Anointed Christ is, and we are invited to join in and participate and receive this by belief, not works. Works do come afterwards as a response in thankfulness and praises, not in creating anymore as we once did, you think?
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To be saved by grace means to be saved by God because He favors us. That doesn't mean that one has no part in being saved it simply means that we can be saved because God favors us.
And ultimately, would this not be between God and you, first and foremost the most important of all, even if flesh comes to complain as they did in Acts 6, and things started to go catty-wampum, out of God's order, and tricked into man's way taht is divided and can't stand, maybe something to think about? Man has taken his claws and laid it all over truth has man not?
Good question....
[h=3]James 1:21-24[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
Thank you, and why? Who knows, but God, and I am thankful for that, as I see you are also, thank you Jesus Christ, for the provision, For i know I can't do it and need you in my steads to do what you need done to and for all, thank you
Are you the author of confusion why can't you say plainly if you agree or not it seems as though you are riding on the edge agreeing yet disagreeing not sure of yourself. It is almost impossible to make a connection between my post and your response. Do you wish to elaborate on your response to my post?
So yes, receive the engrafted word, where is the engrafted word of full truth at, what is it?
Could this be it, below:
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:4
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4 [/SUP]Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,[/h]
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:5
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5 [/SUP]doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;[/h]
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:6
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6 [/SUP]rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;[/h]
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:7
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7 [/SUP]beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.[/h]
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:8[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
okay, so now if "I" my "I" gets in the way, "I" fail this test and do not see the engrafted word do I? Maybe you all as well, I can't speak for anyone else, I am only speaking for what God has shown me what God's engrafted, Imputed righteousness is and what is not?
So you all decide, thank you for listening, knowing in your own hearts error from truth, and learn by our mistakes to walk in truth over error, as we continue on here in this world for now, by Faith in Christ alone to Father for me anyway
here it is again agreeing yet disagreeing what is it you cannot do?
Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Read this passage carefully, your I should be dead to begin with or you should be killing him daily
2 Pet 1
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
[SUP]3 [/SUP]According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
The whole Idea of coming to Christ is because of repentance
Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? (Believe is an action word repentance is an act of belief) So you think it is a mind thing No when we believe, we will turn from our wicked ways and serve the living God(repent) vs 10 believeth unto righteousness
re·pent
verb \ri-ˈpent\ : to feel or show that you are sorry for something bad or wrong that you did and that you want to do what is right
Full Definition of REPENT
intransitive verb
1
: to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life
2
a : to feel regret or contrition
b : to change one's mind
righ·teous
adjective \ˈrī-chəs\ : morally good : following religious or moral laws
: caused by something that you believe is not morally right or fair
Full Definition of RIGHTEOUS
1
: acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin
2
a : morally right or justifiable <a righteous decision>
b : arising from an outraged sense of justice or morality <righteous indignation>
And ultimately, would this not be between God and you, first and foremost the most important of all, even if flesh comes to complain as they did in Acts 6, and things started to go catty-wampum, out of God's order, and tricked into man's way taht is divided and can't stand, maybe something to think about? Man has taken his claws and laid it all over truth has man not?
Not sure what you are misreading, but surely there is on your part confusion as to what you think I am posting or not posting?
It was just in addition to your post, or do yuo just plain and simply not see the fight that still goes on today, in and of flesh carnal nature of one's mind that needs renewed in Spirit and truth daily?
Do you not see this fight that started in Acts 6, and the apostles gave into it? Flesh complaining, not rained enough, rained too much.
Okay Lord you delivered us now what, I need. I need, likes
Do we Brother need likes and things of that sort from others? When we have
[h=3]Ephesians 1:6[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]to the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Do we Brother even though I approve of your post, who am "I" to approve?
But a servant a bond servant of Christ.
So what has got you in a flare Brother, do you need approval? I really do not think you do, since you are accepted in the beloved do you?
Or am I just reading you wrong?
I want fellowship and the right to speak as you do also, Can we get along and let each others iron sharpen each other in Spirit and truth?
Unfortunately you are misreadeing what is said in the posts I state about.
the post from me and you do they conflict? I do not see them conflicting, and do you? If so please straighten me out?
Is it not through death one sees the light, death to self?
[h=3]Philippians 3:10[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
[h=3]Philippians 3:11[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
So do we put confidence in self flesh or god alone to install, engraft, impute thios new life in 1 cor 13:4-13
Philippians 3:3
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Just saying and see no contradiction, do you?
