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stonesoffire

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By the way...not suggesting that the mosque would be a holy place. The site where the dome of rock stands is on the Holy place.
 
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Does the scripture say this man of sin will stand in the holy place? That's not the Holy of Holies. I see Islam as the opposite spirit..anti-christ. So if this man of sin would stand in their own mosque declaring himself to be god? I probably am way off but the thought did occur to me.

Probably should just read the thread since I haven't study end time events.
I am not going to discredit this view....it is my personal belief that Islam will be the religion of the man of sin...and ALLAH will be the god pointed to.
 
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pottersclay

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​. Hornets nest.
 
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It makes more sense to me.
well....my view history will reveal this....

Horus in Egypt, is Bel in Assyria, is Marduke in Babylon, is Merodach in Persia, is Jupiter in Greece, is Zeus in Rome, is ALLAH at the end of the age and ALL are Satan attempting to be worshipped in a man as God....God hindered it because it was not yet time.....

Jesus said the throne of Satan was located at Pergamos.....what was located at Pergamos....the throne of Zeus
 

stonesoffire

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The last article I read about the rebuilding of the temple was that they were considering letting the dome of rock or the mosque (have forgotten which) stand, and build a temple beside this place, along with some kind of Christian Church.
 
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I have always wondered if they would start sacrificing again seeing how they rejected Christ and are still LOOKING for their Messiah......and YES indeed they have went through a lot of preparation.....maybe the statement "THE TEMPLE of GOD" is more indicative of a building dedicated unto GOD, yet in all application is used in the deception and is only called the TEMPLE of GOD.....

The time is coming when they that are killing you will be thinking they are doing GOD service......obviously the JEWS thought they were doing GOD service by killing the apostles and JESUS......and even today ISLAM believes it is doing GOD service when it kills the infidels........just thinking out loud!
When I see changes like the one below, I see it as a purposeful change to make Daniel 9 read as the antichrist rather than Christ and a dispensational end times.

Daniel 9:27King James Version (KJV)

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27New American Standard Bible (NASB)

27 And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of [a]abominations will come one who [b]makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who [c]makes desolate.”
 

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The last article I read about the rebuilding of the temple was that they were considering letting the dome of rock or the mosque (have forgotten which) stand, and build a temple beside this place, along with some kind of Christian Church.
I don't think that is going to happen as the temple must be built on the site that the Dome of the Rock sits on. The Dome of the Rock must be removed.
 
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When I see changes like the one below, I see it as a purposeful change to make Daniel 9 read as the antichrist rather than Christ and a dispensational end times.

Daniel 9:27King James Version (KJV)

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27New American Standard Bible (NASB)

27 And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of [a]abominations will come one who [b]makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who [c]makes desolate.”
I view it as Christ and as you know, I personally believe that the first 1185 days of the 70th week were fulfilled during the ministry of Jesus unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, because they rejected Christ they will endure the last 1335 days (Daniel 12) of the 70th week.
 
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The last article I read about the rebuilding of the temple was that they were considering letting the dome of rock or the mosque (have forgotten which) stand, and build a temple beside this place, along with some kind of Christian Church.
I watched an interesting video at the request of a Jewish friend....he believes that the Temple actually sat lower than where the Dome of the Rock is...as there is a spring there and he and the video point out that they needed a water source to clean all of the blood up with, and fill the laver etc.....and that near the spring would have been a more logical choice....

Not saying I believe this...Just throwing it out there..
 

stonesoffire

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I searched for that article but so far haven't found it.
 
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I would not hold my breath waiting for the Jews to build a Temple of God, something like that could only happen if God Himself wanted it to happen. Trying to build a Temple to offer animal sacrifices would be the ultimate rejection of Jesus as the Messiah, hardly think that God would back that one. About the Antichrist, the Islamic religion seems to be taking over the world, so maybe the Antichrist could be Islamic(I really don't know).
 

stonesoffire

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I don't think that is going to happen as the temple must be built on the site that the Dome of the Rock sits on. The Dome of the Rock must be removed.
That's what I just read while I was searching tourist. Apparently there are conflicting views, because the article I'm talking about said what d controversal said...but not with the particulars he preents. Just that it was not the original site of the temple.

I don't know. Just chatting...not debating.

sorry d...didn't mean to call you controversial. lol
 
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That's what I just read while I was searching tourist. Apparently there are conflicting views, because the article I'm talking about said what d controversal said...but not with the particulars he preents. Just that it was not the original site of the temple.

I don't know. Just chatting...not debating.

sorry d...didn't mean to call you controversial. lol
No need to apologize ....I don't mind being referenced if it is in context and not embellished ;)
 
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I view it as Christ and as you know, I personally believe that the first 1185 days of the 70th week were fulfilled during the ministry of Jesus unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, because they rejected Christ they will endure the last 1335 days (Daniel 12) of the 70th week.
Yes but the point I'm making is that the bible was changed to favor the rebuilt temple view. In the same way history is being manipulated to favor the same view. I'm assuming spiritual forces are behind both.
 

Ahwatukee

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I would not hold my breath waiting for the Jews to build a Temple of God, something like that could only happen if God Himself wanted it to happen. Trying to build a Temple to offer animal sacrifices would be the ultimate rejection of Jesus as the Messiah, hardly think that God would back that one. About the Antichrist, the Islamic religion seems to be taking over the world, so maybe the Antichrist could be Islamic(I really don't know).
And it will happen according to God's will and that because it involves the fulfillment of the 70th seven. What you are not understanding is that God has been building his church. Once the church has been completed, the Lord will appear and gather His church from the earth. Following that, God will pick up where He left off with Israel, under the same circumstances, with a temple and sacrifices and will bring the decree of seventy sevens to their fulfillment.

It is by the emerging of that coming ruler that will allow Israel to build their temple on the temple mount, appeasing both Islam and Israel.
 
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Yes but the point I'm making is that the bible was changed to favor the rebuilt temple view. In the same way history is being manipulated to favor the same view. I'm assuming spiritual forces are behind both.
I see what your saying, but a careful read of both verses you cite seem to say the same thing........I really see no difference in what is said....preachers do this all the time....will read a verse, make the sense known and explain it in terms that make sense....you really think they say different things?

and for the overspreading of abominations-->on the wing of [a]abominations
he shall make it desolate-->will come one who [b]makes desolate
even until the consummation-->even until a complete destruction
and that determined-->one that is decreed
shall be poured upon the desolate-->is poured out on the one who [c]makes desolate.”


Daniel 9:27King James Version (KJV)

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27New American Standard Bible (NASB)

27 And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of [a]abominations will come one who [b]makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who [c]makes desolate.”
 
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I see what your saying, but a careful read of both verses you cite seem to say the same thing........I really see no difference in what is said....preachers do this all the time....will read a verse, make the sense known and explain it in terms that make sense....you really think they say different things?

and for the overspreading of abominations-->on the wing of [a]abominations
he shall make it desolate-->will come one who [b]makes desolate
even until the consummation-->even until a complete destruction
and that determined-->one that is decreed
shall be poured upon the desolate-->is poured out on the one who [c]makes desolate.”


Daniel 9:27King James Version (KJV)

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Daniel 9:27New American Standard Bible (NASB)

27 And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of [a]abominations will come one who [b]makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who [c]makes desolate.”
I'm talking about MAKE a firm covenant verses CONFIRM an existing covenant.
 
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I'm talking about MAKE a firm covenant verses CONFIRM an existing covenant.
Yeah did not see that....what Hebrew word does confirm come from and what does it mean in Hebrew?