose to believe in His Son unto eternal life. That is the simple Gospel, and the False teaching of another false Gospel (yours) should not be tolerated here on CC.
Even though Christ said that He came TO SAVE THE WORLD these Calvinists will not quit with their false Gospel. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:17)After The Fall, God gave His only begotten so that all could chose to believe in His Son unto eternal life. That is the simple Gospel, and the False teaching of another false Gospel (yours) should not be tolerated here on CC.
It is God that you ought to fear. By comparing yourself to Christ you only lengthen your list of blasphemies.What do you suggest? That they crucify me? I have heard of someone else that was crucified for the same reason.
Let's suppose I am going on a trip. I make all the arrangements, set a date, and wait. But I also would like it to be a family excursion. I desire their company.
Is it considered a desire if I only have a strong feeling of wanting? Do I need to do anything to make my desire a desire? If I volunteer to incur all the expenses for my family does this make it a desire when before it wasn't? What if I only volunteered to pay for some family members? Does this affect whether it is a desire or lessen the desire to have the company of my family?
I ask these questions so they will be top of mind when asking the same questions about God's desire that all people are saved? Can God's desire for the salvation of people be independent of people? Does God have to do anything for people in order for His desire to be genuine? If so, does He have to act equally towards all people for His desire to be real?
I'm not attempting to offer this as proof of one set of ideas over another. It is simply to understand the nature of what is entailed in a desire and what is not. Consequently, and perhaps impossibly, I am asking for unbiased thought. I am asking that as you consider the question, you set aside, as much as is possible, how you would answer based on your other held beliefs, and consider the question independently from other doctrine.
Thanks. And I look forward to your responses.
I agree. But I'm only asking about His desire that all be saved. Is this a real desire? And if so, is God required to act upon it for it to be genuine?
Thanks for sharing. I don't disagree. The question, however, is must He act upon His desire?It is either genuine or not genuine.. Since the scriptures declare that God is open to everyone being saved then if we have faith in God we must trust Him on His Word..
What ever steps God now takes to allow people to be saved then we who trust Him believe He will be just in what ever He decides to do in regard to providing that avenue for all people to be saved...
1 Timothy 2:4 suggests otherwise.
He already did. He sent Jesus Christ, and through him salvation is available to anyone.Thanks for sharing. I don't disagree. The question, however, is must He act upon His desire?