The Anti-Christ Will Be a Man or Islam?

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Man or Islam

  • Man

    Votes: 22 95.7%
  • Islam

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
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SolidGround

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how does the report button work? can someone pm me. I'm having trouble: it won't let me report...
 
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4enlightment, please read posts # 66, 67, 69 & 71 wherein I describe/identify the anti-Christs in context.
Matthew 12:30
“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

John 11:47 Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin.


“What are we accomplishing?” they asked. “Here is this man performing many signs. 48 If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our temple and our nation.”

49 Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, “You know nothing at all! 50 You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.”
 

SolidGround

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doulos

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well,i,m really surprised of ignorant people,here in this thread.The people who know nothing about Islam or are under the influence of false propaganda against Islam are relating Islam and anti Christ.when, we Muslims have been warned against anti Christ centuries age...
Then why do you follow muhammad who lied, stole, murdered, and did children(as islams own writings testify)? Do you not know that those who deny the Son are antichrist?

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

As a muslim isn’t it true that for you to admit Christ is the only begotten Son of God would be committing the unpardonable sin of shirk? So how can one that denies the only begotten Son of God not be an antichrist?

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

How can you come to know the Father, if the only way to come to the Father is through the only begotten Son you deny exists?

So let me ask you fozi, who do you follow God or the lying, thieving, murdering, child doing muhammad? Please consider the following from islam’s own writings before answering!

From Bukhari

(Book #11, Hadith #622) He replied, 'By Allah! I do not find the followers of Muhammad doing those good things (which they used to do before) except the offering of congregational prayer."

(Book #12, Hadith #770) They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers.(Book #13, Hadith #49) So anybody who becomes a ruler of the followers of Muhammad and has the power to harm or benefit people then he should accept the good from the benevolent amongst them (Ansar) and overlook the faults of their wrong-doers."

(Book #18, Hadith #154) The Prophet then said, "O followers of Muhammad! By Allah! There is none who has more ghaira (self-respect) than Allah as He has forbidden that His slaves, male or female commit adultery (illegal sexual intercourse). O followers of Muhammad! By Allah! If you knew that which I know you would laugh little and weep much.

(Book #55, Hadith #555) He will reply, 'Muhammad and his followers (will stand witness for me).' So, I and my followers will stand as witnesses for him (that he conveyed Allah's Message)."

(Book #59, Hadith #685) He will appear amongst you (O Muhammad's followers), and if it happens...

(Book #60, Hadith #14) He will say, 'Muhammad and his followers. So they (i.e. Muslims) will testify that he conveyed the Message.

(Book #60, Hadith #236) So I will raise my head and Say, 'My followers, O my Lord! My followers, O my Lord'. It will be said, 'O Muhammad! Let those of your followers who have no accounts, enter through such a gate of the gates of Paradise as lies on the right...

(Book #62, Hadith #148) Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle said, "O followers of Muhammad! There is none, who has a greater sense of Ghira (self-respect) than Allah, so He has forbidden that His slave commits illegal sexual intercourse or His slave girl commits illegal sexual intercourse. O followers of Muhammad! If you but knew what I know, you would laugh less and weep more!"

(Book #78, Hadith #627) Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet said, "O followers of Muhammad! By Allah, if you knew what I know, you would weep much and laugh little."

(Book #92, Hadith #448) He will reply. '(My witnesses are) Muhammad and his followers.'
(Book #93, Hadith #601) I will say, 'O Lord, my followers! My followers!' And then it will be said 'Go and take out of Hell (Fire) all those who have faith in their hearts, equal to the weight of a barley grain.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers! My followers!' It will be said, 'Go and take out of it all those who have faith in their hearts equal to the weight of a small ant or a mustard seed.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers!' Then He will say, 'Go and take out (all those) in whose hearts there is faith even to the lightest, lightest mustard seed.

(Book #93, Hadith #608) Among the things which Allah revealed to him then, was: "Fifty prayers were enjoined on his followers in a day and a night." Moses said, "Your followers cannot do that; Go back so that your Lord may reduce it for you and for them."
"O Lord, please lighten our burden as my followers cannot do that." However, your followers are weaker in body, heart, sight and hearing, so return to your Lord so that He may lighten your burden." The Prophet said, "O Lord, my followers are weak in their bodies, hearts, hearing and constitution, so lighten our burden."

As islam’s own writings show you FOLLOW the lying, thieving, murdering child doing muhammad. Isn’t it time you quit following muhammad and set aside the teachings of the stand alone 23 year record of the lying, thieving, murdering, child doing muhammad in favor of the 1600 year record of numerous prophets from Moses through Christ the Messiah (the only begotten Son of God) so that you can come to know the one true God who created everything?
 
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WELL ,FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT.......WHAT A MYSTERY...

