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stonesoffire

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And God the Father, who does not desire sacrifice nor take delight in burnt offerings will give His stamp of approval to such during this millennial reign ... as a "memorial" to Jesus Christ our Saviour, who Himself will be in their very presence ? A "memorial" will take place when He being remembered stands amongst them ? And Jesus Christ, who is now our High Priest will relinquish His priestly sacrificial duties to those of the lineage of Zadok (Ezekiel 44:15) ? I can't think of a greater abomination than this. What a disaster ... and sorry mess.
Building the temple could be separate from the first sacrifice, right? I can't see Father allowing a sacrifice of blood in the temple of the Jews either. But, might be wrong. I do believe it will be built though and must be for a millennial reign on earth and for Jesus to sit on the throne of David.
 

Timeline

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Matt 5:22 New American Standard Bible
"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

This kinda proves that "he who slanders" is far more guilty than the one slandered, yes?

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth

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The huge problem with this view is the fact that any possible Jewish temple in Jerusalem will not be the temple of God.

Because the old temples, sacrifices, priesthood etc are done. See the letter to Hebrews.
Except for the fact that Paul wrote 2nd Thessalonians well after the resurrection of JESUS so...your premise is seriously flawed!

AND what view did I put forth...all I did was quote scripture.....seems you guys are dead set on ignoring everything the bible has to say....I don't recall giving a view!

HERE is MY QUOTE....POINT OUT MY VIEW

I used to get the Jerusalem Post and the had a weekly article concerning this....remember reading about a Red Heifer being bred for sacrifice......interesting concept...in Daniel--->He shall plant his tabernacle between the seas and there he shall come to his end....and 2nd Thessalonians....The man of sin...who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God....
 
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trofimus

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Except for the fact that Paul wrote 2nd Thessalonians well after the resurrection of JESUS so...your premise is seriously flawed!

AND what view did I put forth...all I did was quote scripture.....seems you guys are dead set on ignoring everything the bible has to say....I don't recall giving a view!

HERE is MY QUOTE....POINT OUT MY VIEW

I used to get the Jerusalem Post and the had a weekly article concerning this....remember reading about a Red Heifer being bred for sacrifice......interesting concept...in Daniel--->He shall plant his tabernacle between the seas and there he shall come to his end....and 2nd Thessalonians....The man of sin...who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God....
Except for the fact? No, this is the fact.

Paul could not mean the physical Jewish temple, because in the time he was writing the letter, God was not in temples anymore.
 
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In this meaning also every mosque is "his" house.

But I do not think it matches the use of Paul when he says "the temple of God".
Every house is constructed by a human being, but he who constructed all things is God.

God is the maker of all things. Hebrews 11:10 Demiourgos.

He is the man who drew up the plans, as well as built everything.

Exodus 25:9 9 According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.

pattern - tabniyth = construction plans

Hebrews 8 :5
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
 

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Really, God has done his good work. The Houses of Israel and Judah have been reconciled by Christ.

The problem is that the Jews have put themselves under the Law.

The New Covenant is crystal clear that the Old Covenant Law that the sins of the Father can be visited on the son is no longer in force.

Jeremiah 31

29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.

There is no way one can impose the 70th week now. The 70 week has gone, and with it the Old Covenant. God has no ancestral beef any more.

He simply asks The Church (Israel proper) to extend mercy to the non-believing Judaistic element.
this is most certainly true.
 
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Except for the fact? No, this is the fact.

Paul could not mean the physical Jewish temple, because in the time he was writing the letter, God was not in temples anymore.
GO BACK and answer my questions and quit being a politician.....YOU SAID MY VIEW was flawed....WHAT VIEW deceiver!

AND PAUL was INSPIRED and wrote AFTER JESUS was resurrected and ASCENDED...IT IS YOUR VIEW that denies the VERBIAGE and INSPIRATION of 2nd THESSALONIANS which makes your credibility ZERO!
 

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For those of you who have doubts about whether or not Israel is going to build their temple, I would suggest a visit to The Temple Institute website and which is physically located in Jerusalem. On this site you will find that the Sanhedrin has been reassembled for some years now, the priestly garments have been prepared according to the specifications written in the law, the ephod with the twelve stones, all of the furniture and articles of the temple, the table of the show bread, the oil lamps, trumpets, etc., etc., have all been prepared for the coming third temple.

