What's your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing everything right?

[ZNP]

The more you write, the more confusing you become. You wrote—- (That doesn't mean there is no one to accuse and prosecute them. That is Satan's job, not mine.). So being a lawyer/ prosecutor is satan’s job?? Wow!

Yes, Satan is the accuser of the brethren, you didn't know that? The Holy Spirit is our advocate, our defense lawyer? Do you even know what the New Testament says?

This is what God states:
-13 Whoever rewards evil for good, Evil will not depart from his house.
-15 He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord.
-26 Also, to punish the righteous is not good, Nor to strike princes for their uprightness."
Proverbs 17:11, 13, 15, 26 NKJV

-"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on
themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute
wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing.
Romans 13:1-6 NKJV

Yes. God writes the laws, and we are held to each one of them.

Let's take the first one, suppose when you were twenty you rewarded evil for good. When you are twenty five you confess your sins, you repent and you receive Jesus Christ as your redeemer. His blood pays the penalty for that sin and you are washed clean. Now He may require you to make restitution, I don't know the details of how you repayed evil for good. But one of the promises of Jesus redeeming us is that the curse of the law is also broken. That curse of evil not departing from your house can be broken if you are obedient to the Lord to do as He says concerning this matter.

Who is justifying the wicked? Who is condemning the just? I have said I am not in a position to justify or condemn anyone that is being discussed by you and even you have admitted that neither are you. I am not saying that if you are in the UN you shouldn't do your job. I am not saying that if you are in the DOJ you shouldn't do your job. What I am saying is that my job as a Christian is to be a witness of the Lord.

Yes, there are governing authorities appointed by God and that includes Satan. He has not yet been kicked out of heaven, that occurs when the Manchild is caught up to heaven. Yes, his job is to be the accuser of the brethren, but not only so, he will accuse any and every human being of sin. Satan hooks people by their sins. The Holy Spirit is our advocate, our defense lawyer. I am not the defense lawyer and I am not the prosecuting attorney and I am not the judge. In my trial I am the defendant. In other trials I am a witness. I have been told by the Lord Jesus specifically that since He has forgiven me I should forgive others. So even if Satan calls me as a witness for the prosecution concerning another persons sins my testimony is that I forgive them. Whatever sins that have been perpetrated against me including your slanderous post is trivial concerning the price the Lord paid for my eternal salvation. Jesus showed me mercy so I am very thankful for any opportunity I have to show others mercy.

 

[HigherGospel]

What's your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing everything right?

They'll be doing everything right as soon as they kill ALL of the Hamas followers.

Israel has the right to defend themselves from moslems who have been attacking them for centuries, who are always threatening to kill all the Jews... the Lord has gifted Israel the opportunity to have the upper hand against her enemies now as it should be.

My take is that only God can sort all this out.

He is sorting it out right now by giving Israel the upper hand against the moslems

That said, the Bible talks about Gaza becoming like chaff in the wind and that is what we see here, and the context is that this takes place to signal that the Day of the Lord is at hand (ie about to take place) and it is a warning to the rest of the world to repent. The correct attitude is not to try and say who sinned Israel, Hamas, this person or that person. The correct attitude is to examine yourself. Of course if you are a UN investigator looking into war crimes then your job is different from the rest of us. But anyone who does not realize the media is being used to manipulate people is simply naive.

Before Israel was able to return to the land they had to go through the Holocaust. World War 2 was a precursor to World War 3. A third of the Jews died in the holocaust and a third of humanity will die during the seven year tribulation known as the greatest tribulation in human history. Gaza is a warning to the whole world that God is not playing around. I'm not saying God did this, but He did allow it to happen and without him removing His hedge of protection it never could have happened.

You forgot to include scripture references for all this.

Israel and the U.S. could have finished things. The claimed they knew where the Iranian leader was hiding. But chose not to end things.

That's because Trump wants to make a deal since he is ignorant of how moslems operate.

If Trump was not so ignorant concerning the moslems, then he would have taken care of this when he had opportunity

If you look real hard you may see that your country is occupied as well.

What country would that be???

my gene-sister (who's a pastor)

The Lord never authorized any women to be pastors

 

[TruthDefender]

Yes, Satan is the accuser of the brethren, you didn't know that? The Holy Spirit is our advocate, our defense lawyer? Do you even know what the New Testament says?



Yes. God writes the laws, and we are held to each one of them.

Let's take the first one, suppose when you were twenty you rewarded evil for good. When you are twenty five you confess your sins, you repent and you receive Jesus Christ as your redeemer. His blood pays the penalty for that sin and you are washed clean. Now He may require you to make restitution, I don't know the details of how you repayed evil for good. But one of the promises of Jesus redeeming us is that the curse of the law is also broken. That curse of evil not departing from your house can be broken if you are obedient to the Lord to do as He says concerning this matter.