THE GOD DOES NOT HAVE ANY SON OR DAUGHTER.......HE IS ABOVE SUCH THINGS.HE IS GOD, NOT HUMAN BEING.
HE IS ONLY ONE AND ALL POWERFUL AND CHRIST WERE HIS PROPHET AND HUMAN BEING
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FOR HOW LONG WILL U PEOPLE TRY TO DECEIVE YOURSELF AND OTHERS BY DISTORTING THE TEACHINGS OF QURAN AND PRESENTING BEFORE OTHERS...............?FOR HOW LONG WILL U PEOPLE TRY TO RAISE FALSE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST ISLAM AND WILL TRY TO DECEIVE OTHERS.........?fALSE ALLEGATIONS CANNOT DISTORT THE BRIGHT FACE OF iSLAM AND CANNOT LESSEN THE STATUS AND RESPECT OF LAST PROPHET(PBUH)........... OPEN YOUR EYES AND COME OUT OF YOUR NARROW AND PREJUDICED WORLD.
THE CHURCH TRIED TO DO SO CENTURIES AGO BUT FAILED BECAUSE LOTS OF PEOPLE LEARNT THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM BY THEMSELVES AND EMBRACED IT
........AND ITS STILL GOING ON.........SUCH TACTICS ARE REALLY USELESS AND TRY TO SOLVE THE MYSTERIES IN WHICH YOUR PRECIOUS CHURCH HAS LEFT U.........
ARE CHRISTIANS REALLY AFRAID OF THEIR OWN SINS WHO COMMIT SIN THEMSELVES AND KEEP IT ON THE SHOULDERS OF PROPHET CHRIST....IS IT JUSTICE...?..SHOULD NOT PEOPLE B RESPONSIBLE OF THEIR OWN MISTAKES......?WELL, ON DAY OF JUDGEMENT EVERYONE WILL B RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN DOINGS AND NO ONE WILL B RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHERS SINS BEFORE GOD

 
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gene77

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I would suggest reading this book:

Unleashing the Beast - Perry Stone.

It answers a lot of questions regarding the Antichrist, the parallelism between the Islamic belief of their Mahdi and the Antichrist of Christian belief, the Arabic and Islamic background, and displays a lot of references from the Bible and the Quran. Over 34 years of research went into writing this book, so if not for anything, you will at least learn some history! :)
 
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doulos

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WELL ,FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT.......WHAT A MYSTERY...

THE GOD DOES NOT HAVE ANY SON OR DAUGHTER.......HE IS ABOVE SUCH THINGS.HE IS GOD, NOT HUMAN BEING.
HE IS ONLY ONE AND ALL POWERFUL AND CHRIST WERE HIS PROPHET AND HUMAN BEING
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FOR HOW LONG WILL U PEOPLE TRY TO DECEIVE YOURSELF AND OTHERS BY DISTORTING THE TEACHINGS OF QURAN AND PRESENTING BEFORE OTHERS...............?FOR HOW LONG WILL U PEOPLE TRY TO RAISE FALSE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST ISLAM AND WILL TRY TO DECEIVE OTHERS.........?fALSE ALLEGATIONS CANNOT DISTORT THE BRIGHT FACE OF iSLAM AND CANNOT LESSEN THE STATUS AND RESPECT OF LAST PROPHET(PBUH)........... OPEN YOUR EYES AND COME OUT OF YOUR NARROW AND PREJUDICED WORLD.
THE CHURCH TRIED TO DO SO CENTURIES AGO BUT FAILED BECAUSE LOTS OF PEOPLE LEARNT THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM BY THEMSELVES AND EMBRACED IT
........AND ITS STILL GOING ON.........SUCH TACTICS ARE REALLY USELESS AND TRY TO SOLVE THE MYSTERIES IN WHICH YOUR PRECIOUS CHURCH HAS LEFT U.........
ARE CHRISTIANS REALLY AFRAID OF THEIR OWN SINS WHO COMMIT SIN THEMSELVES AND KEEP IT ON THE SHOULDERS OF PROPHET CHRIST....IS IT JUSTICE...?..SHOULD NOT PEOPLE B RESPONSIBLE OF THEIR OWN MISTAKES......?WELL, ON DAY OF JUDGEMENT EVERYONE WILL B RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN DOINGS AND NO ONE WILL B RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHERS SINS BEFORE GOD

I see you were afraid to address the issues raised and instead chose to perpetuate lies! Please show us how I distorted the teachings of islam. Show us where the quotes I used from islams own books are wrong. When you can’t will you then admit you follow the lying, thieving, murdering, child doing false prophet muhammad instead of the one true God who created everything?

2Th 2:10-11 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Could it be that you do not love the truth and as a result have been sent strong delusion so that you believe a lie?

