LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF GODS LAW IN US

followjesus · Sep 24, 2017

beta said:

it really is alarming and also it Just Shows How true Gods Word is.

2 timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

2 peter 2:1 "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."

People act as if correct doctrine isnt important, yet there are dire warnings about false doctrine throughout the New and old testaments. if People would simplify and Just understand its as simple as believing what the Lord has said about His Own Kingdom, His own salvation..after all Not believing Gods Word, and accepting a fallacy..... is what caused death in the beginning.

LoveGodForever · Sep 24, 2017

dcontroversal said:

Well said Friend it is the mirror that helps us to see....because we are blind

LoveGodForever · Sep 24, 2017

Nehemiah6 said:

Hi Nehemiah6,

You may need to read Mark 2:26-27. "The Lord's Day" is the Sabbath not Sunday as your trying to interpret it. It was made for mankind and Jesus is the Lord of it. He is the creator of all. He asks us to keep it as a holy day because he made it as such for his people in the creation week (Genesis 2:1-3). We must follow our Lord because we love him (John 14:15).

Acts 15 is talking about the Jewish believers who were trying to force circumcision which is part of the ceremonial laws of Moses and shadow of things to come on gentile believers. Are you saying, because Acts 15 does not mention any of God's commandments then it is ok to; steal, lie, commit adultery, use the Lords name in vain or break any other of the 10? God's Word does not agree with this interpretation. Happy to share scripture with you if you like lust let me know? Since the topic and OP is on Love I will just leave you with these to consider....

Matthew 22:36-40
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38, This is the first and great commandment. 39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40, On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (see Deut 6:5; Lev 19:18)

Matthew 19:16-19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17, And he said unto him, Why call thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18, He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19, Honor thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Romans 13:8-10
8, Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another hath fulfilled the law.9, For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

James 2:8-128,
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well: 9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

In Christ Always!

dcontroversal · Sep 25, 2017

LoveGodForever said:

Peace mate...back in the Riff again....what's up!

followjesus · Sep 25, 2017

loveme1 said:

amen, i think that the phrases Like " God will work through us" lead to the Idea we dont actually need to do anything, as if God will repent for me, God will force me to dp right when Hes ready i just need to not do anything and then Hell do everything.....

really to me anyways the Knowlege of "Christ in us"means that WE can do all things Now, through Christ.

Philippians 4:13 "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

what he does for us is strengthen us to do the things were meant to do. Make us able to be children of God.

2 peter 1:3-11 "According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

5And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shallneither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

His power works in us yes, but we have to do Our part through Him.

followjesus · Sep 25, 2017

beta said:

Really any Son is an extention of His Father. Before a child is Born they are within thier Fathers Blood, at Birth, the One Born then Becomes the child Where as they were in thier Father and before that in thier Grandfather..so to say He is God is not necassarily Wrong, it Just confuses the Fact that God did not come Himself, He had a Son He sent to save us and that is what Christianity Has to be based upon. Peter was the chief apostle the One whom Jesus comissioned to Feed His Sheep. He says this really very clearly He would have to Know what He is talking about id think most would agree

acts 3:The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.14But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

...v. 26Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

"I have come to call sinners to repentance" Without the Son of God there is No christianity.

beta · Sep 25, 2017

Why is there all this disagreement and confusion in christianity ?

It is my belief that gentiles have been 'bamboozled into accepting a different jesus from the one that actually died for them. True...they read all the scriptures applying to Jesus of Nazareth but then end up worshipping a jesus from Rome....on a different day than the Lord of the Sabbath.
There always has been a problem with 'sun-worship' that the God of the Bible does not approve of and consequently we have this spiritual confusion throughout centuries....introduced by UNgodly men even denying the Lord who bought them with His own Blood and giving all credit/honour/worship to an imposter.
The Lord of the Sabbath has to be re-instated as our SAVIOR to bring Peace to Christians !
Jesus Christ 'the same yesterday, today and forever !!!

followjesus · Sep 25, 2017

beta said:

Why is there all this disagreement and confusion in christianity ?

