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Hello KJV1611,
Just FYI, the "He" in the verse cannot be confirming and existing covenant and that because the decree was for seventy seven year periods. Sixty-nine of those were fulfilled when the Messiah was cut off. Now there remains one seven year period, which is what that ruler, the antichrist, is going to establish. He's the one who initiates that last seven years by making his covenant with Israel. To suggest that he is confirming an existing covenant would infer that it is longer the seven years.
The word "gabar" simply means "strong, mighty." It says nothing about confirming an already existing covenant. He is the one who will be making the covenant. Here is how the NLT translates it:
"The ruler will make a treaty with the people for a period of one set of seven, but after half this time, he will put an end to the sacrifices and offerings. And as a climax to all his terrible deeds, he will set up a sacrilegious object that causes desecration, until the fate decreed for this defiler is finally poured out on him."
Many of the translations have it as "he will make."
Just FYI, the "He" in the verse cannot be confirming and existing covenant and that because the decree was for seventy seven year periods. Sixty-nine of those were fulfilled when the Messiah was cut off. Now there remains one seven year period, which is what that ruler, the antichrist, is going to establish. He's the one who initiates that last seven years by making his covenant with Israel. To suggest that he is confirming an existing covenant would infer that it is longer the seven years.
The word "gabar" simply means "strong, mighty." It says nothing about confirming an already existing covenant. He is the one who will be making the covenant. Here is how the NLT translates it:
"The ruler will make a treaty with the people for a period of one set of seven, but after half this time, he will put an end to the sacrifices and offerings. And as a climax to all his terrible deeds, he will set up a sacrilegious object that causes desecration, until the fate decreed for this defiler is finally poured out on him."
Many of the translations have it as "he will make."
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Neither Jews, Christians or anyone else for that matter have even the slightest clue as to why God created Temples in the first place...
Until this world is knee deep in Transhumanist/Luciferian MADNESS will people begin to finally wake up.
THIRD TEMPLE = TRANSHUMANISM
Creating another Temple is nothing but a 'ribbon cutting ceremony' to underscore what is already happening now in the world of Genetic Engineering.
The evolution of the Human Race into so called 'Gods' is what rebuilding the Temple means... period.
Wake up people, lest you begin promoting Transhumanism yourselves as I already see happening on this forum.
Revelation 13:14
"And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live"
^^^
I've seen several of you promote the bolded already.
Not a single one of you so called 'Christians' even notice it.
Shame on you all.
Until this world is knee deep in Transhumanist/Luciferian MADNESS will people begin to finally wake up.
THIRD TEMPLE = TRANSHUMANISM
Creating another Temple is nothing but a 'ribbon cutting ceremony' to underscore what is already happening now in the world of Genetic Engineering.
The evolution of the Human Race into so called 'Gods' is what rebuilding the Temple means... period.
Wake up people, lest you begin promoting Transhumanism yourselves as I already see happening on this forum.
Revelation 13:14
"And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live"
^^^
I've seen several of you promote the bolded already.
Not a single one of you so called 'Christians' even notice it.
Shame on you all.
I hope not.
They are Lucifer-ion. Demonic
Some translations have decided to change the bible so as to make it appear to agree with the popular teaching about the 70th week being 7 years of tribulation. They are liars. The scriptures do not say he will make a covenant with the many. The scriptures say that he will confirm the covenant with the many. You cannot confirm a covenant that is not already there. Look up the original words, it was CONFIRM THE COVENANT...check it out please. This is easy to prove if you really want to know the truth.
I find your post rather strange. God destroys the Temple in AD70. The Jews are scattered around the world for over 2000 years. During that time some but by no means all accept Christ as Messiah and savior. Israel with a small proportion of the worlds Jewish population return to the land in unbelief. God then with the help of Antichrist rebuilds the Temple, starts
up the Sacrificial system again which was ended by Christs death and Resurrection as a means of converting Israel. I have no doubt that some in Israel would want a rebuilt Temple but the question is does God want it having destroyed the previous one? How does another Temple and all that goes with it bring them to Christ?
up the Sacrificial system again which was ended by Christs death and Resurrection as a means of converting Israel. I have no doubt that some in Israel would want a rebuilt Temple but the question is does God want it having destroyed the previous one? How does another Temple and all that goes with it bring them to Christ?
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Hello tanakh,
I wouldn't say "with the help of the Antichirst" but by God's design. As an example, consider the following:
"The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled."