As I said before so long as you continue to deny that Christ is the only begotten Son of God you will not come to know the Father!

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
You can continue to believe the lies of Muhammad who per islams own writings was a liar and be led to perdition or you can reject his false teachings and choose to come to know Christ and through Him, His Father opening the door to eternal life! The choice is yours my friend!
 
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homwardbound

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well,i,m really surprised of ignorant people,here in this thread.The people who know nothing about Islam or are under the influence of false propaganda against Islam are relating Islam and anti Christ.when, we Muslims have been warned against anti Christ centuries age...and we have been asked to beware of his false preachings and his illusions and we ask God to save us from him..............what , u people living in western world know about Islam......?only the propaganda that,s continuing against it from centuries....? Why the church was afraid of Islam..? because of the weaknesses of christianity that were the result of false beliefs that were included in bible by church..
The people should keep their prejudice aside and look at the brutalities against Muslims in palestine,Iraq, Afghanistan,mayamar............
Islam is the last religion liked by god.And we Muslims beleive in one God who is all powerfull and kind.we beleive in pious life and the day of judgement and the life after death where everyone will b responsible for his own sins that is very much logical .not like christianity where sins r commited by one person and r kept on shoulders of the prophet Christ.Its not tricky and confusing like trinity which even Christians are unable to understand.......
Please tell me do you:
Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

For I believe God does love us all so much that he:
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
 
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how does the report button work? can someone pm me. I'm having trouble: it won't let me report...
SolidGround, "thou shalt not bear false witness." The following, my position on "anti-Christ," is in total agreement with the apostle John's application of this word and is therefore anything but heresy. So, before clicking on the "report" button read John's (and my) definition of "anti-Christ." This is based upon the only application of the word anti-Christ in scripture (1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John v. 7).

Any person who denies that Jesus is the Christ (i.e., Messiah of Bible prophecy) is according to these verses "a liar" and "anti-Christ" (1 John 2:22). There are no exceptions. Anyone who denies this truth, that Jesus is the Christ, that Messiah "is come in the flesh" (2 John v. 7) is, according to Bible definition, a liar, deceiver, and "an anti-Christ." Collectively they are the anti-Christ and are among those for whom Christians are to maintain a policy of nonsupport. We are warned not to receive them into our house, nor to bid them Godspeed lest we be partakers of their evil deeds (2 John vv. 10-11).

Why, therefore, because I tell you the truth am I become your enemy (Galatians 4:16)?

 
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doulos

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SolidGround, "thou shalt not bear false witness." The following, my position on "anti-Christ," is in total agreement with the apostle John's application of this word and is therefore anything but heresy. So, before clicking on the "report" button read John's (and my) definition of "anti-Christ." This is based upon the only application of the word anti-Christ in scripture (1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John v. 7).

Any person who denies that Jesus is the Christ (i.e., Messiah of Bible prophecy) is according to these verses "a liar" and "anti-Christ" (1 John 2:22). There are no exceptions. Anyone who denies this truth, that Jesus is the Christ, that Messiah "is come in the flesh" (2 John v. 7) is, according to Bible definition, a liar, deceiver, and "an anti-Christ." Collectively they are the anti-Christ and are among those for whom Christians are to maintain a policy of nonsupport. We are warned not to receive them into our house, nor to bid them Godspeed lest we be partakers of their evil deeds (2 John vv. 10-11).

Why, therefore, because I tell you the truth am I become your enemy (Galatians 4:16)?

Rom 11:28-29 Asconcerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching theelection, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling ofGod are without repentance.

Historicist who are the elect that are enemies of thegospel?
 
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THE GOD DOES NOT HAVE ANY ... DAUGHTER.
Surat An-Najm (53) 19-20 So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza? And Manat, the third - the other one?

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Sophia1993

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I see you were afraid to address the issues raised and instead chose to perpetuate lies! Please show us how I distorted the teachings of islam. Show us where the quotes I used from islams own books are wrong. When you can’t will you then admit you follow the lying, thieving, murdering, child doing false prophet muhammad instead of the one true God who created everything?

2Th 2:10-11 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Could it be that you do not love the truth and as a result have been sent strong delusion so that you believe a lie?

As I said before so long as you continue to deny that Christ is the only begotten Son of God you will not come to know the Father!

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
You can continue to believe the lies of Muhammad who per islams own writings was a liar and be led to perdition or you can reject his false teachings and choose to come to know Christ and through Him, His Father opening the door to eternal life! The choice is yours my friend!
Islam – The Crimes of Prophet Mohammed |
This is the prophet they love? Please tell me this isn't true. If it is, I already feel myself getting sick.
 