The last seven years of the seventy sevens that was decreed upon Israel is going to be fulfilled and Israel's preparation is physical proof of this. Visit the site at https://www.templeinstitute.org/
This group has been around since the mid 80's. Not sure their presence anywhere is a sign of anything.
 
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For those of you who have doubts about whether or not Israel is going to build their temple, I would suggest a visit to The Temple Institute website and which is physically located in Jerusalem. On this site you will find that the Sanhedrin has been reassembled for some years now, the priestly garments have been prepared according to the specifications written in the law, the ephod with the twelve stones, all of the furniture and articles of the temple, the table of the show bread, the oil lamps, trumpets, etc., etc., have all been prepared for the coming third temple.
I would suggest we must be careful in what we do with the flesh of a Jew.

As a new creation (Christians) we are informed to know no man after the flesh.

To begin with God is no respecter of persons, never was never, will be. The corrupted flesh of a Jew is not different than the corrupted flesh of a Gentile.

I think Acts 15 bears witness to the work of Christ’s faith working in them to both will and do His good pleasure. It I believe shows us no difference, nothing.

And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, “even as he did” unto us; And put no difference between us and them”, purifying “their” hearts by faith. Act 15:9

No one doubts that those unbelievers will construct another temple. It just proves they believe Christ has not come in the flesh and would be looking for another Jesus, another gospel. It would seem the un believing Jew could be represented in 2 John?

2John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that “Jesus Christ” is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an “antichrist”.


The time of reformation had come; the veil was rent indicating He had come in the flesh. The veil being rent indicated the end of temple life that was previously used for a time period to represent the suffering of Christ beforehand and the glory that did follow (the renting of the veil , and the first resurrection of the Old testament saints which we would enter today (to absent of the flesh is to be present with Christ) ,fast a sleep . It was used as a parable (a figure) of the true, not seen, the eternal.

As the gospel was preached beforehand, today we look back to the same gospel .

Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1Pe 1:11

The reformation.

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. Heb 9:8


By faith we look at the things not seen (eternal). This work of God that he works in them is by the same Spirit of the faith, of Christ that works in us, it also worked in them purifying their hearts according to that work of faith. as a labor of His love.

Looking for Christ, the Holy Spirit of God to put on corrupted sinful flesh again. I would offer, to me it would be like crucifying Him over and over to public shame, as if one demonstration of Him pouring out His Spirit was not enough. To them the vail remains. 2 Corinthians 14 below indicates what is happening even today.

They need the gospel just as any other persons.

Not only Moses’ face was veiled, but his people’s minds and understanding were veiled and blinded too. Even now when the Scripture is read it seems as though Jewish hearts and minds are covered by a thick veil, because they cannot see and understand the real meaning of the Scriptures. For this veil of misunderstanding can be removed only by “believing in Christ”. Yes, even today when they read Moses’ writings their hearts are blind and they think that obeying the Ten Commandments is the way to be saved. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord from his sins, then the veil is taken away. The Lord is the Spirit who gives them life, and where he is there is freedom from trying to be saved by keeping the laws of God. But we Christians have no veil over our faces; we can be mirrors that brightly reflect the glory of the Lord. And as the Spirit of the Lord works within us, we become more and more like him. 2 Corinthians 3:14-18

Christ will come on the last day, the same day as the judgment. There will be no need for a future reign on earth .It will vanish on the last day, the seventh trumpet , and the new unorrupted heaven and earth will appear.

John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in "the resurrection" at the last day.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


The final trumpet on the same day of the second resurrection. This is when all believers will receive their new incorruptible bodies.

Last day. last trump

1Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised "incorruptible", and we shall be changed.
 

trofimus

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GO BACK and answer my questions and quit being a politician.....YOU SAID MY VIEW was flawed....WHAT VIEW deceiver!

AND PAUL was INSPIRED and wrote AFTER JESUS was resurrected and ASCENDED...IT IS YOUR VIEW that denies the VERBIAGE and INSPIRATION of 2nd THESSALONIANS which makes your credibility ZERO!
Pleace, calm down and stop calling me names, thank you.