Who is justifying the wicked? Who is condemning the just? I have said I am not in a position to justify or condemn anyone that is being discussed by you and even you have admitted that neither are you. I am not saying that if you are in the UN you shouldn't do your job. I am not saying that if you are in the DOJ you shouldn't do your job. What I am saying is that my job as a Christian is to be a witness of the Lord.

Yes, there are governing authorities appointed by God and that includes Satan. He has not yet been kicked out of heaven, that occurs when the Manchild is caught up to heaven. Yes, his job is to be the accuser of the brethren, but not only so, he will accuse any and every human being of sin. Satan hooks people by their sins. The Holy Spirit is our advocate, our defense lawyer. I am not the defense lawyer and I am not the prosecuting attorney and I am not the judge. In my trial I am the defendant. In other trials I am a witness. I have been told by the Lord Jesus specifically that since He has forgiven me I should forgive others. So even if Satan calls me as a witness for the prosecution concerning another persons sins my testimony is that I forgive them. Whatever sins that have been perpetrated against me including your slanderous post is trivial concerning the price the Lord paid for my eternal salvation. Jesus showed me mercy so I am very thankful for any opportunity I have to show others mercy.

That’s a lot words with no Scripture, and I can tell you right now that a lot of what you said is incorrect.

 

[ZNP]

That’s a lot words with no Scripture, and I can tell you right now that a lot of what you said is incorrect.

• Psalms 82:1: States, "God presides over the heavenly court; he renders judgment among the divine beings". This is a clear example of God acting as a judge over spiritual entities.

It is also translated as "the congregation of the mighty". You could see that as a UN assembly or as a judge in a courtroom.

• Daniel 7:9-10: Describes a grand heavenly scene with the "Ancient of Days" (God) seated on a fiery throne, with "thousand thousands" ministering to Him. It explicitly says, "The court was seated, and the books were opened".

Any Jewish person is familiar with the Day of Atonement. Each year the books are opened and God judges.

• Hebrews 12:22-24: Refers to arriving at Mount Zion, the heavenly city, to "the spirits of the righteous made perfect," and the "general assembly and church of the firstborn". This passage also identifies Jesus as an "advocate" in these heavenly proceedings.

Hebrews 12:23 says that God is the judge of all. Verse 24 says that Jesus is the mediator of a the new covenant. A mediator is involved in the legal negotiations involved in making a covenant. A covenant is a legally binding contract.

• Job 1-2: In this narrative, Satan appears before God in a heavenly gathering to challenge Job's righteousness, which is often interpreted as a form of legal proceeding or a "court" where Satan gains permission to test Job.

1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus Christ is our advocate with the Father. The word "advocate" refers to legal representation of a defense counselor.

Revelation 12:10 tells us that Satan is the accuser of the brethren and that he is cast down after the Manchild is caught up. According to Vine's word study this word means to accuse someone before a judge, just like a prosecuting attorney would. It is used when Jesus was accused by the religious leaders to Pontius Pilate Matt 27:12 and Mark 15:3

 

[HeIsHere]

What country would that be???

The country where that person lives, the one to whom I replied.

 

[ZNP]

You forgot to include scripture references for all this.

For those of you who missed this the first time I posted it a few days ago (October 1):

God's judgment on Gaza

Zephaniah 2:1 Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired; 2 Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the Lord come upon you, before the day of the Lord's anger come upon you. 3 Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord's anger. 4 For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. 5 Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the Lord is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant.

Amos 1:6 Thus saith the Lord; For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they carried away captive the whole captivity, to deliver them up to Edom: 7 But I will send a fire on the wall of Gaza, which shall devour the palaces thereof: 8 And I will cut off the inhabitant from Ashdod, and him that holdeth the sceptre from Ashkelon, and I will turn mine hand against Ekron: and the remnant of the Philistines shall perish, saith the Lord God.

Psalm 83 describes the confederacy that we saw against Israel that began October 7, 2023. This includes everyone who attacked Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. Here is the conclusion of that Psalm

Psalm 83:13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. 14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. 16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord. 17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.

Jeremiah 47:1 The word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet against the Philistines, before that Pharaoh smote Gaza. 2 Thus saith the Lord; Behold, waters rise up out of the north, and shall be an overflowing flood, and shall overflow the land, and all that is therein; the city, and them that dwell therein: then the men shall cry, and all the inhabitants of the land shall howl. 3 At the noise of the stamping of the hoofs of his strong horses, at the rushing of his chariots, and at the rumbling of his wheels, the fathers shall not look back to their children for feebleness of hands; 4 Because of the day that cometh to spoil all the Philistines, and to cut off from Tyrus and Zidon every helper that remaineth: for the Lord will spoil the Philistines, the remnant of the country of Caphtor. 5 Baldness is come upon Gaza; Ashkelon is cut off with the remnant of their valley: how long wilt thou cut thyself? 6 O thou sword of the Lord, how long will it be ere thou be quiet? put up thyself into thy scabbard, rest, and be still. 7 How can it be quiet, seeing the Lord hath given it a charge against Ashkelon, and against the sea shore? there hath he appointed it.

