Regulative Principle of Worship

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Dino246

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The article references principles set down in the 1600's. Those principles are not Scripture, though they claim to be based on Scripture. Therefore they are tradition: man-made appendages of religion.

The regulative principle, in its essence, is no less restrictive than the Pharisaical understanding of the Law. Its adherents have merely adopted a different set of man-made rules. Christ came to set us free, not merely put us under a different form of slavery.
 
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Spokenpassage

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The article references principles set down in the 1600's. Those principles are not Scripture, though they claim to be based on Scripture. Therefore they are tradition: man-made appendages of religion.

The regulative principle, in its essence, is no less restrictive than the Pharisaical understanding of the Law. Its adherents have merely adopted a different set of man-made rules. Christ came to set us free, not merely put us under a different form of slavery.
Thank you for your opinion.
 
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Now, in many circles, images portraying of Jesus is permissible. Do any of you believe that pictures of the Lord are a violation of the second commandment or do you believe it is merely the direct worshipping (like praying to) the image that is forbidden by the second commandment?
 
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Laish

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The article references principles set down in the 1600's. Those principles are not Scripture, though they claim to be based on Scripture. Therefore they are tradition: man-made appendages of religion.

The regulative principle, in its essence, is no less restrictive than the Pharisaical understanding of the Law. Its adherents have merely adopted a different set of man-made rules. Christ came to set us free, not merely put us under a different form of slavery.
Well I did not get the ideal that the article promoted legalism,than it desired to restrain extreme liberty. Example let's sing and praise The LORD but not while dancing in the pews with snakes in our hands .
Also what is wrong with being a slave ?Romans 1 : 1 Paul,a slave of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle and singled out for God's good news- 2 which He promised long ago through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures.
Blessings
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sevenseas

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Regulative Principle of Worship is opposed to tradition...
did I just write one word and ask you to comment?

nope

you have also avoided my post wherein I briefly contrasted what regulatory worship suggests as opposed to what scripture states

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presidente

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What are your views on this subject? If you are curious as to what it is, please read this article:

Regulative Principle of Worship
It seems to me that many churches that claim to believe in this don't practice it. If we really did in church what the scriptures command then we would follow this, 'every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.'

We actually have 'commandments of the Lord' for church meetings that regulate speaking in tongues and interpretation and prophesying. The speakers are the membes of the congregation.

Why is it that 'regulative principle' discussions are on such things as what hymns to be sung congregationally in church, whether only psalters are appropriate, and issues related to the sermon? The actual passage that gives instructions on what do do in church has 'every one of you', not just 'the pastor' potentially offering a 'doctrine'-- not one long sermon.

I suppose we could take a regulative approach to the actual New Testament passages on how to have church, instead of ignoring it, assuming a one-sermon, clergy centered format, and then trying to argue from the Old Testament as to which version of our man-made idea of a church service is more Biblical.
 

hornetguy

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Now, in many circles, images portraying of Jesus is permissible. Do any of you believe that pictures of the Lord are a violation of the second commandment or do you believe it is merely the direct worshipping (like praying to) the image that is forbidden by the second commandment?
I wouldn't view the "representations" of Jesus to be any better, or worse than a person wearing a crucifix around their neck... as long as (like you stated) nobody is kneeling down and praying to that representation.

If it is there simply as a reminder, then there should be no problem with it....
 
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Spokenpassage

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I wouldn't view the "representations" of Jesus to be any better, or worse than a person wearing a crucifix around their neck... as long as (like you stated) nobody is kneeling down and praying to that representation.

If it is there simply as a reminder, then there should be no problem with it....
I am curious, though, why did God forbid also the making of the representation? What would you say?
 
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I am curious, though, why did God forbid also the making of the representation? What would you say?

Come on now. You know better than to do that. Simply read the next verse... 5, I think it is.
 
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Spokenpassage

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Come on now. You know better than to do that. Simply read the next verse... 5, I think it is.
So are two things forbidden, or just one?
 
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So are two things forbidden, or just one?
Read (observe) the sentence punctuation in the structure. How are the two linked (joined) together? Without resorting to going back to the original language (which takes a ton of study) that is the best way to figure out your question.
 
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Spokenpassage

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Read (observe) the sentence punctuation in the structure. How are the two linked (joined) together? Without resorting to going back to the original language (which takes a ton of study) that is the best way to figure out your question.
Yes, and I come to the conclusion that it is not only forbidden to worship, but to fashion any representation.
 
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Yes, and I come to the conclusion that it is not only forbidden to worship, but to fashion any representation.
Then that would be how to govern yourself accordingly... while, at the same time, not judging another who reads that creating art is actually honoring God.

THAT is the essence of Christ living.... NOT searching out laws and rules to dictate how we think others need to live their lives.
 
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BTW, I noticed you happen to have a depiction (representation) of the Disciples on your profile.
 
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Laish

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Yes, and I come to the conclusion that it is not only forbidden to worship, but to fashion any representation.
The second commandment is one that I have gone over and over in my mind. Concerning statues paintings,and the like . I understand never to bow down to one in worship or worship one period. I do look at the rest of scripture and read about the Ark of the Covalent how two cherubs are placed on top or on the curtain/ veil in the sanctuary. God dose not violate His own law . I know that . I just think that there is more to it than simple images. Much to pray about and scripture to meditate on to give a simple answer in my opinion. I believe there are brothers and sisters on both sides that are truly sincere in their positions .I believe both sides should show some charity in our treatment of opposing beliefs.
Blessings
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hornetguy

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Yes, and I come to the conclusion that it is not only forbidden to worship, but to fashion any representation.
It seems to me that the intent is to not make a representation for the purpose of worship...

You haven't said anything about a crucifix... do you view that in the same way?
 
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Spokenpassage

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Laish,

You are a good brother. Concerning the Ark, God never commanded himself to be depicted though. You know that it disfigured and dishonors his glory to represent him in such primitive and vain pictures. It seems as though Protestants have forgotten and have blended with Romish beliefs.

Anyways, we have our opinions. :)