Again, for you:

Your view it is the physical building is wrong, because the physical building in Jerusalem can not be the temple of God.
 
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Pleace, calm down and stop calling me names, thank you.

Again, for you:

Your view it is the physical building is wrong, because the physical building in Jerusalem can not be the temple of God.
I never gave a view...go back and read...ALL I DID was quote two scriptures......

HERE is MY QUOTE....POINT OUT MY VIEW

I used to get the Jerusalem Post and the had a weekly article concerning this....remember reading about a Red Heifer being bred for sacrifice......interesting concept...in Daniel--->He shall plant his tabernacle between the seas and there he shall come to his end....and 2nd Thessalonians....The man of sin...who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God....
 

Chester

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GO BACK and answer my questions and quit being a politician.....YOU SAID MY VIEW was flawed....WHAT VIEW deceiver!

AND PAUL was INSPIRED and wrote AFTER JESUS was resurrected and ASCENDED...IT IS YOUR VIEW that denies the VERBIAGE and INSPIRATION of 2nd THESSALONIANS which makes your credibility ZERO!
Oh-uh! OUCH! BANG!

If someone does not agree with the other's interpretation - does that mean they do not believe in the inspiration of Scripture??

"Deceiver" !!!!! - Really?
 

Ahwatukee

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This group has been around since the mid 80's. Not sure their presence anywhere is a sign of anything.
Hello JimmieD,

It demonstrates Israel's resolve to build their temple. After the six day war, Moshe Dyane relinquished control of the temple mount to Islam. This was no coincidence, but was God's doing in order to keep Israel from building the temple before the proper time, otherwise if Israel had control of the mount they would have already built it. It will be built according to scripture when that ruler, the man of lawlessness, is revealed by establishing that seven year covenant with Israel, which will then allow them to build the temple in fulfillment of that last seven years.

For the first 3 1/2 years of that seven year period, Israel will once again be making offerings and sacrifices. In the middle of the seven is when that man of lawlessness, the antichrist, will put a stop to the sacrifices, set up the abomination in the holy place and stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God, which is what causes the desolation (emptying of Jerusalem) -(Dan.9:27, Matt.24:15-21, 2 Thes.2:4, Rev.12:6,14, 13:14-15)

The fact that The Temple Institute has reconvened the Sanhedrin, has prepared the articles for temple, the furniture, the priests garments and their teaching of their priests for proper sacrifice and much more, demonstrates that they are determined to build their temple. And it will happen when that antichrist is revealed. But prior to that, the church must be gathered.

In the book of Daniel, it is stated that in the last days that "knowledge will be increased," which this generation is and has been witnessing and is taking place exponentially. For in addition to what Israel is doing, we also have the technology for chip implants under the skin of the hand, with people already being implanted. The very fact that this technology even exists demonstrates the truth and accuracy of God's word.

My point in all of this is, these things are related to the events that are to take place after the church is gone. Therefore, if we can see the stage being set for those things, then how close are we to the Lord appearing and the gathering His church which must take place first?
 
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Oh-uh! OUCH! BANG!

If someone does not agree with the other's interpretation - does that mean they do not believe in the inspiration of Scripture??

"Deceiver" !!!!! - Really?
Exactly...go back and read all that was written...all I did was post two verses with NO VIEW...he come back hammering my VIEW which I did not post and now THREE TIMES I have said show me MY VIEW that you accuse me of....HERE you try...ANYONE TRY SHOW ME WHERE I STATED MY VIEW in THE FOLLOWING QUOTE

HERE is MY QUOTE....POINT OUT MY VIEW

I used to get the Jerusalem Post and the had a weekly article concerning this....remember reading about a Red Heifer being bred for sacrifice......interesting concept...in Daniel--->He shall plant his tabernacle between the seas and there he shall come to his end....and 2nd Thessalonians....The man of sin...who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God....

I AM TIRED of PEOPLE saying, implying, twisting and embellishing things that are said or not said....

SHOW MY VIEW FROM THE FOLLOWING QUOTE

HERE is MY QUOTE....POINT OUT MY VIEW

I used to get the Jerusalem Post and the had a weekly article concerning this....remember reading about a Red Heifer being bred for sacrifice......interesting concept...in Daniel--->He shall plant his tabernacle between the seas and there he shall come to his end....and 2nd Thessalonians....The man of sin...who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God....
 