Zechariah 9:5 Ashkelon shall see it, and fear; Gaza also shall see it, and be very sorrowful, and Ekron; for her expectation shall be ashamed; and the king shall perish from Gaza, and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited. 6 And a bastard shall dwell in Ashdod, and I will cut off the pride of the Philistines. 7 And I will take away his blood out of his mouth, and his abominations from between his teeth: but he that remaineth, even he, shall be for our God, and he shall be as a governor in Judah, and Ekron as a Jebusite. 8 And I will encamp about mine house because of the army, because of him that passeth by, and because of him that returneth: and no oppressor shall pass through them any more: for now have I seen with mine eyes.

 

[TruthDefender]

• Psalms 82:1: States, "God presides over the heavenly court; he renders judgment among the divine beings". This is a clear example of God acting as a judge over spiritual entities.

It is also translated as "the congregation of the mighty". You could see that as a UN assembly or as a judge in a courtroom.

• Daniel 7:9-10: Describes a grand heavenly scene with the "Ancient of Days" (God) seated on a fiery throne, with "thousand thousands" ministering to Him. It explicitly says, "The court was seated, and the books were opened".

Any Jewish person is familiar with the Day of Atonement. Each year the books are opened and God judges.

• Hebrews 12:22-24: Refers to arriving at Mount Zion, the heavenly city, to "the spirits of the righteous made perfect," and the "general assembly and church of the firstborn". This passage also identifies Jesus as an "advocate" in these heavenly proceedings.

Hebrews 12:23 says that God is the judge of all. Verse 24 says that Jesus is the mediator of a the new covenant. A mediator is involved in the legal negotiations involved in making a covenant. A covenant is a legally binding contract.

• Job 1-2: In this narrative, Satan appears before God in a heavenly gathering to challenge Job's righteousness, which is often interpreted as a form of legal proceeding or a "court" where Satan gains permission to test Job.

1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus Christ is our advocate with the Father. The word "advocate" refers to legal representation of a defense counselor.

Revelation 12:10 tells us that Satan is the accuser of the brethren and that he is cast down after the Manchild is caught up. According to Vine's word study this word means to accuse someone before a judge, just like a prosecuting attorney would. It is used when Jesus was accused by the religious leaders to Pontius Pilate Matt 27:12 and Mark 15:3

The UN is NOT the congregation of the mighty. Lol

-“Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12‬:‭28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

This verse above refers to the church.

And we have overcome Satan by Jesus’ blood, below.

“Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12‬:‭10‬-‭12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[ZNP]

The UN is NOT the congregation of the mighty. Lol

-“Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12‬:‭28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

This verse above refers to the church.

And we have overcome Satan by Jesus’ blood, below.

“Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12‬:‭10‬-‭12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

No one said that the UN is the congregation of the mighty referred to in Psalms, however, it is a shadow of such a congregation on earth and it has been established according to God's sovereignty and any authority it has comes from God.

Perhaps English is not your first language and you do not understand the use of the word as?

In analogies, "as" is used to make a direct comparison, often in the structure "A is to B as C is to D" to show a shared relationship or quality between two pairs. It functions similarly to "like" by highlighting similarities but can also be used to describe how something is done or to compare qualities using the structure "as + adjective/adverb + as".

 

[TruthDefender]

No one said that the UN is the congregation of the mighty referred to in Psalms, however, it is a shadow of such a congregation on earth and it has been established according to God's sovereignty and any authority it has comes from God.

Perhaps English is not your first language and you do not understand the use of the word as?

In analogies, "as" is used to make a direct comparison, often in the structure "A is to B as C is to D" to show a shared relationship or quality between two pairs. It functions similarly to "like" by highlighting similarities but can also be used to describe how something is done or to compare qualities using the structure "as + adjective/adverb + as".

Interesting! Don’t get me wrong, I’m not exactly agreeing… it’s just interesting.

 

[HigherGospel]

No one said that the UN is the congregation of the mighty referred to in Psalms, however, it is a shadow of such a congregation on earth and it has been established according to God's sovereignty and any authority it has comes from God.

satan perverts the authority God gives to rulers thru the UN and thru liberals in order to lead people to serve satan.

How long you been with the grammar police?