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pjharrison
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I don't know what to say, no one can understand the hair part of the scripture. I don't know any other way to explain it.
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pjharrison
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There is always a male. An uncle, brother, father brother in law, Friend.
Here is an example. If there was a lady at the store she was minding her own business. A strange man came over to her and started getting in her face, asking for her number and really coming on strong. All of a sudden her husband walks up , who is a Godly man. He looks the strange man in the eyes. The man looks into the husbands eyes and says nothing and turns and walk away.
The strange man had a lust demon. When the demon look into the Godly husbands eyes, he saw the spirit of God.
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pjharrison
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They can do whatever they want. If they start having to fight with demons because they are prophesying without a covering, nobody will have to tell them to stop. The demons are real, and invisible, we cant see them. We can hear them talk if they manifest inside someone's body. There are all kinds. They are out to steal kill and destroy.
Friends, uncles, and brothers-in-law have no spiritual authority in a woman's life. You're grasping at straws to hold on to your position.
The reality is that we are each covered by Christ.
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pjharrison
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Yes each covered as a representative glory of God not seen .Christ not seen represented by the uncovered head of man , woman covers man as the visual head and woman not left without a representative glory of her own, her hair must be cover it as if it was all one covering of veil anticipating the coming wedding consummation is heaven as a foreshadow of good things to come.
Scripture explicitly explains in ! Corinthians 11:10 saying, "For this reason..." and the general rule for pronoun antecedent agreement, as 'this' is used here, should refer to a clear noun (phrase) that agrees in number. Although it is easy to use a pronoun without a clear, unmistakable antecedent,
'this' along with reason' appears to be referring to the reality that woman came from man and that woman was created for man. So then, that 'a woman should have authority on her head" (while she prays and prophesies) might be explain in that what shows inherently in men, having been made in the image and glory of God, must needs be 'signified' in order to remind others (and angel, which probably fall at least a little short of the discernment of God) and most likely in particularly men, that she is not to be thought of as operating in any otherwise characteristic female design.
'this' along with reason' appears to be referring to the reality that woman came from man and that woman was created for man. So then, that 'a woman should have authority on her head" (while she prays and prophesies) might be explain in that what shows inherently in men, having been made in the image and glory of God, must needs be 'signified' in order to remind others (and angel, which probably fall at least a little short of the discernment of God) and most likely in particularly men, that she is not to be thought of as operating in any otherwise characteristic female design.
Darned, I missed my edit window....
In summary, women should wear head coverings because of the pervs and/or simply those irreverent do not think of the praying woman in any sense that might otherwise come 'naturally' to them as she is operating in the spirit.
In summary, women should wear head coverings because of the pervs and/or simply those irreverent do not think of the praying woman in any sense that might otherwise come 'naturally' to them as she is operating in the spirit.
"Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. "
"Thou hast forgiven the iniquity of thy people, thou hast covered all their sin. Selah "
Above are two verses which speak of those who are saved. They have their sins covered because Christ died for them, taking their sins upon himself. All believers who are saved are a 'woman' in Bible lingo, meaning they are set apart to be Christ's bride. This is true whether they are male or female. They are still a woman in that sense, which is simply parable language.
On the other hand, Christ is the 'man' in that relationship. Because he is without sin, he does not need his sins to be covered. In fact, calling him a sinner in need of a covering for his sins would be wrong. It would be like calling him a sinner in need of having his sins covered in order to talk to God or to share the gospel. Yet he is without sin and can do those things without a covering.
Praying and Prophesying (which is a word meaning to share the gospel) is for those who are in relationship with God correctly, meaning for those who are saved and who have their sins covered. They have been given God's spirit so they can call to their father and so they can share the gospel correctly. It is a shame for an unsaved person to do those things because they would not be in correct position with God, not having their sins covered, and not having his Spirit.
The woman came from the man, meaning Christ died on the cross and rose again so that true believers could come into being. Woman came from man in that sense.
Believers must have their sins covered because of the angels. The word angels means 'messengers'. The angels being spoken of are other believers who have the gospel. This is equivalent to saying a true believer must have their sins covered because of the gospel. The gospel speaks of a covenant that requires sins to be covered by the blood of Christ.
You can see a good relationship between Christ and the true believers as far as sins being covered in this verse:
"O GOD the Lord, the strength of my salvation, thou hast covered my head in the day of battle. "
"Thou hast forgiven the iniquity of thy people, thou hast covered all their sin. Selah "
Above are two verses which speak of those who are saved. They have their sins covered because Christ died for them, taking their sins upon himself. All believers who are saved are a 'woman' in Bible lingo, meaning they are set apart to be Christ's bride. This is true whether they are male or female. They are still a woman in that sense, which is simply parable language.
