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That's an interesting way to read those few passages, because to me, it looks like the Turkish church at Pergamum is being addressed and that figurative language is being used to express God's truth that He doesn't want His people to fellowship with darkness. Besides, some events in the book of Revelation already happened long ago. Certainly I believe the very earliest chapters have.
Really? I dont see that, in fact it looks literal to me. "I know where you dwell, where satans throne is" "where satan dwells", it seems like Christ is talking to those who suffer in His name in the land satan dwells. How is that figurative?
And thats a common argument with the atheist, that the prophecy of revelation already happened, and is proved by the fact that it matches with prophecies in the OT, and there have been a few instances that have happened in the past that are similar to it. I think they dont understand Gods word about how time and the earth repeats itself over and over. What has been, will be. And what has been done, will be done again. For there is nothing new under the sun. The anti christ will come from the continuation of the Babylonian empire, and do the same things many before him have done, stand against Israel under the banner of another false god.
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Not calling Tintin an atheist, before someone tries to accuse me of that 
Im talking about the argument against Revelation being a prophecy for the future.
Im talking about the argument against Revelation being a prophecy for the future.
As for the 'throne of Satan' passage, given the context, it strikes me as figurative. Saying this place in Turkey was so evil and so hidden from the light, that it seemed like Satan was enthroned there. Maybe you're correct, maybe not. That's okay. As for me, I've read Revelation before and excerpts of it many times, but I'm going to wait until the end of my Bible reading to look into it in a much deeper way (In the OT, I'm currently working through Nehemiah). Bless you, bro.
Haha! No worries. I wasn't saying every event found in Revelation has already occurred or even most of it, but I believe some of it already has and that John was writing, by way of Holy Spirit, to encourage the early Christians in their present and future persecutions. And I've never heard this from an atheist argument. I've definitely heard it from conservative Christian Bible scholars and theologians. As for the 'throne of Satan' passage, given the context, it strikes me as figurative. Saying this place in Turkey was so evil and so hidden from the light, that it seemed like Satan was enthroned there. Maybe you're correct, maybe not. That's okay. As for me, I've read Revelation before and excerpts of it many times, but I'm going to wait until the end of my Bible reading to look into it in a much deeper way (In the OT, I'm currently working through Nehemiah). Bless you, bro.
As for the 'throne of Satan' passage, given the context, it strikes me as figurative. Saying this place in Turkey was so evil and so hidden from the light, that it seemed like Satan was enthroned there. Maybe you're correct, maybe not. That's okay. As for me, I've read Revelation before and excerpts of it many times, but I'm going to wait until the end of my Bible reading to look into it in a much deeper way (In the OT, I'm currently working through Nehemiah). Bless you, bro.
Oh, actually I thing I see what you mean now
Ive read Revelations before, /but/ it was back in a time that I couldnt understand a /word/ of it I should read it from front to back now, with the better understanding that I have. I believe certain things have happened from those passages, too. Would like to learn more about it, though.