According to the scripture above, God is going to put it into the hearts of the beast and the ten kings to accomplish his purpose by destroying the woman, that city that sits on seven hills. Now, apply the same meaning to the anitchrist making it possible for Israel to build here temple in order to fulfill God's purpose. And his purpose for the future temple being built, will be to pick up where he left off with Israel, sacrifices and all, in completion of that last seven years of the seventy sevens.
Keep in mind that, God is going to be dealing with the nation Israel and not the church who understand that animal sacrifices were made obsolete by Christ's perfect sacrifice. God is going to be dealing with Israel who did not recognize Jesus as their Messiah and who still consider themselves to be under the covenant of the law give through Moses.
Israel did not recognize Christ as their Messiah and so they are still waiting for is His first appearing. When that anichrist makes that seven year covenant with Israel allowing them to build their temple, they will receive him as Messiah. But, according to Dan.9:27, in the middle of that seven years, he will cause the sacrifices and offerings to cease and will set up that abomination in the holy place. At that time and for that reason, Israel will know that he is not their Messiah, which is what will cause the desolation, which is Israel fleeing into the wilderness to that place prepared for her by God. Sometime during that last 3 1/2 years, the people of Israel are going to say, "blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord."
That purpose of that last seven years will be to fulfill the following according to the decree in Dan.9:24, which says:
"Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place."
I wouldn't say "with the help of the Antichirst" but by God's design. As an example, consider the following:
"The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled."
According to the scripture above, God is going to put it into the hearts of the beast and the ten kings to accomplish his purpose by destroying the woman, that city that sits on seven hills. Now, apply the same meaning to the anitchrist making it possible for Israel to build here temple in order to fulfill God's purpose. And his purpose for the future temple being built, will be to pick up where he left off with Israel, sacrifices and all, in completion of that last seven years of the seventy sevens.
Keep in mind that, God is going to be dealing with the nation Israel and not the church who understand that animal sacrifices were made obsolete by Christ's perfect sacrifice. God is going to be dealing with Israel who did not recognize Jesus as their Messiah and who still consider themselves to be under the covenant of the law give through Moses.
Israel did not recognize Christ as their Messiah and so they are still waiting for is His first appearing. When that anichrist makes that seven year covenant with Israel allowing them to build their temple, they will receive him as Messiah. But, according to Dan.9:27, in the middle of that seven years, he will cause the sacrifices and offerings to cease and will set up that abomination in the holy place. At that time and for that reason, Israel will know that he is not their Messiah, which is what will cause the desolation, which is Israel fleeing into the wilderness to that place prepared for her by God. Sometime during that last 3 1/2 years, the people of Israel are going to say, "blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord."
That purpose of that last seven years will be to fulfill the following according to the decree in Dan.9:24, which says:
"Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place."
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I agree with A-e in that respect; personally I think there will be a rebuilt temple. I think they will try and reinstitute the Levitical system. (Apostate Judaism actually has been looking for the Jewish Messiah for 2000 years, so I expect them also to install their Messiah = King Of Judah). I think Jesus will destroy it by the 'brightness of his coming.' Strangely, Jesus' second coming is almost identical to a nuclear warhead - as lightning from the East to the West.
How it all pans out I have no idea. All I know is that I expect to see some people try and revert to Levitical law; sadly I expect to see Christians caught up in the delusion, Hebrew Roots Movement and all that, and start partaking as if a bit of Schmoozing and Old Testament Kitsch will add to their righteousness.
If I am wrong, I am wrong. Endtimes eschatology is quite confusing.
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (APOSTASY) first, and that man of sin (Jewish Messiah?) be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God (rebuilt Temple?), shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? (LUKE18)
6 And now ye know what withholdeth (Church mandated for 2000 years?) that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity (anti-Christ belief system = Pharisaism) doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (4th beast control of Jerusalem?)
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work
How it all pans out I have no idea. All I know is that I expect to see some people try and revert to Levitical law; sadly I expect to see Christians caught up in the delusion, Hebrew Roots Movement and all that, and start partaking as if a bit of Schmoozing and Old Testament Kitsch will add to their righteousness.
If I am wrong, I am wrong. Endtimes eschatology is quite confusing.
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (APOSTASY) first, and that man of sin (Jewish Messiah?) be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God (rebuilt Temple?), shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? (LUKE18)
6 And now ye know what withholdeth (Church mandated for 2000 years?) that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity (anti-Christ belief system = Pharisaism) doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. (4th beast control of Jerusalem?)