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Exactly...go back and read all that was written...all I did was post two verses with NO VIEW...he come back hammering my VIEW which I did not post and now THREE TIMES I have said show me MY VIEW that you accuse me of....HERE you try...ANYONE TRY SHOW ME WHERE I STATED MY VIEW in THE FOLLOWING QUOTE

HERE is MY QUOTE....POINT OUT MY VIEW

I used to get the Jerusalem Post and the had a weekly article concerning this....remember reading about a Red Heifer being bred for sacrifice......interesting concept...in Daniel--->He shall plant his tabernacle between the seas and there he shall come to his end....and 2nd Thessalonians....The man of sin...who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God....

I AM TIRED of PEOPLE saying, implying, twisting and embellishing things that are said or not said....

SHOW MY VIEW FROM THE FOLLOWING QUOTE

HERE is MY QUOTE....POINT OUT MY VIEW

I used to get the Jerusalem Post and the had a weekly article concerning this....remember reading about a Red Heifer being bred for sacrifice......interesting concept...in Daniel--->He shall plant his tabernacle between the seas and there he shall come to his end....and 2nd Thessalonians....The man of sin...who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God....
When I read it I assumed the red heifer was being bred to be sacrificed in the Daniel tabernacle and the man of sin was gonna sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God. I'm sure that's not what you intended though lol.
 
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When I read it I assumed the red heifer was being bred to be sacrificed in the Daniel tabernacle and the man of sin was gonna sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God. I'm sure that's not what you intended though lol.
I was just making a generalized observation about things I had seen in the Jerusalem post.....all the way back in 95 they were posting articles about things being made, training etc........MY personal VIEW WHICH I AM NOW STATING is.....if there is going to be something, it may be similar to the tabernacle that Moses used....based upon the fact that when you get down to it....the only instructions they really have to copy and or follow are the instructions found in the OT.....NOT SAYING they will or will not build a temple.....they have for sure PREPARED to do such....what happens is waiting to be seen!
 
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I was just making a generalized observation about things I had seen in the Jerusalem post.....all the way back in 95 they were posting articles about things being made, training etc........MY personal VIEW WHICH I AM NOW STATING is.....if there is going to be something, it may be similar to the tabernacle that Moses used....based upon the fact that when you get down to it....the only instructions they really have to copy and or follow are the instructions found in the OT.....NOT SAYING they will or will not build a temple.....they have for sure PREPARED to do such....what happens is waiting to be seen!
If it's not going to be rebuilt, they have gone to extreme lengths to make it seem like it will be BUT that may be part of the great deception. History is playing out like a dispensational script and it's either true or it's a deception, we will have to wait and see.
 
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If it's not going to be rebuilt, they have gone to extreme lengths to make it seem like it will be BUT that may be part of the great deception. History is playing out like a dispensational script and it's either true or it's a deception, we will have to wait and see.

I have always wondered if they would start sacrificing again seeing how they rejected Christ and are still LOOKING for their Messiah......and YES indeed they have went through a lot of preparation.....maybe the statement "THE TEMPLE of GOD" is more indicative of a building dedicated unto GOD, yet in all application is used in the deception and is only called the TEMPLE of GOD.....

The time is coming when they that are killing you will be thinking they are doing GOD service......obviously the JEWS thought they were doing GOD service by killing the apostles and JESUS......and even today ISLAM believes it is doing GOD service when it kills the infidels........just thinking out loud!
 

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I thought they wouldn't dare recreate the arc of the covenant, and if God doesn't give them the arc then surely that is a sign unto them that they do not have God's blessing in rebuilding the temple.

Quick Google search reveals from their website that they already know where the arc is and that it is still there.

I want to call Bologna. Surely the Templar Knights knew it was beneath Solomon's Temple and surely they took it away. However, they might give it back under certain conditions.
 

stonesoffire

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Does the scripture say this man of sin will stand in the holy place? That's not the Holy of Holies. I see Islam as the opposite spirit..anti-christ. So if this man of sin would stand in their own mosque declaring himself to be god? I probably am way off but the thought did occur to me.

Probably should just read the thread since I haven't study end time events.