What does to believe in/on Christ mean to you?

[Blik]

There is a difference between striving not to sin yet still occasionally stumbling and actually living a sinless perfect life 100% of the time.

On this we agree, yippee. No one lives a perfect sinless life and we are not to kid ourselves into thinking we do.

When I am accused of thinking I am perfect it is like being whipped for something I have not even thought of doing, it seems horribly unjust.

 

[Blik]

Grow up, Blik.

Christian adult response to someone you think is wrong goes something like this: "I think you are wrong because.........." It is childish to respond by chanting insults to the person you disagree with.

 

[Dino246]

Christian adult response to someone you think is wrong goes something like this: "I think you are wrong because.........." It is childish to respond by chanting insults to the person you disagree with.

So let's see whose post better fits your description:

The OT Law prescribed that, for certain practices, a hyssop branch be "dipped in the blood" and the blood sprinkled or spread on certain surfaces. There is, however, no mention in Scripture of the word of God being dipped in the blood as MoTC asserts, in a parable or otherwise. It's a pseudo-biblical concept only.

And from the mouth of the almighty Dino, a pseudo-bible concept must never be compared to a parable.

 

[Blik]

So let's see whose post better fits your description:

You go ahead with this "I am better that YOU are" post", but count me out. If you want to convince yourself of your superiority, be my guest.

 

[Blain]

We are all aware of the scriptures that to believe in/on Christ leads to salvation through Gods grace, so maybe we should have some views of what faith in Christ actually means. Once we attain an understanding of what faith in Christ truly represents, we will then also be able to ascertain a more accurate understanding of what Antichrist represents.

For me it means home, it means being taken out of the cold being in the world alone and having no one in my life to understand and be there for me. For me it is to fall head over heels for him over and over again to bask in the beauty and wonder of his arms protected loved adored and deeply cherished knowing for once in my life I am more than good enough I am loved and treasured beyond all measure just for who I am not what I am not or what I need to be but as I am

 

[bud62]

That's not faith in the Lord Jesus.

That's faith in you departing from sin.

Remember what you said about Anti-Christ taking the place of God???


It is the Lord Jesus that gives us the Spirit that causes us to depart from sin. It is not our will or strength or understanding.


Believing in Christ means we abide in Him and trust in His Workmanship receiving Rest. Faith in Christ means we no longer work towards our own Righteousness, which is in the Law. Rather, we share what we have been given in Christ.

Galatians 2:21

THE sacrificial LAWS IS ALL THAT WAS DONE AWAY WITH, THE Handwriting OF Moses AND then just the ones that was AGAINST US, COLOSSIANS 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
THE TEN COMMANDMEN LAWS THAT YESUAH WROTE WITH HIS OWN FINGER, AND ON OUR HEARTS IS OUR DUTY AND OUR COVENTANT WITH GOD.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Could you provide some Biblical reference to "dipped in THE BLOOD".

Luke 22:19-22, Exodus 24:6-8, Hebrews 10:7, 1 Corinthians 1:18, 1 Corinthians 1:23, 1 Corinthians 2:2, Proverbs 8:8, etc.

If the Word of God is not dipped in the Blood of God, that points us to the One who said, “that the Volume of the Book is written about Me (Hebrews 10:7),”which is Jesus Christ and Him Crucified, then you are not hearing the Gospel in its Righteous context that is revealed from faith to faith, that allows us to be Servants of Righteousness (if Faith is maintained in the Cross). Exodus 24: 6-8, Romans 1:16-17, Romans 6:18

No one is walking with God outside of Faith in the Cross.

Every Word in the Bible must be dipped in the Blood (Exodus 24:6-8, John 1:29, Hebrews 10:7).

The Light only shines through the Blood of Jesus. Revelations 21:23 says that the Lamb is the Light.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Anything that is not a focus on Christ and His Work at Calvary is eating away the life we have been given. It is distracting and hindering where we need to be.

The Apostle Paul tells Timothy to shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as does a canker (gangrene/cancer - spiritually speaking - 2 Tim. 2:16-17). He also said in verse 14, “Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit (Gal. 5:2), but to the subverting of the hearers.” In other words, it ruins the hearer.

We were saved by grace through faith and we live by grace through faith. That faith must be in Christ and Him Crucified or it is a dead faith that is eating as does gangrene and cancer! Be not deceived.