On the other hand, Christ is the 'man' in that relationship. Because he is without sin, he does not need his sins to be covered. In fact, calling him a sinner in need of a covering for his sins would be wrong. It would be like calling him a sinner in need of having his sins covered in order to talk to God or to share the gospel. Yet he is without sin and can do those things without a covering.
Praying and Prophesying (which is a word meaning to share the gospel) is for those who are in relationship with God correctly, meaning for those who are saved and who have their sins covered. They have been given God's spirit so they can call to their father and so they can share the gospel correctly. It is a shame for an unsaved person to do those things because they would not be in correct position with God, not having their sins covered, and not having his Spirit.
The woman came from the man, meaning Christ died on the cross and rose again so that true believers could come into being. Woman came from man in that sense.
Believers must have their sins covered because of the angels. The word angels means 'messengers'. The angels being spoken of are other believers who have the gospel. This is equivalent to saying a true believer must have their sins covered because of the gospel. The gospel speaks of a covenant that requires sins to be covered by the blood of Christ.
You can see a good relationship between Christ and the true believers as far as sins being covered in this verse:
"O GOD the Lord, the strength of my salvation, thou hast covered my head in the day of battle. "
Wondering why American Christians do not do this?
In some countries the Christian women do cover their heads while praying and prophesying. And in America here a few obscure sects and groups follow this teaching, but most of the church ignores it. Why?
1Co 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
The covering is speaking of hair on a man and a woman.
1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
If a man has long hair it is a shame unto him, and what did they do in the counterculture movement that was against authority, they grew their hair long.
1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
The man should cut his hair, for he ought not to cover his head, for he is in the image of God.
Jesus came in the image of God, so the man Christ Jesus would of had short hair.
And for people who would say Samson had long hair, but he was not in the image of God, for nobody was in the image of God after Adam and Eve fell until Jesus came.
Even nature teaches that a man should not have long hair, the way that God created the world to operate, the natural realm.
1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
Men should have short hair, and should cut it if it gets too long, and a woman should have long hair, and if she cuts it, even an inch, it is the same as if she is shaven.
God wants a distinction between a man and a woman according to their hair, and some might have a hard time with that for they do not understand, but God has a reason, and that is because the man is the head of the woman, although the woman is equal to a man in the Lord, which this pertains to the Church, the preacher, not the saints in general.
1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
Women should have uncut hair because of the angels, for the angels are last in the authority structure of God on earth, and they are ministering spirits, but creation was all for people.
The Bible plainly states that the covering is hair, and not a cloth..
And I am not making this a salvation issue, but it is plain that the covering is hair, which cannot be ignored, why, because the Bible says it is hair.
It is strange that they came up with cloth as if nobody read the chapter far enough.
It is like Paul stating having food, and clothing, be content, and if a person preaches God blesses them with money, and material things for their wants, withdraw yourselves, but there are people who come across as great theologians, and studied the word, and preached for 20 years, that believe God blesses them with money for their wants, and that the covering is a cloth, or something similar.
The covering is speaking of hair on a man and a woman.
1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
If a man has long hair it is a shame unto him, and what did they do in the counterculture movement that was against authority, they grew their hair long.
1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
The man should cut his hair, for he ought not to cover his head, for he is in the image of God.
Jesus came in the image of God, so the man Christ Jesus would of had short hair.
And for people who would say Samson had long hair, but he was not in the image of God, for nobody was in the image of God after Adam and Eve fell until Jesus came.
Even nature teaches that a man should not have long hair, the way that God created the world to operate, the natural realm.
1Co 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
1Co 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
Men should have short hair, and should cut it if it gets too long, and a woman should have long hair, and if she cuts it, even an inch, it is the same as if she is shaven.
God wants a distinction between a man and a woman according to their hair, and some might have a hard time with that for they do not understand, but God has a reason, and that is because the man is the head of the woman, although the woman is equal to a man in the Lord, which this pertains to the Church, the preacher, not the saints in general.
1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
Women should have uncut hair because of the angels, for the angels are last in the authority structure of God on earth, and they are ministering spirits, but creation was all for people.
The Bible plainly states that the covering is hair, and not a cloth..
And I am not making this a salvation issue, but it is plain that the covering is hair, which cannot be ignored, why, because the Bible says it is hair.
It is strange that they came up with cloth as if nobody read the chapter far enough.
It is like Paul stating having food, and clothing, be content, and if a person preaches God blesses them with money, and material things for their wants, withdraw yourselves, but there are people who come across as great theologians, and studied the word, and preached for 20 years, that believe God blesses them with money for their wants, and that the covering is a cloth, or something similar.
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Perhaps because they don't find it scripturally relevant to do so. Not entirely sure what you mean by prophesying. It is God who calls a person to be a prophet and anything said must be strictly only what God said to speak. A person claiming to be a prophet of God must be 100% accurate in what they say is going to happen otherwise they are just speaking for themselves and not for God.
It's just cultural. Back then men wore identical to skirts but not we wear pants and so do women.
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