IS SMOKING A SIN WORTHY OF DISFELLOWSHIPMENT?
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You've heard some smokers come into this thread and share. Have you heard a single one of them say smoking is GOOD? I haven't heard a single "fabrication to justify it being good" and I haven't heard a single one of them say it makes them happy either or that addiction isn't a factor.
I don't know which smokers you've analyzed but the ones who've come in here all seem to want to quit and don't seem to fit this model you've come up with.
I don't know which smokers you've analyzed but the ones who've come in here all seem to want to quit and don't seem to fit this model you've come up with.
When I hear men talking about something that doesn't happen to be their problem or one of their besetting sins or faults or difficulties speak self righteously and without mercy, I feel worse for them than I do for the men they're being unmerciful towards because I know what happens for them next - a fall and some humbling. (Which is the mercy of God toward them - but still, it makes you wince for what you know will come to them).
How does one conclude that smoking is a sin? Is it that "body is a temple" thingy? Isn't the purity of our hearts what that actually means? If smoking is a sin, then......so is drinking any alcohol, and eating any foods that contain various things that are harmful to one's health. Shoot, these days, breathing the AIR is a sin given that standard of what a sin is.
Is smoking good for you? Yes and no.
Like a Preacher I once heard say? You won't go to hell for smoking, but you will smell like you been there.
Is smoking good for you? Yes and no.
Like a Preacher I once heard say? You won't go to hell for smoking, but you will smell like you been there.
Do you never submit to your desires?
If someone cuts you off in traffic have you never submitted to your desire to honk the horn and scream and yell they are an idiot?
Jesus says anger toward your brother means you have already committed murder.
Which do you think is worse - a murderer or a smoker?
You do have it right - God IS listening.
If someone cuts you off in traffic have you never submitted to your desire to honk the horn and scream and yell they are an idiot?
Jesus says anger toward your brother means you have already committed murder.
Which do you think is worse - a murderer or a smoker?
You do have it right - God IS listening.
Nicotine actually has one good thing it does, but Doctors do not talk about it to people, because, for the most part, it does more harm than good. The good thing about smoking is that when one is in a great level of stress or such, smoking will work to calm the person down. Believe it or not, but when one is having coughing fits, smoking will stop them as well. Yeah, smoking is probably what caused the fits to begin with, but, not all the time. Sometimes chronic sinus drainage can cause a person to have a coughing/choking fit.......and smoking will greatly help to calm it down.
No, Doctors do not tell people about this...........but that in no way makes it untrue. If you know a Doctor, ask them to give a serious answer about this.
Anyway.........
No, Doctors do not tell people about this...........but that in no way makes it untrue. If you know a Doctor, ask them to give a serious answer about this.
Anyway.........
Addiction is idolatry.
Addicted smokers hold their cigarettes in a place of high importance and are, in fact, enslaved by them.
Smoking their cigarettes is ritualistic and they do it, figuratively speaking, religiously.
Cigarettes cost a lot of money, and that money becomes an offering to themselves.
An addict who is "miserable" chose the misery, and they can choose to stop it.
No, I don't have compassion on them, I hold them in contempt.
Especially when I see them buying food with an EBT card and they're obviously smokers.
And especially especially ones whose children are forced to breath their second-hand poison,
and are sent to school in rags that smell like they're stored in an ashtray because their low-life parents
don't have money to buy them new clothes because they wasted it on cigarettes and whatever else.
I have compassion on their children, who are victims of abuse IMO.
And then there's the people that won't leave that garbage at home for two
hours on a Sunday, and feel the need to smoke up in the church parking lot.
I can protect my kids from most evils of the world by not frequenting
crap-holes in real life or on TV, but you'd think church would be the
one place I could take them without having them to see debauchery.
Addicted smokers hold their cigarettes in a place of high importance and are, in fact, enslaved by them.
Smoking their cigarettes is ritualistic and they do it, figuratively speaking, religiously.
Cigarettes cost a lot of money, and that money becomes an offering to themselves.
An addict who is "miserable" chose the misery, and they can choose to stop it.
No, I don't have compassion on them, I hold them in contempt.
Especially when I see them buying food with an EBT card and they're obviously smokers.
And especially especially ones whose children are forced to breath their second-hand poison,
and are sent to school in rags that smell like they're stored in an ashtray because their low-life parents
don't have money to buy them new clothes because they wasted it on cigarettes and whatever else.
I have compassion on their children, who are victims of abuse IMO.
And then there's the people that won't leave that garbage at home for two
hours on a Sunday, and feel the need to smoke up in the church parking lot.
I can protect my kids from most evils of the world by not frequenting
crap-holes in real life or on TV, but you'd think church would be the
one place I could take them without having them to see debauchery.
Or insert the word "over-eating" and a whole host of other things - this too destroys the temple that the Spirit of God lives in. This body is dead because of the law of sin in it. Rom. 7:22-23
Romans 8:10 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.
Romans 8:10 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness.
I did read the rest of your post, but trimmed to just this, to say I agree. Smoking is a self indulgent self destructive habit that amounts to slowly committing suicide, among quite a few other other not so pleasant things, none of which are life affirming. Everything God has given us is good but man uses it to his destruction. The nicotine in cigarettes stimulate and release chemical messengers like epinephrine and dopamine that allow the smoker to relax, and also sharpens your brain and increases your alertness, but surely there are better ways to achieve the same effect?