 

[Blik]

Anything that is not a focus on Christ and His Work at Calvary is eating away the life we have been given. It is distracting and hindering where we need to be.

The Apostle Paul tells Timothy to shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as does a canker (gangrene/cancer - spiritually speaking - 2 Tim. 2:16-17). He also said in verse 14, “Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit (Gal. 5:2), but to the subverting of the hearers.” In other words, it ruins the hearer.

We were saved by grace through faith and we live by grace through faith. That faith must be in Christ and Him Crucified or it is a dead faith that is eating as does gangrene and cancer! Be not deceived.

Our salvation through Christ is the first step in our walk with the Lord. Our life begns with this, but if we stop there we stay babies and never grow up.

Imagine living without knowing of the fruits of the spirit, or living without knowing God how God wants us to direct our thoughts as we are told in Phil. 4:8.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

but if we stop there we stay babies and never grow up.

If we don’t enter into sanctification we remove ourselves from Him. Gal. 1:6, Matthew 10:38

 

[luigi]

I am loved and treasured beyond all measure just for who I am not what I am not or what I need to be but as I am

The ones whom the Lord loves today and forever, though they may still sin today, are they who do eventually repent and overcome their sins. They who do not overcome their carnal sins in effect choose the flesh over the Spirit, and are therefore not pleasing to God, nor can they be (Romans 8:7-8).

Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

 

[luigi]

to be Servants of Righteousness (if Faith is maintained in the Cross).

To be a servant of righteousness and have faith in the cross, you have to believe in the Spirit, with acts of the Spirit. If, however, you believe in the flesh with acts of the flesh, you then are not a servant of righteousness with faith in enduring unjustness upon yourself for your faith in what is right spiritually.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

To be a servant of righteousness and have faith in the cross, you have to believe in the Spirit, with acts of the Spirit. If, however, you believe in the flesh with acts of the flesh, you then are not a servant of righteousness with faith in enduring unjustness upon yourself for your faith in what is right spiritually.

“18 Being then made free from sin (being made free from the sin nature; it has no more power over the Believer, but only as we continue to look to the Cross), you became the servants of Righteousness (whereas you were formerly a slave to the sin nature, you are now a slave to Righteousness; if Faith is maintained in the Cross, there is a constant pull of the Believer toward Righteousness).” Romans 6

JSM

 

[luigi]

“18 Being then made free from sin (being made free from the sin nature; it has no more power over the Believer, but only as we continue to look to the Cross), you became the servants of Righteousness (whereas you were formerly a slave to the sin nature, you are now a slave to Righteousness; if Faith is maintained in the Cross, there is a constant pull of the Believer toward Righteousness).” Romans 6

JSM

Being made free from sin, means we who believe in Christ are no longer bound to committing sin, if we so choose. Prior to believing in Christ, I was bound to continue in my carnal sins, despite my hating my sins and wishing to leave them. We therefore need to choose to not sin, thus overcoming our sins, so that the new spiritual creature may be acceptable to God.

 

[Grandpa]

THE sacrificial LAWS IS ALL THAT WAS DONE AWAY WITH, THE Handwriting OF Moses AND then just the ones that was AGAINST US, COLOSSIANS 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
THE TEN COMMANDMEN LAWS THAT YESUAH WROTE WITH HIS OWN FINGER, AND ON OUR HEARTS IS OUR DUTY AND OUR COVENTANT WITH GOD.

So the Lord mis-spoke when He said not one Jot or one Tittle would fall from the Law until ALL was fulfilled?

Interesting theology to contradict Christ. Do you consider yourself Jewish or Christian?

 

[Blik]

So the Lord mis-spoke when He said not one Jot or one Tittle would fall from the Law until ALL was fulfilled?

Interesting theology to contradict Christ. Do you consider yourself Jewish or Christian?

I don't believe everything that we are told of Christ has been fulfilled, for Christ will come again. To accuse of contradicting Christ is a serious offense on your part as an accuser, if you are by any chance not correct.

 

[Grandpa]

I don't believe everything that we are told of Christ has been fulfilled, for Christ will come again. To accuse of contradicting Christ is a serious offense on your part as an accuser, if you are by any chance not correct.

It is not a difficult concept.

Not one Jot or tittle will fall from the law until ALL is fulfilled.

If even one jot or tittle HAS fallen from the law then ALL HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

Any questions?

 

[Blain]

The ones whom the Lord loves today and forever, though they may still sin today, are they who do eventually repent and overcome their sins. They who do not overcome their carnal sins in effect choose the flesh over the Spirit, and are therefore not pleasing to God, nor can they be (Romans 8:7-8).

Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

You know there are certain sins I am very weak to and for years I tried so hard to overcome them I begged God to help me I prayed for strength and freedom from them but it never came and couldn't understand why I was bombarded with inner pain and guilt so much so that my heart constantly felt like a dagger was pericing it and twisting the blade I am far to easily wounded by my own self beatings and trust me I beat myself a lot I am very prone to attack myself if I sin I don't know the meaning of grace I will relentlessly attack myself I will make sure I feel the pain and will bleed out if I have to trust me my sins are not off my radar if anything I am far to harsh on myself for them

But I want to give life to others I want to strengthen and encourage other I want people to know the love and life I have come to know in him the warmpth of his embrace of freedom from the cold of ourselves and of the world but the enemy has been relentless this year in attacking me and if it wasn't for lafftur I would have destroyed myself I would have attacked myself for my failings and my sins and everything I am not yet everything I treasure and value that is him because trust me I am all to aware of my sins and my weakness of everything I am lacking in him in everything I wish I could be of everything he is and that I am not but just as father turns everything bad into our good he uses everything that is good for our bad.

If it wasn't for lafftur I would have never understood tthe power of his blood the depth of love and the intensity of his grace, I was imprisoned withing chains and locks of my own doing because I didn't understand this you cannot imagine the pain inside that I went through if there was hell on earth if there was a true fear I ever had it was that I wasn't good enough that my weakness to temptation was my undoing that I could never hold him in my arms and our hearts would finally be together as one. But Laffture kept encouraging me she kept being there for me and because of this God used her to show me the true nature of a child of God with the beloved and loving father and the what Jesus truly did.

Out of everything I said you picked apart and tried to make it about sin and overcoming sin when all I did was express how much he means to me but what fills me with rage is what you could and may even do to others from your clear miss of the entire point of the post, do you know how many believers struggle with sin and constantly pray for mercy? Do you have any idea how many damaged souls there are who don't have the support I had? Do you have any clue how many struggle with fear of their sins with fear of their very being and salvation? how many try so hard to be what they are told to be and yet no matter how much they try they cannot make the cut?

I found healing and I found rest because I finall;;y accepted I am more than good enough to him he sees us as we are not as we were or what we are supposed to be and honestly how dare you use scripture to make it say what you want it to say scripture the holy word of God it is sacred holy righteous and abundant with love light and power it is not a toy for you to use for own personal reasons and you cannot damage me because I had someone to help me learn this lesson but if you are to be on a forum then you cannot underestimate the power words have and if you damage even one heart who is suffering from all this doctrine of sin I assure you I will not hold back it takes a lot for me to get angry and normally I don't trust myself with anger but just know for the protection of others there is a monster inside me that even I am scared of

 

[Blain]

It is not a difficult concept.

Not one Jot or tittle will fall from the law until ALL is fulfilled.

If even one jot or tittle HAS fallen from the law then ALL HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

Any questions?

Yes are we under the law or are we under grace? The law does have it's joy but none have been able to fulfill the law except he who was perfect so tell me is his yoke heavy or is it light ?

 

[luigi]

You know there are certain sins I am very weak to and for years I tried so hard to overcome them I begged God to help me I prayed for strength and freedom from them but it never came and couldn't understand why I was bombarded with inner pain and guilt so much so that my heart constantly felt like a dagger was pericing it and twisting the blade I am far to easily wounded by my own self beatings and trust me I beat myself a lot I am very prone to attack myself if I sin I don't know the meaning of grace I will relentlessly attack myself I will make sure I feel the pain and will bleed out if I have to trust me my sins are not off my radar if anything I am far to harsh on myself for them

I also continue to have sins I need to overcome. And I also like yourself am contrite when I sin. The Lord looks favorably on those of us who are contrite in Spirit brother.

Psalm 34:18 The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.