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Try using the words of Christ to show that you can have eternal life without loving God more than sin.
Our that you can abide in Christ without loving/obeying Him.
One of the reasons Paul is so misunderstood, is because he was writing to people who already did love Christ more than their own sin and desired to be obedient to Him in everything. If they did not, Paul told them to kick them out
Our that you can abide in Christ without loving/obeying Him.
One of the reasons Paul is so misunderstood, is because he was writing to people who already did love Christ more than their own sin and desired to be obedient to Him in everything. If they did not, Paul told them to kick them out
We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles [SUP]16 [/SUP]know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in[SUP][d][/SUP] Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.[SUP]17 [/SUP]“But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! [SUP]18 [/SUP]If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker. Gal2:15-18
it's not that i don't know -- it's just that,
through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.
(Romans 8:2)
i have every reason to give glory and honor and praise to the King -- and absolutely no cause to accept any honor in myself.
it is not me who does the righteousness done by my hands, ore even chooses it - it's Christ in me, and His spirit in me that wills to work His goodness.
and beside all of this, don't you understand how that Jesus has atoned for you, redeemed you and brought you out of death and into life? this, and how He has caused my hand to work god instead of evil, and my mouth to bless His name, is something that every morning i thank Jah and praise Him for!
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Where is your evidence that these things are lacking in anyone on this thread? Its sounds like you want to brag about your obedience by bringing into question the obedience of others...nobody here accepts that you are in a position to teach us about how to put action to our faith and love and you have no reason to question anyone about there actions.
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Again, I am not bringing evidence against anyone.
I am only saying that apart from obeying and loving Christ, we have no salvation in Christ.
I guess the only people who could be called legalists are those who do all that Christ commands but do not do it out of love, but self interest (avoiding destruction). For they have gained nothing.
Or, people who follow commandments that are not from Christ.
I would never call anyone who acts out of love for Christ a legalist. They are just doing what comes naturally, obeying Christ
I am only saying that apart from obeying and loving Christ, we have no salvation in Christ.
I guess the only people who could be called legalists are those who do all that Christ commands but do not do it out of love, but self interest (avoiding destruction). For they have gained nothing.
Or, people who follow commandments that are not from Christ.
I would never call anyone who acts out of love for Christ a legalist. They are just doing what comes naturally, obeying Christ
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Probably not nearly as many as there should be, but don't worry about the people who fall short.
We encourage them and strengthen them in their understanding of love and obedience.
We cannot use them as justification for our own failings.
We just keep picking up our cross day by day and submit ourselves to the Holy Spirit so that the work which was started in us continues until the day of Christ. If we do not deny ourselves and pick up our cross, we are not following Christ any longer
If we give up the good fight, we give up our life.
The focus and goal is to become love in all things, towards everyone in every circumstance.
Just like our Father.
We encourage them and strengthen them in their understanding of love and obedience.
We cannot use them as justification for our own failings.
We just keep picking up our cross day by day and submit ourselves to the Holy Spirit so that the work which was started in us continues until the day of Christ. If we do not deny ourselves and pick up our cross, we are not following Christ any longer
If we give up the good fight, we give up our life.
The focus and goal is to become love in all things, towards everyone in every circumstance.
Just like our Father.
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Really??? Have you read 1 & 2 Corinthians? Galatians? The Corinthian church was embroiled in idolatry, pagan practices they tried to give a Christian flavor, pride, self-righteousness ...
Being disingenuous about God's word does nothing to add to your argument. Especially here:
Tell me, W/E, how many times did he say that? Never mind, I'll tell you: ONCE! The young Corinthian man in 1 Corinthians 5:2-7. And what happened to him, W/E? Never mind, I'll tell you that, too: They received him back into the church after taking Paul's advice! Why? Because he confessed his sin and apologized for the offense, asking their forgiveness. He didn't lose his salvation, he responded to chastisement, as Christ and Paul both taught.
Keep posting stuff like this, you keep proving you don't understand God's word, brother, which means you need to do some serious personal inventory. I pray you will do so.
Being disingenuous about God's word does nothing to add to your argument. Especially here:
Tell me, W/E, how many times did he say that? Never mind, I'll tell you: ONCE! The young Corinthian man in 1 Corinthians 5:2-7. And what happened to him, W/E? Never mind, I'll tell you that, too: They received him back into the church after taking Paul's advice! Why? Because he confessed his sin and apologized for the offense, asking their forgiveness. He didn't lose his salvation, he responded to chastisement, as Christ and Paul both taught.
Keep posting stuff like this, you keep proving you don't understand God's word, brother, which means you need to do some serious personal inventory. I pray you will do so.