Because of false doctrine. People dont get i dont think what false doctrine really is and who it comes from. its the very thing that atan did to eve and adam. False doctrine creates a mind that cannot accept truth, it builds a wall slowly in the Mind, so that when a person Hears the message of the Kingdom they cant understand or accept it theres no room for it in them because the false doctrine occupies the spaces in the mind and Heart. Long ago men began preaching thier own Heart rather than Christs Gospel.

its what the apostles warned us for so much and forewarned that would come in the latter times. the many teachers with itching ears have long since been at work. False doctrine is really the Only danger to a christian when it is examined. its why satan does so much to keep us from the Word of God, He knows it will expose Him for what He is when someone accepts the Kingdom. false doctrine Creates walls in the Mind, the truth is needed to break them into peices.....

matt 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

Matthew 13 :18-23 "Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side

But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty."

Posts like this op are sorely needed in all theaters of Christianity, those who will Heed posts Like the Op here and take the Word in will see truth in time.

LoveGodForever · Sep 25, 2017

beta said:

Interesting question sister Beta. I hope this is not going to far away from the OP. But very short video on how the Lord's Day, the 7th Day Sabbath was changed from the 7th Day of the Week to Sunday worship. From those that made the changes. It was inherited from the Mother Church where Protestantism came from and a legacy from those time. Proof as follows.....

[video=youtube;CrB21mc2fmI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrB21mc2fmI&feature=youtu.be[/video]

I found this interesting and hope you all do as well. Which leads me to the question who do we follow God or man?

In Christ Always!

beta · Sep 25, 2017

LGF...I have mentioned to you before that I can not 'activate this 'boxed link'....WHERE do I click on to it ? at one time the black box had a 'spiral centre and that worked fine ...but how is it done now ?

LoveGodForever · Sep 25, 2017

beta said:

Sorry beta, here is the youtube link;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrB21mc2fmI&feature=youtu.be

Let me know if this is better

God's blessing

LoveGodForever · Sep 25, 2017

Bogadile said:

[FONT=&quot]What is the false Gospel?[/FONT]

The false Gospel is one that tries to separate God's Law from Grace and faith.

Why, and what does God's Word say?

Because it is only through the Law of God (10 commandments) that any of us have a knowledge of what sin is (1John 3:4; Rom 3:20; 24). If we do away with God's Law we have no knowledge of sin. If we have no knowledge of sin we have no need of a savior. If we have no need of a savior we have no salvation. If we have no salvation we are lost. "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law." (Rom 2:12).

God's Law shows us that we are sinners in need of a savior. God's Law was given to us that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God (Rom 3:19). It shows us that we are sinners and cannot save ourselves from this disease that we have within us so that we can by Faith lay hold of the promises of God's Words so that Jesus can save us from our sins. Jesus did not come to save the righteous (those that think they do not need saving) but sinners (those that know their need of saving) (Matt 9:12-13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:32) God's Law has always been part of the true Gospel of Christ. The counterfeit Gospel does not have it. God's forever Law (the 10 commandments) is the foundation of both the Old and the New Covenant and the very foundation and basis of the true Gospel of Christ. It will be the basis of the judgement where we will all be accountable to God.

The Law of God is the only way of showing us who we truly are, sinners in need of a Saviour and in this condition we can see for the first time Him who loved us and washed us in His own blood and by faith only lay hold of the promises of God’s Word. (2Pet 1:4) It is here as we believe God that he changes us from living a life of breaking God's Law to a life of walking with him. It is through the operation of God through Love because he first loved us that we follow Jesus not for salvation but because of love. Love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk not after the flesh (carnal sinful mind) but after the spirit and why Jesus says to his followers, "If you love me keep the commandments" (John 14:15).

People cannot see that this is the operation of God in the believer and assume God's people believe they are saved by their works, when in fact Jesus is saving us from our sins to walk in newness of life in fulfillment of His new Covenant promise (Heb 8:10-12)...... Gods Sheep hear His Voice salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's Law (1John 3:4) whosoever is living in known sin has neither seen him nor known him (1John 3:6).

In Christ Always!

Bogadile · Sep 25, 2017

LoveGodForever said:

What is the false Gospel?

The false Gospel is one that tries to separate God's Law from Grace and faith.

Why, and what does God's Word say?

Because it is only through the Law of God (10 commandments) that any of us have a knowledge of what sin is (1John 3:4; Rom 3:20; 24). If we do away with God's Law we have no knowledge of sin. If we have no knowledge of sin we have no need of a savior. If we have no need of a savior we have no salvation. If we have no salvation we are lost. "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law." (Rom 2:12).

God's Law shows us that we are sinners in need of a savior. God's Law was given to us that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God (Rom 3:19). It shows us that we are sinners and cannot save ourselves from this disease that we have within us so that we can by Faith lay hold of the promises of God's Words so that Jesus can save us from our sins. Jesus did not come to save the righteous (those that think they do not need saving) but sinners (those that know their need of saving) (Matt 9:12-13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:32) God's Law has always been part of the true Gospel of Christ. The counterfeit Gospel does not have it. God's forever Law (the 10 commandments) is the foundation of both the Old and the New Covenant and the very foundation and basis of the true Gospel of Christ. It will be the basis of the judgement where we will all be accountable to God.

The Law of God is the only way of showing us who we truly are, sinners in need of a Saviour and in this condition we can see for the first time Him who loved us and washed us in His own blood and by faith only lay hold of the promises of God’s Word. (2Pet 1:4) It is here as we believe God that he changes us from living a life of breaking God's Law to a life of walking with him. It is through the operation of God through Love because he first loved us that we follow Jesus not for salvation but because of love. Love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk not after the flesh (carnal sinful mind) but after the spirit and why Jesus says to his followers, "If you love me keep the commandments" (John 14:15).

People cannot see that this is the operation of God in the believer and assume God's people believe they are saved by their works, when in fact Jesus is saving us from our sins to walk in newness of life in fulfillment of His new Covenant promise (Heb 8:10-12)...... Gods Sheep hear His Voice salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's Law (1John 3:4) whosoever is living in known sin has neither seen him nor known him (1John 3:6).

In Christ Always!

I give up. 2 corinthians 3:7

unobtrusive · Sep 25, 2017

Bogadile said:

Let's add verse 8 to 7, and rightly understand what is being said here.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Now that which worked death, on written stone tablets, came with glory, accompanied with such glory that the people of Israel couldn't stand to look at Moses' facial brilliance, even though the brightness thereof was already fading away,
[SUP]8 [/SUP]won’t the working of the Spirit be even more brilliant?

There is nothing in this scripture that divides scripture in a way that what is previously written vanishes because of what is given later. In reality, Israel actually heard the voice of God, so Who do you think that Voice is? John 1:1 The Word was God. Should we, for a moment, ignorantly believe that Jesus' first advent is the only time He shows us in scripture?

The following covenants are built on the previous ones. This is proper dispensation.

followjesus · Sep 25, 2017

LoveGodForever said:

What is the false Gospel?

The false Gospel is one that tries to separate God's Law from Grace and faith.

Why, and what does God's Word say?

Because it is only through the Law of God (10 commandments) that any of us have a knowledge of what sin is (1John 3:4; Rom 3:20; 24). If we do away with God's Law we have no knowledge of sin. If we have no knowledge of sin we have no need of a savior. If we have no need of a savior we have no salvation. If we have no salvation we are lost. "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law." (Rom 2:12).

God's Law shows us that we are sinners in need of a savior. God's Law was given to us that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God (Rom 3:19). It shows us that we are sinners and cannot save ourselves from this disease that we have within us so that we can by Faith lay hold of the promises of God's Words so that Jesus can save us from our sins. Jesus did not come to save the righteous (those that think they do not need saving) but sinners (those that know their need of saving) (Matt 9:12-13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:32) God's Law has always been part of the true Gospel of Christ. The counterfeit Gospel does not have it. God's forever Law (the 10 commandments) is the foundation of both the Old and the New Covenant and the very foundation and basis of the true Gospel of Christ. It will be the basis of the judgement where we will all be accountable to God.

The Law of God is the only way of showing us who we truly are, sinners in need of a Saviour and in this condition we can see for the first time Him who loved us and washed us in His own blood and by faith only lay hold of the promises of God’s Word. (2Pet 1:4) It is here as we believe God that he changes us from living a life of breaking God's Law to a life of walking with him. It is through the operation of God through Love because he first loved us that we follow Jesus not for salvation but because of love. Love is the fulfilling of God's Law in us who walk not after the flesh (carnal sinful mind) but after the spirit and why Jesus says to his followers, "If you love me keep the commandments" (John 14:15).