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doulos

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Islam – The Crimes of Prophet Mohammed |
This is the prophet they love? Please tell me this isn't true. If it is, I already feel myself getting sick.
Sadly as islams own writings demonstrate muhammad was a lying, thieving, murdering, child doing person. This liar has been leading his (muhammad's not God's) followers to perdition by requiring that they deny God has begotten a Son for approximately 1400 years now! Sadly islam teaches the exact opposite of he gospel!

islam the opposite <click
 
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Wanderers

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thanks.
after reading it through, I guess I don't have the right to report anything.




... but I still don't think it's okay for someone to tell me to not fly the Israel flag,
and that all modern day Jews are the synagogue of Satan.
Quite agree.

It is easy to forget that Jesus was a Jew, the disciples were Jews, Paul was a Jew, that salvation comes from the Jews etc.
 
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Sophia1993

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Sadly as islams own writings demonstrate muhammad was a lying, thieving, murdering, child doing person. This liar has been leading his (muhammad's not God's) followers to perdition by requiring that they deny God has begotten a Son for approximately 1400 years now! Sadly islam teaches the exact opposite of he gospel!

islam the opposite <click
I'll read it now. Thanks.
also, I found these wonderful links.. Nice prophet.
Bukhari :: Menstrual Periods :: [1.6.298]


Sahih Bukhari Volume 001, Book 004, Hadith Number 233.
 
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Quite agree.

It is easy to forget that Jesus was a Jew, the disciples were Jews, Paul was a Jew, that salvation comes from the Jews etc.
Yes Wanderers, Jesus, the disciples, and Paul were Jews, real Jews. The book of Acts describes the first Christians as "thousands of Jews" (21:20). Chapter 18, verse 28 tells us that Apollos"...mightily convinced the Jews...showing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ." The disciples (real Jews) "were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26). Who then, and where, are today's millions of Christian descendants of those "thousands of Jews" long ago? Yes, as Isaiah prophesied (62:2; 65:15) that they, like the disciples when in Antioch, are called, not Jews, but "Christians," Israel's "new name...another name" in the New Covenant era. Why then does a religious establishment not admit that today's millions of Christian descendants, of those ("thousands of Jews") are found---in the church, in historic Christianity? Why then, are we taught to identify Israel based upon a mantra, one repeated as "Israel rejected Jesus?" Why does a religious establishment want us to believe that it is the descendants of non-Messianic Israelites only---who are Israelites---and to be supported by Christians! Who then, are we to identify as today's descendants of "them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 3:9)? Is it today's Christian descendants of those "thousands" of Messianic Israelites, or is it the descendants of non-Messianic Jews only? Why then, are we told, by the dispensationalist-futurist establishment, that descendants of non-Messianic Jews only are Israelites, and to be supported by Christians? I don't know about you, but I smell a rat?
 
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Rom 11:28-29 Asconcerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching theelection, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling ofGod are without repentance.

Historicist who are the elect that are enemies of thegospel?
doulos, your interpretation of two verses does not overrule John's admonition regarding "anti-Christs," regarding those, then and now, who, denying the claims of Jesus, call Him a liar. Romans 3:3 tells us it was "some," not all Jews who, "did not believe." You, apparently, believe all Jews rejected Jesus and the New Covenant, then, and for the last 2000 years. That this could not be further from the truth is demonstrated by the "...thousands of Jews which believe" (Acts 21:20; 18:28, etc).
You need to read The Invention of the Jewish People by Israeli professor Shlomo Sand, and The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler, and the 2012 Johns Hopkins Jewish DNA Study. These, by Jewish authors and scientists, document the non-Israelitish Khazar ancestry of modern "Jews." Please Google on these titles, expose yourself to the other side of the story.
 
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doulos, your interpretation of two verses does not overrule John's admonition regarding "anti-Christs," regarding those, then and now, who, denying the claims of Jesus, call Him a liar. Romans 3:3 tells us it was "some," not all Jews who, "did not believe." You, apparently, believe all Jews rejected Jesus and the New Covenant, then, and for the last 2000 years. That this could not be further from the truth is demonstrated by the "...thousands of Jews which believe" (Acts 21:20; 18:28, etc).
You need to read The Invention of the Jewish People by Israeli professor Shlomo Sand, and The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler, and the 2012 Johns Hopkins Jewish DNA Study. These, by Jewish authors and scientists, document the non-Israelitish Khazar ancestry of modern "Jews." Please Google on these titles, expose yourself to the other side of the story.
My friend please don't make the mistake of assuming you know what others believe. You are definitely in error when it comes to my beliefs about the Jews! Todays Jews are just like todays gentiles some believe, some don't!

I see you chose not to answer my question. Please tell us who in your opinion are the elect that are enemies of the gospel?
 
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I'll read it now. Thanks.
also, I found these wonderful links.. Nice prophet.
You're a good teacher. I wonder why you don't start a thread to educate us about the history of Islam?