While that may sound very nice and comfortable but you posted no scripture to support it
so I will post none.
Now I ask you, If I hired you to do a job you sign a contract where you get all your payments cash up front including gratuity and severance and under any circumstance it cannot be taken back.1. What guarantee do I have you will do the job. 2.What kind of person will you think I am?
Did you read the scripture to give a response or to see how it applies to you? To answer your question. You see the light through faith in the word You have to bring death to self...
Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
everything in 1 cor 13:4-13 is found in the power of his resurrection ..I am telling you if you are in Christ you have no business talking about confidence in self. Unless your faith is in vain. God gave you the power to do it ...What is hindering you. You think he must come and do it for you .Who is the servant and who is the master. Obey the master ...receive your sight and rise up and walk...God bless
Originally Posted by newbirth
The whole Idea of coming to Christ is because of repentance
Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? (Believe is an action word repentance is an act of belief) So you think it is a mind thing No when we believe, we will turn from our wicked ways and serve the living God(repent) vs 10 believeth unto righteousness
re·pent
verb \ri-ˈpent\ : to feel or show that you are sorry for something bad or wrong that you did and that you want to do what is right
Full Definition of REPENT
intransitive verb
1
: to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life
2
a : to feel regret or contrition
b : to change one's mind
righ·teous
adjective \ˈrī-chəs\ : morally good : following religious or moral laws
: caused by something that you believe is not morally right or fair
Full Definition of RIGHTEOUS
1
: acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin
2
a : morally right or justifiable <a righteous decision>
b : arising from an outraged sense of justice or morality <righteous indignation>
And ultimately, would this not be between God and you, first and foremost the most important of all, even if flesh comes to complain as they did in Acts 6, and things started to go catty-wampum, out of God's order, and tricked into man's way taht is divided and can't stand, maybe something to think about? Man has taken his claws and laid it all over truth has man not?
Not sure what you are misreading, but surely there is on your part confusion as to what you think I am posting or not posting?
It was just in addition to your post, or do yuo just plain and simply not see the fight that still goes on today, in and of flesh carnal nature of one's mind that needs renewed in Spirit and truth daily?
Do you not see this fight that started in Acts 6, and the apostles gave into it? Flesh complaining, not rained enough, rained too much.
Okay Lord you delivered us now what, I need. I need, likes
Do we Brother need likes and things of that sort from others? When we have
Ephesians 1:6
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]to the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Do we Brother even though I approve of your post, who am "I" to approve?
But a servant a bond servant of Christ.
So what has got you in a flare Brother, do you need approval? I really do not think you do, since you are accepted in the beloved do you?
Or am I just reading you wrong?
I want fellowship and the right to speak as you do also, Can we get along and let each others iron sharpen each other in Spirit and truth?
yes brothet just as I need God's approval I need your approval how else can we have unity in the faith. If God say yea ,you say yea and I say yea we have unity. You don't have to agree with me, I don't have to agree with you but we all have to agree with God. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.On some things we agree on others we don't . This is where we allow the word to be what we agree to. We do not twist God's word to suit our doctrine.We do not add or take away from God's word. And we always obey God's word.
In the beginning, it is the Lord's forgiveness that saves us. However, he expects us to learn from our mistakes and repent. Paul tells us how we have to work out our own salvation (Phil 2:12-13) and Jesus tells us to repent (Matt 4:17).
No sir. Repent means to be sorry for and to turn the other way from, whatever you are sorry for. I was just responding to the scripture verse that was being used.
The scripture that was used was, "Repent ye, and believe the Gospel' (Mark 1.15).
It means, to turn from doubting the gospel to believing it. It is not saying to repent of your dead works and believe the gospel. The problem with repentance to receive salvation, is that it would negate or supersede all the other verses that say contrary.
Sir, is it necessary for me to remind you to whom this epistle was written to? It was not to the unbeliever, but to the church.
Repentance from dead works is for the church of Christ, not for the unbelievers. They don't know the half of what they do as sin.
I don't mean this sarcastically, but read the scriptures, the only requirement for salvation is, faith in Christ. Repentance from sins committed have been omitted in all the verses that speak of salvation. The only repentance needed for the unbeliever is from doubting to believing.
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
These are just a few verses that failed to mention to the unbeliever to repent of their sins first, so that they can be saved. These and other verses like it, are either the truth, as is, or they are half of the truth, which is the same as a lie, for it would be deceptive.