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work
You are right. The KJV and NIV (1984 edition), says CONFIRM. The RSV says MAKE there is a world of difference. I wonder how many other translations use make in the text. I cant read Hebrew but I know there are people on site who can. It would be interesting to have an unbiased confirmation as to which word the Hebrew text uses.
samuel23,
The scripture states that seventy 'sevens' are decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem.
Seven 'sevens' = Restore and rebuild Jerusalem (7x7 = 49 years)
Sixty-two 'sevens = Messiah cut off at the end of sixty-two 'sevens' = 7 X 62 = 69 sevens
There is only one seven year period left of the decree to be fulfilled. When that antichrist comes, he will establish that seven year covenant and just as scripture states, in the middle (3 1/2 years later) will set up that abomination. Both Dan.7:25 and Rev.13:5, are referring to that last 3 1/2 years when the antichrist/beast will be given authority over the saints.
The scripture is not saying that the ruler is going to confirm and already existing agreement. You are reading that into the scritpure. That ruler, the antichrist, is the one who initiates that last seven year period. Again, since there is only one seven year period left, it cannot be any longer than that, which is what you are doing by claiming that he is confirming an already existing agreement.
The scripture states that seventy 'sevens' are decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem.
Seven 'sevens' = Restore and rebuild Jerusalem (7x7 = 49 years)
Sixty-two 'sevens = Messiah cut off at the end of sixty-two 'sevens' = 7 X 62 = 69 sevens
There is only one seven year period left of the decree to be fulfilled. When that antichrist comes, he will establish that seven year covenant and just as scripture states, in the middle (3 1/2 years later) will set up that abomination. Both Dan.7:25 and Rev.13:5, are referring to that last 3 1/2 years when the antichrist/beast will be given authority over the saints.
The scripture is not saying that the ruler is going to confirm and already existing agreement. You are reading that into the scritpure. That ruler, the antichrist, is the one who initiates that last seven year period. Again, since there is only one seven year period left, it cannot be any longer than that, which is what you are doing by claiming that he is confirming an already existing agreement.
The word gabar tranlated as confirm, is defined as "prevailed." It does not imply that the "He" of the verse is confirming an already existing covenant. I would say that what you are accusing me of is exactly what you are doing in order to support your claim that the seventy sevens of Daniel have already been completed. Below is a list of the major translations. If you'll notice, most of the translations have the "He" of the verse as the one who is "making" the covenant.
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The ruler will make a treaty with the people for a period of one set of seven, but after half this time, he will put an end to the sacrifices and offerings. And as a climax to all his terrible deeds, he will set up a sacrilegious object that causes desecration, until the fate decreed for this defiler is finally poured out on him."
And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”
"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator."
He will make a binding covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he will suspend both the sacrifice and grain offerings. Destructive people will cause desolation on the pinnacle until it is complete and what has been decreed is poured out on the desolator.'"
He will confirm a covenant with many for one week. But in the middle of that week he will bring sacrifices and offerings to a halt. On the wing of abominations will come one who destroys, until the decreed end is poured out on the one who destroys."
He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who destroys, and even until a complete destruction, until the decreed end is poured out on the one who destroys."
He will confirm his promise with many for one set of seven time periods. In the middle of the seven time periods, he will stop the sacrifices and food offerings. This will happen along with disgusting things that cause destruction until [those time periods] come to an end. It has been determined that this will happen to those who destroy [the city]."
And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment; and that until the extermination wholly determined be poured out upon that which causeth appalment.'
“And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.”
In one week (they are now seventy) he shall confirm the covenant by many: and at the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and because of the many abominations, desolation shall come, even until complete destruction shall be poured out upon the abominable people.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate.
And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations'shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fall: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and ihe desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end.
And he shall confirm a covenant with the many [for] one week; and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and because of the protection of abominations [there shall be] a desolator, even until that the consumption and what is determined shall be poured out upon the desolate.
And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and for the half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the consummation, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolator.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and on the wing of abominations [shall come] one who makes desolate; and even to the full end, and that determined, shall [wrath] be poured out on the desolate.
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He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."The ruler will make a treaty with the people for a period of one set of seven, but after half this time, he will put an end to the sacrifices and offerings. And as a climax to all his terrible deeds, he will set up a sacrilegious object that causes desecration, until the fate decreed for this defiler is finally poured out on him."
And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”
"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator."
He will make a binding covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he will suspend both the sacrifice and grain offerings. Destructive people will cause desolation on the pinnacle until it is complete and what has been decreed is poured out on the desolator.'"
He will confirm a covenant with many for one week. But in the middle of that week he will bring sacrifices and offerings to a halt. On the wing of abominations will come one who destroys, until the decreed end is poured out on the one who destroys."
He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who destroys, and even until a complete destruction, until the decreed end is poured out on the one who destroys."
He will confirm his promise with many for one set of seven time periods. In the middle of the seven time periods, he will stop the sacrifices and food offerings. This will happen along with disgusting things that cause destruction until [those time periods] come to an end. It has been determined that this will happen to those who destroy [the city]."
And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment; and that until the extermination wholly determined be poured out upon that which causeth appalment.'
“And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.”
In one week (they are now seventy) he shall confirm the covenant by many: and at the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and because of the many abominations, desolation shall come, even until complete destruction shall be poured out upon the abominable people.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate.
And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations'shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fall: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and ihe desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end.
And he shall confirm a covenant with the many [for] one week; and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and because of the protection of abominations [there shall be] a desolator, even until that the consumption and what is determined shall be poured out upon the desolate.
And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and for the half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the consummation, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolator.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and on the wing of abominations [shall come] one who makes desolate; and even to the full end, and that determined, shall [wrath] be poured out on the desolate.
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For you, who are interested, here is the place from the LXX, the Bible used by the apostles and the first church:
24 Seventy weeks have been determined upon thy people, and upon the holy city, for sin to be ended, and to seal up transgressions, and to blot out the iniquities, and to make atonement for iniquities, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal the vision and the prophet, and to anoint the Most Holy.
25 And thou shalt know and understand, that from the going forth of the command for the answer and for the building of Jerusalem until Christ the prince there shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks; and then the time shall return, and the street shall be built, and the wall, and the times shall be exhausted.
26 And after the sixty-two weeks, the anointed one shall be destroyed, and there is no judgment in him: and he shall destroy the city and the sanctuary with the prince that is coming: they shall be cut off with a flood, and to the end of the war which is rapidly completed he shall appoint the city to desolations.
27 And one week shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation.
24 Seventy weeks have been determined upon thy people, and upon the holy city, for sin to be ended, and to seal up transgressions, and to blot out the iniquities, and to make atonement for iniquities, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal the vision and the prophet, and to anoint the Most Holy.
25 And thou shalt know and understand, that from the going forth of the command for the answer and for the building of Jerusalem until Christ the prince there shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks; and then the time shall return, and the street shall be built, and the wall, and the times shall be exhausted.
26 And after the sixty-two weeks, the anointed one shall be destroyed, and there is no judgment in him: and he shall destroy the city and the sanctuary with the prince that is coming: they shall be cut off with a flood, and to the end of the war which is rapidly completed he shall appoint the city to desolations.
27 And one week shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation.
The translation of NETS:
And after seven and seventy and sixty-two weeks, an anointing will be removed and will not be. And a king of nations will demolish the
city and the sanctuary along with the anointed one, and his consummation will come with wrath even until the time of consummation. He will be attacked through war.
27 And the covenant will prevail for many, and it will return again and be rebuilt broad and long. And at the consummation of times [even after seven years and seventy times and sixty-two times] [until the time of the consummation of the war even desolation will be removed] [when the covenant prevails for many weeks]. And in half of the week the sacrifice and the libation will cease, and in the temple there ill be an abomination of desolations until the consummation of a season, and a consummation will be given for the desolation.”
From the Old Greek
And after seven and seventy and sixty-two weeks, an anointing will be removed and will not be. And a king of nations will demolish the
city and the sanctuary along with the anointed one, and his consummation will come with wrath even until the time of consummation. He will be attacked through war.
27 And the covenant will prevail for many, and it will return again and be rebuilt broad and long. And at the consummation of times [even after seven years and seventy times and sixty-two times] [until the time of the consummation of the war even desolation will be removed] [when the covenant prevails for many weeks]. And in half of the week the sacrifice and the libation will cease, and in the temple there ill be an abomination of desolations until the consummation of a season, and a consummation will be given for the desolation.”
From the Old Greek
Ahwa; You can get out of Dan 9:27 what you will, and I will get out of it what it appears to say to me, however let us not CHANGE the word of God. I have studied Daniel 9:27 extensively and it says HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH THE MANY. I am well aware that a few folks have decided to actually change the bible in this place in order to make it appear to agree with a popular teaching. That is called cheating and will be judged by God. If you can get, the Antichrist makes a covenant with Israel, from, he shall confirm the covenant with the many, that is your business. I can't, it appears impossible to me to confirm something that does not already exist.