People cannot see that this is the operation of God in the believer and assume God's people believe they are saved by their works, when in fact Jesus is saving us from our sins to walk in newness of life in fulfillment of His new Covenant promise (Heb 8:10-12)...... Gods Sheep hear His Voice salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's Law (1John 3:4) whosoever is living in known sin has neither seen him nor known him (1John 3:6).

In Christ Always!

amen to the whole post there and amen again

Good stuff !! i really liked this

"God's Law has always been part of the true Gospel of Christ. The counterfeit Gospel does not have it. God's forever Law (the 10 commandments) is the foundation of both the Old and the New Covenant and the very foundation and basis of the true Gospel of Christ. It will be the basis of the judgement where we will all be accountable to God."

really great stuff, Keep it up !! God bless

followjesus · Sep 25, 2017

unobtrusive said:

"The following covenants are built on the previous ones."

Amen. As a House is Built upon a foundation, as a House requires framing work, wiring, Plumbing, Sheetrocking for walls, painting , siding, a roof and roofing......ect. Gods Plan was never Building anything else But the House in wich we dwell. The Covenant Of Our Lord Jesus Christ. a house with no foundation, will eventually sink and fall, a house with no roof will be ruined by water damage, A house with no walls, offers no protection from the winds, without the step of insulating the walls, there is no warmth in the cold.......Gods Plan Goes together and all roads Lead to Jesus Christ and His Kingdom

LoveGodForever · Sep 25, 2017

Bogadile said:

When we give up and believe God's Word, this is where we find the victory that overcomes the world and where the mirror leads all who find love. This is where God's wants his children to be so that we abide in him for without him we can do nothing but in him nothing shall be impossible unto you. Only those that know they need a physician can be healed from their sickness. The mirror shows us the way. believes. Don't be scared to come to the light. If the deeds are evil they can be taken away by believing in the Word that creates all.

followjesus · Sep 25, 2017

LoveGodForever said:

"When we give up and believe God's Word, this is where we find the victory that overcomes"

Amen that is what all of us have to do, its that simple. so many are afraid " well if i have to repent and obey Like the Word says, im lost its too much no one can really repent" the reasonm we think that way, is because we refuse to give up and simply believe Gods Word. when we do that, His word creates as it always Has. when we start Really believing what God says His power manifests to take away our sins, but w have to believe what He said in order to ever grasp the truth and experience the real freedom in the Gospel, not freedom to continue on sinning without consequence, but freedom from the oppresive power of sin to pres us to do the will of satan, rather than the freeing power of Gods Word, to robe us with righteousness and press us to do Gods Will.

if only we understood what the spirit really does for us and its power that seems lacking in the world today

LoveGodForever · Sep 25, 2017

followjesus said:

Hi followjesus,

The answer is in your name. He is the Word of life. We are to live by faith in every Word he gives us. This is where we find him who loves us. He is the hidden treasure that we must seek with all of our heart if we are to find him. None can follow him unless he leads them. He calls all saying, with an everlasting love has I loved you and with loving kindness has I drawn you. He draws all to His Word and the promise is given to us; If you continue in my Word, then are you my disciples indeed and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. For he that commits sin is a servant of sin and if the son shall make you free you shall be free indeed. As we abide in him and he in us, love leads the way so we can follow and is why he says if you love me keep my commandments... there is no other way we can follow him except through love.

Those living in their sins have not seen him or know him and cannot follow him because they do not love him. He that says he knows him and does not keep his commandments is a liar the truth is not in them. Many are called but few are chosen.

May God bless you

LoveGodForever · Sep 25, 2017

unobtrusive said:

Well presented Unobtrusive context is very important. God's Law is indeed the ministration of death because its purpose is only to reveal sin and righteousness. Sin is the transgression of God's Law and God's Law was given that all the world may become guilty before God because there is none righteous not one. All of our righteousness is as filthy rags before him who loves us. God's Law is the ministration of death because the penalty for sin is death which is the wages of sin. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law be the new ministration of walking by faith and not be sight that righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the flesh (sinful mind) but after the Spirit (Word of God). God bless you and thanks for sharing...

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