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In the mechanical translation the word "good and evil" is actually demonstrated to mean functional and nonfunctional, something that makes a lot more sense to me. God saw that the things He created were functional(they worked like they should). God saw that it was nonfunctional for the man to be alone(it wasn't working out for the man). The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were functional(hey guys, we can have sex with these women). The tree of the knowledge of functional and nonfunctional(there are things that work correctly and there are things that do not work correctly). The idea of the mechanical translation was to keep religious bias out of the equation. It is a presentation of the actual words which allows the reader to make up his own mind.
I have never heard of this mechanical translation. If it isn't mentioned in any scholarly circles I have heard of. If it is just a direct word for word translation, it will have no meaning in English. Greek has very different grammatical structures, and you have to rearrange the words around a bit, in some cases, for it to mean much. John's writings are different. Hebrew is a bit closer to English too! To say nothing of when Paul writes for 20 verses or more without a period. We just don't do that in English!
I read the NASB for about 20 years. I wore out a couple of them. It was a fairly good translation. I pulled it up a couple of times for comparison in Greek class, and they had some really solid translation, and kept the tenses and meanings.
I just left it because it was too stilted, and the language was getting dated for me. But, still a very worthwhile translation.
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Interesting that you mentioned these other language translation, 95% of bibles have mistakes and errors within, the old Greek version was translated from another sourse as well and that has lead to many other translations from then on "meanly English versions" to follow the same pattern. Not sure why either out of fear to change it or arrogance in ignoring the truth. Two example are Mary Magdalene and Jeremiah spoke of prophesied the 30 pieces of silver story of judas. God doesn't misrepresent things nor make mistakes or errors.
For some time I had no idea Mary was from Magdala, A Magdalene,, similar to how the bible mentions Jesus as being a Nazarene, it took me looking into the Aramaic bible and learning that Mary is from Magdala thus Mary the Magdalene.. Most bibles have this misrepresented as in (Mary Magdalene).
These bibles fail at adding the proper wording in between Mary and Magdalene by not using either A or The in between. This gives a false represention of who she was and where she was from. I say who because some folks think today Mary was a prositute because the meaning of language has changed the meaning of the word Magdalene then again this source comes from the Catholic stuff.
Another mentioning that is incorrectly is the account of Judas placing the 30 silver coins in the temple and the verse that follows that.
The Greek has it as spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, this is totally a mistake. It should have been either (from the book of Jeremiah) or (spoken by Zachariah the prophet).
The original bible language was either in Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin.
Even this version I'm using sryiac Peshito isn't the orginal nor is Greek nor is English. The orginal scrolls or scribes, manuscripts have been over used in the day and lost to time "for now". Maybe one day something can be of better translation but until then we are left with past reworked evangelist translations rather from Greek, English, Aramaic that have errors and mistakes in them, I don't know of a NT in Hebrew could be wrong on that so this could be of use if there is any NT in Hebrew from past times.
For some time I had no idea Mary was from Magdala, A Magdalene,, similar to how the bible mentions Jesus as being a Nazarene, it took me looking into the Aramaic bible and learning that Mary is from Magdala thus Mary the Magdalene.. Most bibles have this misrepresented as in (Mary Magdalene).
These bibles fail at adding the proper wording in between Mary and Magdalene by not using either A or The in between. This gives a false represention of who she was and where she was from. I say who because some folks think today Mary was a prositute because the meaning of language has changed the meaning of the word Magdalene then again this source comes from the Catholic stuff.
Another mentioning that is incorrectly is the account of Judas placing the 30 silver coins in the temple and the verse that follows that.
The Greek has it as spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, this is totally a mistake. It should have been either (from the book of Jeremiah) or (spoken by Zachariah the prophet).
The original bible language was either in Hebrew or Aramaic or Latin.
Even this version I'm using sryiac Peshito isn't the orginal nor is Greek nor is English. The orginal scrolls or scribes, manuscripts have been over used in the day and lost to time "for now". Maybe one day something can be of better translation but until then we are left with past reworked evangelist translations rather from Greek, English, Aramaic that have errors and mistakes in them, I don't know of a NT in Hebrew could be wrong on that so this could be of use if there is any NT in Hebrew from past times.
B
I couldn't rep you arrg,, lol
Though thanks for your post I like your approach, it was perplexing to me, got me thinking contemplating on it.
It was a little over the top, I tuned down the verbiage
17 All the generations, therefore, are, from Abraham to David fourteen generations, (further) from David to the captivity of Babylon fourteen generations, (furthermore) from the captivity of Babylon to the Messiah fourteen generations.
18 (resultantly) the birth of Jesus the Messiah was thus. While his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they had cohabited, she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.
19 (withal) Joseph her husband was a righteous man, (farther) unwilling to expose her: (moreover) he thought of putting her away privately.
20 (hence,) while he contemplated these things, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, (thereupon) said to him: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take Mary thy wife; for that which is conceived in her, is from the Holy Spirit:
Though thanks for your post I like your approach, it was perplexing to me, got me thinking contemplating on it.
It was a little over the top, I tuned down the verbiage
17 All the generations, therefore, are, from Abraham to David fourteen generations, (further) from David to the captivity of Babylon fourteen generations, (furthermore) from the captivity of Babylon to the Messiah fourteen generations.
18 (resultantly) the birth of Jesus the Messiah was thus. While his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they had cohabited, she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.
19 (withal) Joseph her husband was a righteous man, (farther) unwilling to expose her: (moreover) he thought of putting her away privately.
20 (hence,) while he contemplated these things, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, (thereupon) said to him: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take Mary thy wife; for that which is conceived in her, is from the Holy Spirit: